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 Post subject: Re: It's official -- Fichtner named OC
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:42 am 
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I think it's a combination jeems. I think the position staff are less than ideal. I also think that players are soft. I think they believe they don't have to practice wrapping up tackling since they don't have traditional practices anymore. It's not a staple in practices. Today's practices are walkthroughs compared to what they were in the past. That's why tackling is atrocious and results in more injuries. Players are throwing themselves at other players instead of practicing the very fundamental wrap up tackle technique. Complacency.

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 Post subject: Re: It's official -- Fichtner named OC
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:51 am 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
I think it's a combination jeems. I think the position staff are less than ideal. I also think that players are soft. I think they believe they don't have to practice wrapping up tackling since they don't have traditional practices anymore. It's not a staple in practices. Today's practices are walkthroughs compared to what they were in the past. That's why tackling is atrocious and results in more injuries. Players are throwing themselves at other players instead of practicing the very fundamental wrap up tackle technique. Complacency.


The worst part is apparently the Steelers had at least three practices in pads leading up to the game, from what I heard reported.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:55 am 
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I’m really glad Todd Haley is gone but no changes on the defensive staff is unconscionable.

Name me one player either Porter or Lake have developed into something better than they were when they came into the league.

How is it that several WEEKS after Shazier went down the Steelers were STILL struggling with communication on defense? Is Butler’s defense really that hard for the players to grasp?

I mean...blame the lack of skill all you want, but many of the defensive lapses I saw this year were MENTAL breakdowns. That’s why I thought the defense might not be all that bad...clean up the mistakes, and it could at least be passable, which is all we really needed.

But the mistakes were never cleaned up...and that has to be on the coaches.

PS I will caveat that with saying I know the Jags beat the shit out of the Steelers’ front seven...


Someone posted about this team having low football IQ in the LB corp and secondary. Seems that they went all the way athletic and speed w/ limited brains. I believe this is why Shazier was such an asset. Football smart and athletic and he helped cover a multitude of ineptitude out on the field.


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 Post subject: Re: It's official -- Fichtner named OC
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Jeemie wrote:
I’m really glad Todd Haley is gone but no changes on the defensive staff is unconscionable.

Name me one player either Porter or Lake have developed into something better than they were when they came into the league.

How is it that several WEEKS after Shazier went down the Steelers were STILL struggling with communication on defense? Is Butler’s defense really that hard for the players to grasp?

I mean...blame the lack of skill all you want, but many of the defensive lapses I saw this year were MENTAL breakdowns. That’s why I thought the defense might not be all that bad...clean up the mistakes, and it could at least be passable, which is all we really needed.

But the mistakes were never cleaned up...and that has to be on the coaches.

PS I will caveat that with saying I know the Jags beat the shit out of the Steelers’ front seven...




Why didnt Tomlin fire anyone of the defensive side of the ball??? Because get this he apperently made most of the calls on defense this season, this is his defense, his players, his development of players, his calls...all of it..its all on Tomlin.


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 Post subject: Re: It's official -- Fichtner named OC
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Bouchette: There was some surprise no coaching change was forthcoming on defense, but if that were to occur, Tomlin might have to start with himself. He called many of the defensive plays from the sideline this season. He also took charge of many of the secondary meetings and those with the entire defense.


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I'm excited to see what Fichtner can do.

I hope Tomlin stays out of the offense. This concerns me at this point in Tomlin's career.


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 Post subject: Re: It's official -- Fichtner named OC
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:03 pm 
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Jeemie wrote:
Steelafan77 wrote:
I think it's a combination jeems. I think the position staff are less than ideal. I also think that players are soft. I think they believe they don't have to practice wrapping up tackling since they don't have traditional practices anymore. It's not a staple in practices. Today's practices are walkthroughs compared to what they were in the past. That's why tackling is atrocious and results in more injuries. Players are throwing themselves at other players instead of practicing the very fundamental wrap up tackle technique. Complacency.


The worst part is apparently the Steelers had at least three practices in pads leading up to the game, from what I heard reported.


I think that's exactly why I was so hopeful (confident?) about this game. Tomlin took the reasonable approach of having his team practice actual hitting for an offense that is run heavy.

Did his players on D fail him? Yup surely, but Tomlin didn't help mitigate the disaster and that was his failure on Sunday


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 Post subject: Re: It's official -- Fichtner named OC
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Bouchette: There was some surprise no coaching change was forthcoming on defense, but if that were to occur, Tomlin might have to start with himself. He called many of the defensive plays from the sideline this season. He also took charge of many of the secondary meetings and those with the entire defense.


That's pretty much Exhibit 1 for Tomlin's termination

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 Post subject: Re: It's official -- Fichtner named OC
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Havoc wrote:
I'm excited to see what Fichtner can do.

I hope Tomlin stays out of the offense. This concerns me at this point in Tomlin's career.


The offense will barely change.

I think Haley was fired primarily bc Tomlin disliked him.

What I hope is that Fichtner will fix the red zone issues and not call head scratching plays.

Maybe run a QB sneak now and then. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: It's official -- Fichtner named OC
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I'm starting to come around to player development and drafting being a bigger issue than playcalling on D. Their scheme was better and more complex this year compared to last... but it was undermined by LBs and CBs and Ss making MEs and DL getting overpowered at times.

In other words, I think it was more Jimmies and Joes on defense, and more coaching/playcalling on offense.

Of course, Tomlin and Colbert and scouts and assistant coaches to a degree all share blame for selecting the Jimmies and Joes. But some of those guys are quite young, especially as NFL players (Burns, Dupree, Watt, Hargrave, Davis, even Vince and whomever they played at ILB).

I want to see a change at FS, I want to see an open competition at RDB with Burns challenged by Sutton. I want some reps on D with Brian Allen as the dime CB William Gay was playing. I want to see a concerted effort to improve NT, coverage ILB, Safety starter and depth, via both FA and draft. I think those would be the best coaching moves possible-- more important than the defensive structure or defensive plays called. A willingness to explore options instead of trotting out the same guys and expecting a different result.

And for god's sake, cut some dead weight that eats up cap space.

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