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..the Steelers pick (According to Mel Kiper)

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Rashaan Evans, ILB, Alabama

The big looming question for the Steelers is Ryan Shazier's future, and no one knows if he'll play again. Even if he returns, though, the Steelers need depth at linebacker. Evans is versatile enough to play inside or outside, and he had 15 career sacks at Alabama, where he often played on the edge and blitzed. He is a perfect fit in the middle of a modern-day defense -- he can play every down.

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 Post subject: Re: With the 28th Pick in the NFL Draft...
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I want Mike Mitchell gone and we have just as big of a need at safety.

I don't want us to just force the issue at ILB and go blindly into the draft and just be hellbent on selecting the best remaining ILB in a hurry to replace Shazier. Last draft you had Hassan Reddick, Jarrad Davis and Reuben Foster all go off the board by pick 31. Who is to say that there is not a similar run on ILB types and that by the time our 28th pick comes up we are looking at taking maybe the 4th or 5th best prospect. The difference between William Jackson the 3rd and Artie Burns is turning out to be huge. Jackson looks to have a really bright future and Burns is already facing a crossroads in his career, is he a bust in the making, or another disappointment like a Ziggy Hood or Jarvis Jones? Burns was the 5th CB taken that draft.

If there is a run on players at other positions, maybe we can get the 2nd or 3rd rated safety, that to me would be a safer bet. Go with a safety in round 1 and then in round 2 go for an ILB.

My wish list?

1st round, S, Justin Reid, Stanford, an all around safety who can do well against the run and in coverage. Has hands for INTs, had 5 INTs in 2017, his older brother is Eric Reid of the 49ers. I love the fact that it seems like he has the same thing going for him that TJ Watt enjoyed, being that he had an older brother in the NFL who has helped him polish his game. I feel like he (Justin) could come in and start as a rookie and give us a tremendous improvement over Mitchell.

2nd round ILB/OLB Darius Leonard, South Carolina State. Javon Hargrave was the MEAC defensive player of the year for two straight years, and then we drafted him. Leonard took up Hargrave's mantle and won the MEAC defensive player of the year award the past two years. Yeah, the level of competition might scare some people but not me, I feel like he will be there at the end of round 2, maybe they look to trade up some to insure that they get him, ala, Chad Brown, Kendrell Bell. He has enough size and speed and athleticism to do well inside, I feel like he too could be a rookie starter and do really well.

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I don't know who the Steelers will take, but they need to strike gold with this draft.

The 2015 draft is already looking like a disaster, with Dupree having one foot out the door and no one else from the first four rounds still on the time. 2016 pick Burns is looking iffy. Watt showed promise- let's hope he can keep it up.


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 Post subject: Re: With the 28th Pick in the NFL Draft...
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I want Mike Mitchell gone and we have just as big of a need at safety.

I don't want us to just force the issue at ILB and go blindly into the draft and just be hellbent on selecting the best remaining ILB in a hurry to replace Shazier. Last draft you had Hassan Reddick, Jarrad Davis and Reuben Foster all go off the board by pick 31. Who is to say that there is not a similar run on ILB types and that by the time our 28th pick comes up we are looking at taking maybe the 4th or 5th best prospect. The difference between William Jackson the 3rd and Artie Burns is turning out to be huge. Jackson looks to have a really bright future and Burns is already facing a crossroads in his career, is he a bust in the making, or another disappointment like a Ziggy Hood or Jarvis Jones? Burns was the 5th CB taken that draft.

If there is a run on players at other positions, maybe we can get the 2nd or 3rd rated safety, that to me would be a safer bet. Go with a safety in round 1 and then in round 2 go for an ILB.

My wish list?

1st round, S, Justin Reid, Stanford, an all around safety who can do well against the run and in coverage. Has hands for INTs, had 5 INTs in 2017, his older brother is Eric Reid of the 49ers. I love the fact that it seems like he has the same thing going for him that TJ Watt enjoyed, being that he had an older brother in the NFL who has helped him polish his game. I feel like he (Justin) could come in and start as a rookie and give us a tremendous improvement over Mitchell.

2nd round ILB/OLB Darius Leonard, South Carolina State. Javon Hargrave was the MEAC defensive player of the year for two straight years, and then we drafted him. Leonard took up Hargrave's mantle and won the MEAC defensive player of the year award the past two years. Yeah, the level of competition might scare some people but not me, I feel like he will be there at the end of round 2, maybe they look to trade up some to insure that they get him, ala, Chad Brown, Kendrell Bell. He has enough size and speed and athleticism to do well inside, I feel like he too could be a rookie starter and do really well.




Reid looks like a good safety but i doubt the Steelers will be interested given his brother is a social injustice kneeler. Anyway I like the idea of a 1sr round safety or pass rusher if a good one falls and then perhaps in round maybe someone like ILB Leighton Vander Esche. Realistically though,I suspect Vander Esche will go in the 1st rnd tho and id be more than ok going with him, by all accounts and by looking at some film of him, the kid has unreal instincts, is all over the ball and is a tackling machine. If by some miracle Shazier came back, you'd go from the worst ILB duo to the very best.


