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 Post subject: Re: Speaking of Tequila Cowboy
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:02 pm 
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COR-TEN wrote:
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You're just imposing your morality/ philosophy on others. The same as victim shaming/ blaming.


I knew you'd be dumb enough to play the victim shaming card.

I wish I could have bet on it.
And you're dumb, stupid, and naive enough to think you have the moral authority.

Cheers. Have a nice day.


No, I have enough self awareness to realize that if I'm famous and not very well liked, I shouldn't be going to a place like Tequila Cowboy and assume nothing is going to happen.

That's dumb, stupid, and naive.


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 Post subject: Re: Speaking of Tequila Cowboy
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:15 pm 
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COR-TEN wrote:
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You're just imposing your morality/ philosophy on others. The same as victim shaming/ blaming.


Putting yourself in a dumb situation is victim shaming?

Then we've ALL been guilty of it towards Tomlin and these coaches
Dumb situation is up for debate. Maybe he could have gone the the Fox Chapel Golf Club and had an altercation as well. In which case nobody would have made a big deal of it?

People here are basically making moral judgements on where he spends his off time. Tell me you wouldn't be pissed if people judged you where you went. Within reason. A bar is a bar is a bar. It wasn't a whore house, a meth bar, or under surveillance by the police. It was across the fucking street from where he works, ffs. BR went to a bar as a 20 something year old, and was told he shouldn't have been there either. Because you know, you need to castrate yourself if you're a QB for the steelers and act like a fucking altar boy and be celibate until you're 35.


There is so much bullshit in this post. It's just dripping in it.


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 Post subject: Re: Speaking of Tequila Cowboy
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:19 pm 
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I’ve been to this bar...and um, well, it sucked.

Can we just all agree there seems to be something very OFF with Toddrick Haley? Wiretapping, dead rats in salads, swinging ALLEGATIONS, that gif of him burping on the sidelines while that chick deep throats a polish...and breaking his pelvis on NYE after a “situation” at the Tequila Cowboy?

Perch has been saying it for a long time and I’ve agreed. The dude is just plain odd.


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 Post subject: Re: Speaking of Tequila Cowboy
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:25 pm 
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I’ve been to this bar...and um, well, it sucked.

Can we just all agree there seems to be something very OFF with Toddrick Haley? Wiretapping, dead rats in salads, swinging ALLEGATIONS, that gif of him burping on the sidelines while that chick deep throats a polish...and breaking his pelvis on NYE after a “situation” at the Tequila Cowboy?

Perch has been saying it for a long time and I’ve agreed. The dude is just plain odd.
No doubt. But going to a bar across the street from where you work on NYE after a week of work is not odd and no where near irresponsible when it doesn't affect your job. According so some people, he should lock himself up in his house and never go out. Or at least clear it with the self imposed morality police if you decide to engage in normal life activities.

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 Post subject: Re: Speaking of Tequila Cowboy
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:28 pm 
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COR-TEN wrote:
Orangesteel wrote:
I’ve been to this bar...and um, well, it sucked.

Can we just all agree there seems to be something very OFF with Toddrick Haley? Wiretapping, dead rats in salads, swinging ALLEGATIONS, that gif of him burping on the sidelines while that chick deep throats a polish...and breaking his pelvis on NYE after a “situation” at the Tequila Cowboy?

Perch has been saying it for a long time and I’ve agreed. The dude is just plain odd.
No doubt. But going to a bar across the street from where you work on NYE after a week of work is not odd and no where near irresponsible when it doesn't affect your job. According so some people, he should lock himself up in his house and never go out. Or at least clear it with the self imposed morality police if you decide to engage with normal life activities.


It's not odd for a dude who works in a cubicle 9-5.

It is bad judgement for a guy who is almost universally hated by an entire city. The fact that you can't differentiate between the two is alarming, to say the least.


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 Post subject: Re: Speaking of Tequila Cowboy
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Louis Lipps Service wrote:
COR-TEN wrote:
Orangesteel wrote:
I’ve been to this bar...and um, well, it sucked.

Can we just all agree there seems to be something very OFF with Toddrick Haley? Wiretapping, dead rats in salads, swinging ALLEGATIONS, that gif of him burping on the sidelines while that chick deep throats a polish...and breaking his pelvis on NYE after a “situation” at the Tequila Cowboy?

Perch has been saying it for a long time and I’ve agreed. The dude is just plain odd.
No doubt. But going to a bar across the street from where you work on NYE after a week of work is not odd and no where near irresponsible when it doesn't affect your job. According so some people, he should lock himself up in his house and never go out. Or at least clear it with the self imposed morality police if you decide to engage with normal life activities.


It's not odd for a dude who works in a cubicle 9-5.

