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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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RemoAZ wrote:
I'm waiting for Haley to blow a gasket and start talking shit about Tomlin. Maybe he can start enough drama to get Tomlin canned. Dreaming is free.


I don't know. The guy's mouth already ran him out of KC. He badmouths Ben, Tomlin or EMR he's not getting a highschool coaching job.

I think we'll have to wait a few years for him to know he's finished as a coach before he throws anyone under the bus.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Kodiak wrote:
RemoAZ wrote:
I'm waiting for Haley to blow a gasket and start talking shit about Tomlin. Maybe he can start enough drama to get Tomlin canned. Dreaming is free.


I don't know. The guy's mouth already ran him out of KC. He badmouths Ben, Tomlin or EMR he's not getting a highschool coaching job.

I think we'll have to wait a few years for him to know he's finished as a coach before he throws anyone under the bus.


Well he's lacked good judgement before in some of the shit he's said. There's already a small fire going. We just need someone to poor some rocket fuel on it.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Wonder what Ben thinks about the King of the Yinzers?


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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Suwanee88 wrote:
Wonder what Ben thinks about the King of the Yinzers?


They're pretty tight.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Haley being let go is not the only promblem. No changes on defense is a joke


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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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fortythree wrote:
Literally nothing to this.

I have more sources in the organization than Cowherd does.

You're saying the Ben-Tomlin relationship is good?


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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Lit, if you cared to come out of the clouds, it was discussed last night

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some good interviews from King and Bradshaw about it too

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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Kodiak wrote:
RemoAZ wrote:
I'm waiting for Haley to blow a gasket and start talking shit about Tomlin. Maybe he can start enough drama to get Tomlin canned. Dreaming is free.


I don't know. The guy's mouth already ran him out of KC. He badmouths Ben, Tomlin or EMR he's not getting a highschool coaching job.

I think we'll have to wait a few years for him to know he's finished as a coach before he throws anyone under the bus.


If the Jets don't hire him and he sits dry, you can bet your ass he will drop some bombs, looking like an ass while he spouts off

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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Because of Tomlin Ben hasn’t won shit in 10 years.
I’d say he’s miffed.

Every time that guy speaks I want to throw up.
Tomlin is like the guy in high school who everyone was afraid of because he would tell everyone how tough he is(unleash hell)then when he is approached he shits himself.


How sick of Tomlin’s cliches must Ben be?
Poor guy has heard them day in and day out for 10 years!!

Imagine Ben on Sunday.Scoring TD after TD only to see his sweet talking defensive guru head coach stare blankly as Blake Bortles raped his defense.


Tomlin is a complete fraud but he managed to sell a bridge to the Rooney’s.
So because they fell for it and since they love to boast about having 3 coaches in 100 years Steelers Nation suffers.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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SOCALSTEEL wrote:
Because of Tomlin Ben hasn’t won shit in 10 years.
I’d say he’s miffed.

Every time that guy speaks I want to throw up.
Tomlin is like the guy in high school who everyone was afraid of because he would tell everyone how tough he is(unleash hell)then when he is approached he shits himself.


How sick of Tomlin’s cliches must Ben be?
Poor guy has heard them day in and day out for 10 years!!

Imagine Ben on Sunday.Scoring TD after TD only to see his sweet talking defensive guru head coach stare blankly as Blake Bortles raped his defense.


Tomlin is a complete fraud but he managed to sell a bridge to the Rooney’s.
So because they fell for it and since they love to boast about having 3 coaches in 100 years Steelers Nation suffers.

Oh, we have another mind reader in the group who knows just what Ben is thinking. That's really cool, what number am I thinking of now?


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Poltargyst wrote:
That's really cool, what number am I thinking of now?


I'm guessing #2....because that's what most of your posts defending Tomlin smell like

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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Poltargyst wrote:
fortythree wrote:
Literally nothing to this.

I have more sources in the organization than Cowherd does.

You're saying the Ben-Tomlin relationship is good?