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 Post subject: Re: With the 28th Pick in the NFL Draft...
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Colbert has never drafted a player from Alabama.

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 Post subject: Re: With the 28th Pick in the NFL Draft...
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Scunge wrote:
I want Mike Mitchell gone and we have just as big of a need at safety.

I don't want us to just force the issue at ILB and go blindly into the draft and just be hellbent on selecting the best remaining ILB in a hurry to replace Shazier. Last draft you had Hassan Reddick, Jarrad Davis and Reuben Foster all go off the board by pick 31. Who is to say that there is not a similar run on ILB types and that by the time our 28th pick comes up we are looking at taking maybe the 4th or 5th best prospect. The difference between William Jackson the 3rd and Artie Burns is turning out to be huge. Jackson looks to have a really bright future and Burns is already facing a crossroads in his career, is he a bust in the making, or another disappointment like a Ziggy Hood or Jarvis Jones? Burns was the 5th CB taken that draft.

If there is a run on players at other positions, maybe we can get the 2nd or 3rd rated safety, that to me would be a safer bet. Go with a safety in round 1 and then in round 2 go for an ILB.

My wish list?

1st round, S, Justin Reid, Stanford, an all around safety who can do well against the run and in coverage. Has hands for INTs, had 5 INTs in 2017, his older brother is Eric Reid of the 49ers. I love the fact that it seems like he has the same thing going for him that TJ Watt enjoyed, being that he had an older brother in the NFL who has helped him polish his game. I feel like he (Justin) could come in and start as a rookie and give us a tremendous improvement over Mitchell.

2nd round ILB/OLB Darius Leonard, South Carolina State. Javon Hargrave was the MEAC defensive player of the year for two straight years, and then we drafted him. Leonard took up Hargrave's mantle and won the MEAC defensive player of the year award the past two years. Yeah, the level of competition might scare some people but not me, I feel like he will be there at the end of round 2, maybe they look to trade up some to insure that they get him, ala, Chad Brown, Kendrell Bell. He has enough size and speed and athleticism to do well inside, I feel like he too could be a rookie starter and do really well.


Hargrave sucked dick this year.

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 Post subject: Re: With the 28th Pick in the NFL Draft...
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Scunge wrote:
I want Mike Mitchell gone and we have just as big of a need at safety.

I don't want us to just force the issue at ILB and go blindly into the draft and just be hellbent on selecting the best remaining ILB in a hurry to replace Shazier. Last draft you had Hassan Reddick, Jarrad Davis and Reuben Foster all go off the board by pick 31. Who is to say that there is not a similar run on ILB types and that by the time our 28th pick comes up we are looking at taking maybe the 4th or 5th best prospect. The difference between William Jackson the 3rd and Artie Burns is turning out to be huge. Jackson looks to have a really bright future and Burns is already facing a crossroads in his career, is he a bust in the making, or another disappointment like a Ziggy Hood or Jarvis Jones? Burns was the 5th CB taken that draft.

If there is a run on players at other positions, maybe we can get the 2nd or 3rd rated safety, that to me would be a safer bet. Go with a safety in round 1 and then in round 2 go for an ILB.

My wish list?

1st round, S, Justin Reid, Stanford, an all around safety who can do well against the run and in coverage. Has hands for INTs, had 5 INTs in 2017, his older brother is Eric Reid of the 49ers. I love the fact that it seems like he has the same thing going for him that TJ Watt enjoyed, being that he had an older brother in the NFL who has helped him polish his game. I feel like he (Justin) could come in and start as a rookie and give us a tremendous improvement over Mitchell.

2nd round ILB/OLB Darius Leonard, South Carolina State. Javon Hargrave was the MEAC defensive player of the year for two straight years, and then we drafted him. Leonard took up Hargrave's mantle and won the MEAC defensive player of the year award the past two years. Yeah, the level of competition might scare some people but not me, I feel like he will be there at the end of round 2, maybe they look to trade up some to insure that they get him, ala, Chad Brown, Kendrell Bell. He has enough size and speed and athleticism to do well inside, I feel like he too could be a rookie starter and do really well.


Hargrave sucked dick this year.




Well ya it takes about a year for Coach Mitchell to work any playmaking ability OUT of his DLmen, only titty fighting allowed here.


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 Post subject: Re: With the 28th Pick in the NFL Draft...
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..the Steelers pick (According to Mel Kiper)

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28. Pittsburgh Steelers
Rashaan Evans, ILB, Alabama

The big looming question for the Steelers is Ryan Shazier's future, and no one knows if he'll play again. Even if he returns, though, the Steelers need depth at linebacker. Evans is versatile enough to play inside or outside, and he had 15 career sacks at Alabama, where he often played on the edge and blitzed. He is a perfect fit in the middle of a modern-day defense -- he can play every down.

