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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:25 am 
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Wasn't this thread title originally something to the effect of "introducing the new HC of the steelers, Mr nathaniel hackett"


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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:37 am 
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The headline should be “Going up against Bill Belichick turns you stupid”.

New England is the only team in the league that truly plays a 60 minute game.

Every other coach feels the pressure of that and wilts.

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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:17 pm 
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Miter Saw wrote:
Wasn't this thread title originally something to the effect of "introducing the new HC of the steelers, Mr nathaniel hackett"


It sure was.

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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:53 pm 
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The started turtling at the end of the first half. They had 55 seconds left and took a knee without even trying anything.

I know they were getting the ball to start the 2nd half but talk about living in your fears. The Pats only had one TO so the Jags could have at least tried a running play to see if the break something - if it doesn't work you let the clock run.


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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:01 pm 
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The started turtling at the end of the first half. They had 55 seconds left and took a knee without even trying anything.

I know they were getting the ball to start the 2nd half but talk about living in your fears. The Pats only had one TO so the Jags could have at least tried a running play to see if the break something - if it doesn't work you let the clock run.

Yup,

First three series were great balanced, mixed it up, fooled the Pats defense.
12 of 21 first and second down plays were pass plays.
8 passes and 6 runs on first down plays.

Then they started to Tomlin on their ( 4th ) possession middle of second quarter, 5 minutes left.
Run, Run Pass, Run, Run , pass.....punt.

Pats went down and scored.

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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:09 pm 
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Still Lit wrote:
Miter Saw wrote:
Wasn't this thread title originally something to the effect of "introducing the new HC of the steelers, Mr nathaniel hackett"


It sure was.


edited for WHOOPS :)

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Mr Nathaniel Hackett revealed his inner Haley in the 2nd half


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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:13 pm 
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So I guess the defense did it's job, even though they gave up 2 unanswered scores. Committed penalties that gave the pats goal to go, and then failed to line up quickly enough to stop the score. And they let amendola get that 3rd and 18, and let the pats win without gronk. They didn't get enough three and outs. If they had, Jags win. Right?

I thought the defense was always to blame for losses? At least that's what it's made out to be with the steelers loss to the Jags.

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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:17 pm 
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So I guess the defense did it's job, even though they gave up 2 unanswered scores. Committed penalties that gave the pats goal to go, and then failed to line up quickly enough to stop the score. And they let amendola get that 3rd and 18, and let the pats win without gronk. They didn't get enough three and outs. If they had, Jags win. Right?

I thought the defense was always to blame for losses? At least that's what it's made out to be with the steelers loss to the Jags.


Serious question.

Are you really primarily blaming Ben and co for failing to score 50 points?

My line was and will be this: when you put up 42 on the league's best D and lose, the offense is not the primary problem. That does not mean that the offense did not have problems.

This particular post strikes me as silly.

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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:49 pm 
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Stosh-67 wrote:
Stillerz Bar wrote:
The started turtling at the end of the first half. They had 55 seconds left and took a knee without even trying anything.

I know they were getting the ball to start the 2nd half but talk about living in your fears. The Pats only had one TO so the Jags could have at least tried a running play to see if the break something - if it doesn't work you let the clock run.

Yup,

First three series were great balanced, mixed it up, fooled the Pats defense.
12 of 21 first and second down plays were pass plays.
8 passes and 6 runs on first down plays.

Then they started to Tomlin on their ( 4th ) possession middle of second quarter, 5 minutes left.
Run, Run Pass, Run, Run , pass.....punt.

Pats went down and scored.

Stosh, couldn't agree more. Said it when I was watching the game. Hackett (maybe due to orders from the HC - who knows really) started turtling, trying to accomplish one thing -- keep the clock running by not throwing an incomplete pass. He was calling a great game for the first 28 minutes too. Maybe Marrone gave him direction thinking his D could hold them. That's the problem and mistake everyone makes. It seems like all coaches (excluding BB) go to the same coaching school. "Turtle and run the clock when you have a lead, no matter what 101" seems to be the first class they take! :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:40 pm 
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Jeemie wrote:
The headline should be “Going up against Bill Belichick turns you stupid”.

New England is the only team in the league that truly plays a 60 minute game.

Every other coach feels the pressure of that and wilts.

your right; and throw in the fact u know the zebras are gonna assist and u pucker up like a teen boy on first date..its crazy...


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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:32 am 
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Miter Saw wrote:
Wasn't this thread title originally something to the effect of "introducing the new HC of the steelers, Mr nathaniel hackett"


hahahaha -- yea, it was -- I had to change it once the 2nd half started!

notice that the Jax offense went downhill after Deebo got more snaps in 2nd half


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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:02 pm 
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This thread is worth a read. It's about the Jags 4th quarter playcalling: https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/955454941073731584

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Every. Single. First. Down. Was. A. Run. From. Shotgun. You think the Patriots didn't figure that out? Look at the totals on those four 1st & 10 runs as the quarter progressed: 2 yds 1 yd 1 yd -1 yd

Every. Single. Second. Down. Was. A. Long. Pass. Downfield. These are all 2nd and long situations with a 4Q lead. Goals are either: bleed clock or set up 3rd and manageable. Instead, look at the distance of these passes: 20 yds 20 yds 35 yds 17 yds

So now on 3rd and long, with a stopped clock, what do the Jaguars do? 100% pass, only 1 was complete. The punt following that pass was snapped w 6 seconds on play clock. The others were punted w stopped clock. No passes resulted in 1st down. *3 punts in 4Q with a lead*

The Jaguars had 6 snaps in the 4th quarter, with a moving clock & a lead (if you include the 1 punt). They NEVER ran the play clock to even 5 seconds, let alone inside 5 seconds. 4 of the 6 snaps were with 9-13 seconds on the play clock.

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 Post subject: Re: Hackett the OC shit the bed this game
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Pabst wrote:
This thread is worth a read. It's about the Jags 4th quarter playcalling: https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/955454941073731584

Key points:
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Every. Single. First. Down. Was. A. Run. From. Shotgun. You think the Patriots didn't figure that out? Look at the totals on those four 1st & 10 runs as the quarter progressed: 2 yds 1 yd 1 yd -1 yd

Every. Single. Second. Down. Was. A. Long. Pass. Downfield. These are all 2nd and long situations with a 4Q lead. Goals are either: bleed clock or set up 3rd and manageable. Instead, look at the distance of these passes: 20 yds 20 yds 35 yds 17 yds

So now on 3rd and long, with a stopped clock, what do the Jaguars do? 100% pass, only 1 was complete. The punt following that pass was snapped w 6 seconds on play clock. The others were punted w stopped clock. No passes resulted in 1st down. *3 punts in 4Q with a lead*

The Jaguars had 6 snaps in the 4th quarter, with a moving clock & a lead (if you include the 1 punt). They NEVER ran the play clock to even 5 seconds, let alone inside 5 seconds. 4 of the 6 snaps were with 9-13 seconds on the play clock.


So not only did they try and turtle...they were super-duper predictable with their turtling AND they didn't even use up all of the play clock?

Wow! Todd Haley is the world's greatest coordinator compared to Hackett!

And kudos to Warren Sharp for calling out second half playcalling with a lead as a concern early in Jax' season.

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