I don't know the details of their relationship. But I know Cowherd is full of shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Poltargyst wrote:
SOCALSTEEL wrote:
Because of Tomlin Ben hasn’t won shit in 10 years.
I’d say he’s miffed.

Every time that guy speaks I want to throw up.
Tomlin is like the guy in high school who everyone was afraid of because he would tell everyone how tough he is(unleash hell)then when he is approached he shits himself.


How sick of Tomlin’s cliches must Ben be?
Poor guy has heard them day in and day out for 10 years!!

Imagine Ben on Sunday.Scoring TD after TD only to see his sweet talking defensive guru head coach stare blankly as Blake Bortles raped his defense.


Tomlin is a complete fraud but he managed to sell a bridge to the Rooney’s.
So because they fell for it and since they love to boast about having 3 coaches in 100 years Steelers Nation suffers.

Oh, we have another mind reader in the group who knows just what Ben is thinking. That's really cool, what number am I thinking of now?


Yeah, I'm sure Tomlin's bullshit cliches sound just as fresh today, as when the dumb cocksucker first spewed them.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Obviously wrote:
Suwanee88 wrote:
Wonder what Ben thinks about the King of the Yinzers?


They're pretty tight.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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SOCALSTEEL wrote:
Because of Tomlin Ben hasn’t won shit in 10 years.
I’d say he’s miffed.

Every time that guy speaks I want to throw up.
Tomlin is like the guy in high school who everyone was afraid of because he would tell everyone how tough he is(unleash hell)then when he is approached he shits himself.


How sick of Tomlin’s cliches must Ben be?
Poor guy has heard them day in and day out for 10 years!!

Imagine Ben on Sunday.Scoring TD after TD only to see his sweet talking defensive guru head coach stare blankly as Blake Bortles raped his defense.


Tomlin is a complete fraud but he managed to sell a bridge to the Rooney’s.
So because they fell for it and since they love to boast about having 3 coaches in 100 years Steelers Nation suffers.

This...in a nutshell.

We are products of our environments. And, believe me, I have many years of daily, first hand working knowledge of Tomlin's environment. Hell, I have worked closely with some of his relatives, have been in the homes of the type of men and women that raised him. I know the culture and community about as well as someone can without living there.

I'm not here to say that Tomlin is incapable of growth; he's obviously done much better than most from his community. But, if I had to pick one player that Tomlin is more like than you'd think, I'd say Lev Bell (taking into account their age difference). Bell, while wanting to come across has somewhat intelligent and as someone that handles his business, is still very easy to see through and read what he is. Not as smart as he want's you to believe and has more hood in him that he tries to cover up; which makes him still continue to make mistakes most folks learn from already. My comments are not meant to be racist, so please don't interpret them that way. They are reality based. I've spent much of my time helping this community.

Tomlin is great at connecting with players on a personal level and even motivating them, but he's somewhat weak at directing them in an intelligent football IQ way. It's obvious from the in game decisions he makes and the mistakes his players make over and over again. Some players - most of the offense - are smart enough to overcome some of this, but for some on the defense, it's a different story.

I'm fine with Tomlin being the head coach, but only if the FO realizes he's nothing more than a showpiece/motivator (TB was kinda right in his cheerleader comments). Make him agree to them hiring someone to make (have the last word) high football IQ, in game decisions. Don't let him interfere with many of the game plans and play calls. Let Captain Cliché do what he does best and that's it. Otherwise, this team is fighting an uphill battle, imo. I do think Ben is a little fed up with it too. I know, I know...it won't happen....but it should.

I've been trying to tell people who Tomlin really is for years, but mostly stopped because it usually fell on deaf ears.

My two cents again, anyway....


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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Even Tomlin’s strongest defenders are finding it difficult to defend him anymore.

But come next season they’ll be back on the horse.


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Kodiak wrote:
Poltargyst wrote:
That's really cool, what number am I thinking of now?


I'm guessing #2....because that's what most of your posts defending Tomlin smell like

Hah!


