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 Post subject: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:42 pm 
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Opinions on the credibility of Steelers Depot aside, it is interesting to see this breakdown of where the defense failed at the LOS last week.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2018/01/wa ... scrimmage/

The things that jump out:

- Hargrave going down KILLED us. Walton was completely overmatched as the NT and we were screwed from the getgo (a far cry from the Hampton or even McClendon days)
- Spence sucks... we knew that.
- Dupree is pathetic. He is seriously stealing a paycheck at this point. Can't play the pass or the run.

You think of the "Golden triangles" we have fielded in the past (Steed, Kirkland, Brown/Holmes) or (Hampton, Farrior, Timmons), and we are so fucking far from that now. This film is such a god damn disgrace.
We really need to think about switching to a 4-3 and bringing on 3 or 4 more defensive linemen this offseason.

Tell Bell to take a walk and use the dollars to bring in the defensive horses we need. Draft some RBs (plural) to replace him.

RE - Heyward, High pick, Chickillo
NT - FA, Alualu
3tech - Hargrave, Midround pick, Walton
LE - Tuitt, FA
Will - Watt, Fort
Mike - FA, Williams
SAM - FA, Dupree

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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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So Walton was getting blown off the ball.

So what was the point of keeping McCullers, for who we jettisoned James Harrison?

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Jeemie wrote:
So Walton was getting blown off the ball.

So what was the point of keeping McCullers, for who we jettisoned James Harrison?


Seriously... And I thought Alualu had some NT chops. This whole defensive gameplan and performance just makes less and less sense the more the onion is peeled. I havent been this ashamed of a Steeler D in a long time.

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MeanJustinBarlow wrote:
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So Walton was getting blown off the ball.

So what was the point of keeping McCullers, for who we jettisoned James Harrison?


Seriously... And I thought Alualu had some NT chops. This whole defensive gameplan and performance just makes less and less sense the more the onion is peeled. I havent been this ashamed of a Steeler D in a long time.


Last time for me was when the Pats dropped a 55 burger on Tomlin/Lebeau's defense 2013 in Foxboro.

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Asslin, needs to be wiped

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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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THe one rugby scrum play Fournette had both feet lifted off the ground and was getting carried a couple yards down field.

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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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Jeemie wrote:
So Walton was getting blown off the ball.

So what was the point of keeping McCullers, for who we jettisoned James Harrison?


The point was to humiliate Harrison.


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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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ANOther mistake to cut him

Sending him home or a suspension takes him off th active roster for a week

Humble James then bring him back. Cut big dan

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W&M_Steeler wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
So Walton was getting blown off the ball.

So what was the point of keeping McCullers, for who we jettisoned James Harrison?


The point was to humiliate Harrison.


Smart move, humiliate one of the guys who was instrumental in you being able to call yourself a Super Bowl winning coach.

Cuntlin turns my stomach.

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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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It's funny that Tomlin had to resort to lying in his presser dedicated to explain cutting Harrison. He claimed that McCullers was the back-up NT, when clearly he wasn't. That speaks volumes.


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It's funny that Tomlin had to resort to lying in his presser dedicated to explain cutting Harrison. He claimed that McCullers was the back-up NT, when clearly he wasn't. That speaks volumes.


He's a part time liar, full time dumbfuck.

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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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Brady is compromised for Sunday and I’m getting angrier and angrier at this completely avoidable loss.

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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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W&M_Steeler wrote:
It's funny that Tomlin had to resort to lying in his presser dedicated to explain cutting Harrison. He claimed that McCullers was the back-up NT, when clearly he wasn't. That speaks volumes.


He led me to think that earlier when we leaned alalalu was

Liar Liar Asslin on Fire

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Jeemie wrote:
Brady is compromised for Sunday and I’m getting angrier and angrier at this completely avoidable loss.


I can't remember getting MORE frustrated as time went on after a playoff exit.

At this point the only thing making me feel better is telling myself the steelers would probably lose to Hoyer, making a loss to Pats even more painful.

I'd be surprised if Brady doesn't go. But this weekend has the possibility of seeing Hoyer, Bortles, Foles and Keenum as conf champ game qb's. And it's not even week 4 of preseason.