It is bad judgement for a guy who is almost universally hated by an entire city. The fact that you can't differentiate between the two is alarming, to say the least.
I challenge you to apply that same metric to everybody else. Famous and/ or not.

And can you please stop with the ad hominem? It's like you can't have a normal conversation or debate with someone without insulting them to make a point.

We simply disagree, but I'm not calling you dumb, or am alarmed at your stupid, illogical, sanctimonious position.

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 Post subject: Re: Speaking of Tequila Cowboy
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COR-TEN wrote:
Donnie Brasco wrote:
COR-TEN wrote:
You're just imposing your morality/ philosophy on others. The same as victim shaming/ blaming.


Putting yourself in a dumb situation is victim shaming?

Then we've ALL been guilty of it towards Tomlin and these coaches
Dumb situation is up for debate. Maybe he could have gone the the Fox Chapel Golf Club and had an altercation as well. In which case nobody would have made a big deal of it?

People here are basically making moral judgements on where he spends his off time. Tell me you wouldn't be pissed if people judged you where you went. Within reason. A bar is a bar is a bar. It wasn't a whore house, a meth bar, or under surveillance by the police. It was across the fucking street from where he works, ffs. BR went to a bar as a 20 something year old, and was told he shouldn't have been there either. Because you know, you need to castrate yourself if you're a QB for the steelers and act like a fucking altar boy and be celibate until you're 35.


Actually i wouuld have and still do think it's perfectly normal for the players to be out drinking it up wherever on the weekends. especially young single guys. Who wouldn't?!

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 Post subject: Re: Speaking of Tequila Cowboy
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COR-TEN wrote:

I challenge you to apply that same metric to everybody else. Famous and/ or not.

And can you please stop with the ad hominem? It's like you can't have a normal conversation or debate with someone without insulting them to make a point.

We simply disagree, but I'm not calling you dumb, or am alarmed at your stupid, illogical, sanctimonious position.


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And you're dumb, stupid, and naive enough to think you have the moral authority.


Try again.

And apply what metric to everyone else? I agree famous people should be allowed to go where they want, but I also think it's terribly bad judgement for them to assume they can go to certain and not expect to be treated differently. That's not how the world works. And when you're in a position where so many others rely on you, then it is your responsibility to use good judgement.


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 Post subject: Re: Speaking of Tequila Cowboy
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Louis Lipps Service wrote:
COR-TEN wrote:

I challenge you to apply that same metric to everybody else. Famous and/ or not.

And can you please stop with the ad hominem? It's like you can't have a normal conversation or debate with someone without insulting them to make a point.

We simply disagree, but I'm not calling you dumb, or am alarmed at your stupid, illogical, sanctimonious position.


COR-TEN wrote:
And you're dumb, stupid, and naive enough to think you have the moral authority.


Try again.

And apply what metric to everyone else? I agree famous people should be allowed to go where they want, but I also think it's terribly bad judgement for them to assume they can go to certain and not expect to be treated differently. That's not how the world works. And when you're in a position where so many others rely on you, then it is your responsibility to use good judgement.
Unfortunately, I responded to you insulting me first. Mea Culpa. But it's telling that you are more interested in proving me wrong than winning the argument.

But the rest? You have failed to prove that anything he did adversely affected anything. So you're still on the losing end.

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 Post subject: Re: Speaking of Tequila Cowboy
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Orangesteel wrote:
I’ve been to this bar...and um, well, it sucked.

Can we just all agree there seems to be something very OFF with Toddrick Haley? Wiretapping, dead rats in salads, swinging ALLEGATIONS, that gif of him burping on the sidelines while that chick deep throats a polish...and breaking his pelvis on NYE after a “situation” at the Tequila Cowboy?

Perch has been saying it for a long time and I’ve agreed. The dude is just plain odd.
No doubt. But going to a bar across the street from where you work on NYE after a week of work is not odd and no where near irresponsible when it doesn't affect your job. According so some people, he should lock himself up in his house and never go out. Or at least clear it with the self imposed morality police if you decide to engage in normal life activities.

My office building literally shares a wall with the most college-y of college bars in town. They have $1 Coors Light bottles on Friday nights and I can guarantee you will see every letter of the Greek alphabet if you go there on a weekend night. If you're over the age of 25 and step foot in there, anyone in town will assume you are either a creeper going after college girls, or a sad man trying to relive your college days.

We judge people based on their actions all the time, and we should. It's not the fact that he went to a bar near his job; it's that he's a 50 year old man who's going to a bar clearly targeting people half his age when there are plenty of other options in the vicinity (Bar Louie, Southern Tier, Rivertowne, Bettis', etc.). That's odd, no matter how you want to slice it. Now, mix that with his past behavior, follow it up with his known issues with Ben, and it really looks like Todd is an immature douche who has no business coaching in the NFL.

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