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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Poltargyst wrote:
SOCALSTEEL wrote:
Because of Tomlin Ben hasn’t won shit in 10 years.
I’d say he’s miffed.

Every time that guy speaks I want to throw up.
Tomlin is like the guy in high school who everyone was afraid of because he would tell everyone how tough he is(unleash hell)then when he is approached he shits himself.


How sick of Tomlin’s cliches must Ben be?
Poor guy has heard them day in and day out for 10 years!!

Imagine Ben on Sunday.Scoring TD after TD only to see his sweet talking defensive guru head coach stare blankly as Blake Bortles raped his defense.


Tomlin is a complete fraud but he managed to sell a bridge to the Rooney’s.
So because they fell for it and since they love to boast about having 3 coaches in 100 years Steelers Nation suffers.

Oh, we have another mind reader in the group who knows just what Ben is thinking. That's really cool, what number am I thinking of now?


Yeah, I'm sure Tomlin's bullshit cliches sound just as fresh today, as when the dumb cocksucker first spewed them.

What I know is that POSTERS are tired of Tomlin's cliches. We don't know that BEN is tired of Tomlin's cliches.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Even Tomlin’s strongest defenders are finding it difficult to defend him anymore.

But come next season they’ll be back on the horse.





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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Ben won the Superbowl on a team with a #4 defense and a #1 defense.

Lots of guys can do this. Terry Bradshaw did. Trent Dilfer did. Brad Johnson did. Aaron Rodgers did.
Case Keenum might.

He lost a SB with a #2 defense.

I'm a Tomlin guy and if you want to get rid of him, you have no argument from me. He's run his course. He builds a team of superstars, not a superstar team.

But if you numb nuts think the answer is putting it all on Ben's shoulders...he can't do it. He isn't like Brees, he'll never sniff another SB. And that's been Tomlin's problem. He never built that killer D.

And before you whine about all this disrespecting Ben, Dan Marino is head and shoulders the best fucking QB I've ever seen. I mean seen, not read about or saw clips of from times before I was born.
Dan couldn't win shit because he never had a great defense. He barely had a fucking running game. Doesn't mean he isn't great. Most guys, no matter how talented, can't win without that defense.

Ben's one of those guys. His shoulders alone won't propel this team any farther than Tomlin.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben miffed at Tomlin, not just his ex-OC? Cowherd says y
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Even Tomlin’s strongest defenders are finding it difficult to defend him anymore.

But come next season they’ll be back on the horse.


I’m not so sure this will be the case. I’ve been a staunch Tomlin guy since day one. As supportive as any. But, not oblivious to his shortcomings nor fully accepting due to the fact Ive always felt he needed to show he could replicate his early success.

What he has displayed in the last two years (playoffs) along with the fact he’s making ZERO changes on the defensive side of the ball have shown his critics to be spot on.

I have less than zero faith he and the team progresses. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if this team regresses big time next year.


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Let’s pray for the nfc to score 90 pts on asslin in the pro bowl

Steelers staff has to be there Monday

The seat should be ablaze for him to burn up into ash by time he comes back, firing him would be simple :lol:

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Let’s pray for the nfc to score 90 pts on asslin in the pro bowl

Steelers staff has to be there Monday

The seat should be ablaze for him to burn up into ash by time he comes back, firing him would be simple :lol:


are you insinuating that how well the AFC does in the pro bowl could impact Mike Tomlins job? :lol:

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Let’s pray for the nfc to score 90 pts on asslin in the pro bowl

Steelers staff has to be there Monday

The seat should be ablaze for him to burn up into ash by time he comes back, firing him would be simple :lol:


are you insinuating that how well the AFC does in the pro bowl could impact Mike Tomlins job? :lol:


I don’t believe it would happen actually....would be funny

That plus NE losing might

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But if you numb nuts think the answer is putting it all on Ben's shoulders...he can't do it. He isn't like Brees, he'll never sniff another SB.


LOL, Stormy Daniels is your ex-gf. It all makes sense.

If Brees is so great, why does he have 1 less ring and 2 less SB's than Ben?

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