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Jeemie wrote:
Brady is compromised for Sunday and I’m getting angrier and angrier at this completely avoidable loss.


Tomlin is defensive guru.

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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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Miter Saw wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
Brady is compromised for Sunday and I’m getting angrier and angrier at this completely avoidable loss.


I can't remember getting MORE frustrated as time went on after a playoff exit.

At this point the only thing making me feel better is telling myself the steelers would probably lose to Hoyer, making a loss to Pats even more painful.

I'd be surprised if Brady doesn't go. But this weekend has the possibility of seeing Hoyer, Bortles, Foles and Keenum as conf champ game qb's. And it's not even week 4 of preseason.


If we’re angry...imagine how Ben feels.

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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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You know there are many people on this forum that are so down on Hargrave and are so quick to just blame him for the poor run defense. I just shake my head.

When I watched last Sunday's game I saw Walton play probably his poorest game of his young career. He had more snaps than Hargrave. Walton 27 snaps, Hargrave 23 snaps. When I saw many of the big runs, I saw Walton getting his ass handed to him, I saw Alualu getting dominated. Alualu had 17 snaps. Walton and Alualu combined for 44 snaps, almost twice as much as Hargrave.

Hargrave only played what was it, 45% of the snaps this season. When he was on the field the defense did do a better job against the run, he did his job, took on the double teams. Often when I watched teams have success against us Hargrave was on the sidelines, somebody else (Alualu, Walton) were subbed in or they were going with their sub package defenses and I saw teams have more ease running with the football.

I think Hargrave and Tuitt both had very rough seasons in terms of dealing with nagging injuries. And yeah, maybe Hargrave had something of a sophomore slump just like Burns and Davis too. But many are just flat out wrong calling Hargrave a bum and that we should move on from him. That is ridiculous.

Also, there is strength in numbers, never have liked the 3-4 defense, 5 big offensive linemen on 3 defensive linemen is probably always going to put you at a disadvantage. I make no bones about me wanting a 4-3. You have 4 defensive lineman and rotate them and it keeps them fresh and wears down the other team's offensive linemen.

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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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KC wrote:
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It's funny that Tomlin had to resort to lying in his presser dedicated to explain cutting Harrison. He claimed that McCullers was the back-up NT, when clearly he wasn't. That speaks volumes.


He's a part time liar, full time dumbfuck.


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W&M_Steeler wrote:
It's funny that Tomlin had to resort to lying in his presser dedicated to explain cutting Harrison. He claimed that McCullers was the back-up NT, when clearly he wasn't. That speaks volumes.


He's a part time liar, full time dumbfuck.


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Miter Saw wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
Brady is compromised for Sunday and I’m getting angrier and angrier at this completely avoidable loss.


I can't remember getting MORE frustrated as time went on after a playoff exit.


I am also getting more frustrated about this loss as the week wears on. I still can’t believe it happened.

I initially felt that one of Tomlin’s other playoff failures were worse like the Tebow loss or the the 1st Jags playoff loss. However, the more time goes on and the more information that comes out, the worse I feel about it. The fact that Haley got fired is nice, I guess. However, as long as Tomlin is HC, I have absolutely no belief that this team will ever win another Super Bowl, ever.

To have that feeling as a lifelong fan just sucks.


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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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BethlehemSteel wrote:
Asslin, needs to be wiped

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This is the stupidest fucking nickname I've ever seen on this board. That's not in defense of Tomlin, either. Its just dumb.

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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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Agreed...I really think we don’t want to be channeling Steel Mill.

Dude jumped the shark a decade and a half ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Film Breakdown of Run Defense
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Jeemie wrote:
Greed...I really think we don’t want to be channeling Steel Mill.

Dude jumped the shark a decade and a half ago.

Jumped the shark, or went fucking insane?

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Miter Saw wrote:

At this point the only thing making me feel better is telling myself the steelers would probably lose to Hoyer, making a loss to Pats even more painful.

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You got that right

Bortles ripped us for 45 AT HOME

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86n96 wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:
Asslin, needs to be wiped

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This is the stupidest fucking nickname I've ever seen on this board. That's not in defense of Tomlin, either. Its just dumb.


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