Oh goody...another one of those overrated, maxed out Alabama defenders... :roll:

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Javon Hargrave


I will be shocked if he is on the roster come Sept.

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3 best words to describe Hargraves 2017 season

Justin Reid is blah...He can't carry his brothers shit stained jock strap. Slow, struggles to track the ball, poor tackler. I would pass as a UDFA...Not the type of player I would want on my roster

Darius Leonard will be a decent special teams player maybe...He really sucks in space. Huge Fish in a very small pond. 6-2 230 he will run around a 4.7 40. .Best fit is CFL. I think he is an inferior prospect to Tyler M...I watched him play live in person 10-12 times

Anyone who is thrilled with anything TJ Watt showed this year was watching a different player than me...Hopefully he can play inside I don't like what I saw outside

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fortythree wrote:
Colbert has never drafted a player from Alabama.


Yeah, but he tried to bring in one last year in Hightower.
Obviously, they liked him a lot during that draft.

The fact that an Alabama guy has not been drafted is pure coincidence.


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I would be all over Evans at 1.28.

1. Evans ILB
2. Elliott FS
3. Okoronkwo OLB

We are going to have to obtain a FS and ILB in FA as well. Mitchell has to be cut.
That leaves us with Davis and Golden...unless we try Allen or Sutton at FS.
At ILB, we basically have Williams and Matekavich.


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steelheels wrote:
fortythree wrote:
Colbert has never drafted a player from Alabama.


Yeah, but he tried to bring in one last year in Hightower.
Obviously, they liked him a lot during that draft.

The fact that an Alabama guy has not been drafted is pure coincidence.


Oh for sure. I wasn't saying it wouldn't happen because of that. I was just pointing that out.

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If you ask me the biggest issue with TJ Watt moving forward is Coach Porter., and DC Butler, hope JJ teaches him well.


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Javon Hargrave


I will be shocked if he is on the roster come Sept.

Lazy
Soft
pathetic

3 best words to describe Hargraves 2017 season

Justin Reid is blah...He can't carry his brothers shit stained jock strap. Slow, struggles to track the ball, poor tackler. I would pass as a UDFA...Not the type of player I would want on my roster

Darius Leonard will be a decent special teams player maybe...He really sucks in space. Huge Fish in a very small pond. 6-2 230 he will run around a 4.7 40. .Best fit is CFL. I think he is an inferior prospect to Tyler M...I watched him play live in person 10-12 times

Anyone who is thrilled with anything TJ Watt showed this year was watching a different player than me...Hopefully he can play inside I don't like what I saw outside

I think Watt was OUTSTANDING in coverage. If I were running the show on the north side, I'd be thinking about transitioning him to ILB, moving Dupree to right side and simplifying his job, drafting a hybrid player LB who can do multiple things for you on 3rd down. I mean, maybe that's the next logical step== you have very versatile LBs who are not great pass rushers, then use their versatility as an advantage.

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If you ask me the biggest issue with TJ Watt moving forward is Coach Porter., and DC Butler, hope JJ teaches him well.

you can add Olsavsky to that list

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GreekSteel wrote:
If you ask me the biggest issue with TJ Watt moving forward is Coach Porter., and DC Butler, hope JJ teaches him well.

you can add Olsavsky to that list




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I think anybody who thinks Ryan Shazier will play in 2018 is delusional.

ILB is crucial, as is safety. Spence was attacked right and left against Jax, and it's not like sitting on the sofa did that to him. That's how he played when he was with the steelers a couple of years ago. But the issue with safety is that he has to be football smart with great instincts. Who's going to keep the defensive backfield in position? A rookie? Will Sean Davis be the guy?

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Not even remotely a draftnik...horrible at forecasting college players to NFL play.

What's the projection of that LB from Georgia? Roquan Smith? Didn't watch much college football but seemed like he was always making plays when I turned on a Georgia game.


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Not even remotely a draftnik...horrible at forecasting college players to NFL play.

What's the projection of that LB from Georgia? Roquan Smith? Didn't watch much college football but seemed like he was always making plays when I turned on a Georgia game.

Probably long gone when the Steelers sprint to the podium.

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Miter Saw wrote:
Not even remotely a draftnik...horrible at forecasting college players to NFL play.

What's the projection of that LB from Georgia? Roquan Smith? Didn't watch much college football but seemed like he was always making plays when I turned on a Georgia game.




ya probably a top 10 guy


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This coaching staff wouldn’t do something as bold as move TJ inside.

And I’ll start getting excited about the draft again when the guys they do select start playing defense like a Pittsburgh Steeler plays defense.

They draft dumb pussies.


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This coaching staff wouldn’t do something as bold as move TJ inside.

And I’ll start getting excited about the draft again when the guys they do select start playing defense like a Pittsburgh Steeler plays defense.

They draft dumb pussies.




i honestly think the evidence is mounting that our coaching staff in fact turns them into dumb pussies


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