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 Post subject: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:58 pm 
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Of course it’s New England

The flags must come out

https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/bo ... 13377.html

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“But how about this one? Doug Marrone said this was the right call. Barry Church, helmet to helmet, unnecessary roughness. Now it’s Gillette Stadium so the flags have to come out, don’t they boys? They come out in favor of the Patriots, I don’t know about this call on A.J. Bouye.”

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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I'd love for someone to scrub film and study the Pats O line in this game.

Holding or no?

Brady had all day to throw against a very aggressive defense. They were second behind the steelers in sacks.

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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refs definitely helped NE today -- but I didn't think it was overwhelming

I'm still amazed they gave Jax that fumble call against Dion Lewis

the PI on AJB was bullshit, but it didn't determine the outcome of the game

The delay of game penalty in 2nd Q against Jax was HUGE -- but that was an easy call -- Jax had a brain cramp -- can't do that and beat NE at NE


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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COR-TEN wrote:
I'd love for someone to scrub film and study the Pats O line in this game.

Holding or no?

Brady had all day to throw against a very aggressive defense. They were second behind the steelers in sacks.


very hard to see line play with the angle they give us on TV -- but it sure looked like Jax was being mugged

On the other hand, they ran the same 4 guys the whole game, and they also looked tired as fuck


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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COR-TEN wrote:
I'd love for someone to scrub film and study the Pats O line in this game.

Holding or no?

Brady had all day to throw against a very aggressive defense. They were second behind the steelers in sacks.


I saw holding in triplicate

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:21 pm 
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So many people are on to this now that they're no longer hosing the other team...they're just not calling penalties on NE.

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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I don't think it's outright collusion but I think it is the thumb on the scale that people are finally noticing


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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Meh - the Steelers dynasty used to get the same complaints- plenty of opportunities to bury them today and Blake choked.

Pats going for 3-peat next year - wonder what major free agent they will sign?


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
I don't think it's outright collusion but I think it is the thumb on the scale that people are finally noticing


There were a few comments from Romo and the others today. Then you look at the stupid Malcovich intro and "David/Goliath" crap...

So even the highly paid talking heads aren't able to hide their disgust anymore. And that's the point. Ratings are in the toilet and people are so sick of NE that they watch just hoping to see them lose.

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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Meh - the Steelers dynasty used to get the same complaints- plenty of opportunities to bury them today and Blake choked.

Pats going for 3-peat next year - wonder what major free agent they will sign?
Leveon Bell?

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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COR-TEN wrote:
Suwanee88 wrote:
Meh - the Steelers dynasty used to get the same complaints- plenty of opportunities to bury them today and Blake choked.

Pats going for 3-peat next year - wonder what major free agent they will sign?
Leveon Bell?


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
The Fat Lady has been singing since LA when goodell and kraft had already decided the outcome for Super Bowl 52?


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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steel wrote:
refs definitely helped NE today -- but I didn't think it was overwhelming

I'm still amazed they gave Jax that fumble call against Dion Lewis

the PI on AJB was bullshit, but it didn't determine the outcome of the game

The delay of game penalty in 2nd Q against Jax was HUGE -- but that was an easy call -- Jax had a brain cramp -- can't do that and beat NE at NE


It was obviously a fumble. The bullshit part was that Jack would've scored but for a bullshit whistle.


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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It's also very targeted - look at the end of the second qtr today... hell it was the same last week to.

Just a deluge of calls against Jacksonvile on both sides of the ball that essentially moves the Patriots from being down 14-3 at the half to 14-10.
Delay of game penalty
Holding
15 yard helmet to helmet
30+ yard PI call

All against the Jags, all within 3 minutes of the half. That momentum shift gets the Patriots on track for the second half. Does it mean the game? No... but it sure helps to get probably close to 70-80 yards in penalties when you absolutely need it.

I also noticed that when the Jags had to punt before the half, the play before was the holding call I believe, the clock was at 2:20 - I remember because the Patriots waited a bit to call a timeout and I noticed the clock.

After the penalty the clock is rest I believe to 2:23.

The next play is 3rd down, then 4th down the punt is caught with a fair catch... with 2:02 on the clock - a free timeout for the Patriots.


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:31 pm 
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BethlehemSteel wrote:
Of course it’s New England

The flags must come out

https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/bo ... 13377.html

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“But how about this one? Doug Marrone said this was the right call. Barry Church, helmet to helmet, unnecessary roughness. Now it’s Gillette Stadium so the flags have to come out, don’t they boys? They come out in favor of the Patriots, I don’t know about this call on A.J. Bouye.”


Being that Boomer has been a Pats rumpswab for a while now, this real says something.

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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Steelafan77 wrote:
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Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
The Fat Lady has been singing since LA when goodell and kraft had already decided the outcome for Super Bowl 52?

I’ve been repeating that for 3 weeks

Glad others are too

It’s too cozy and you can bet your house on deep collusion


Goodell is still a puppet to Kraft even after the Brady mess

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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ToddHaleysNineIron wrote:
It's also very targeted - look at the end of the second qtr today... hell it was the same last week to.

Just a deluge of calls against Jacksonvile on both sides of the ball that essentially moves the Patriots from being down 14-3 at the half to 14-10.
Delay of game penalty
Holding
15 yard helmet to helmet
30+ yard PI call

All against the Jags, all within 3 minutes of the half. That momentum shift gets the Patriots on track for the second half. Does it mean the game? No... but it sure helps to get probably close to 70-80 yards in penalties when you absolutely need it.

I also noticed that when the Jags had to punt before the half, the play before was the holding call I believe, the clock was at 2:20 - I remember because the Patriots waited a bit to call a timeout and I noticed the clock.

After the penalty the clock is rest I believe to 2:23.

The next play is 3rd down, then 4th down the punt is caught with a fair catch... with 2:02 on the clock - a free timeout for the Patriots.


GOod eye. You shiukd call that into the league. That is blatant cheating by the ne clock guy

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:48 pm 
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Jags TE was mugged several times with no flag in second half on that short crossers

NOT ONE SINGLE HOLDING PENALTY.
NOT ONE SINGLE PASS INTERFETENCE.

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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Two playoff games for Pats.

16 penalties for opponent
5 for Pats.

And if I recall.... refs thru a few flags on Pats after game was settled....almost to lessen the discrepency last week.

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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Over the last five games, the pats were penalized 13 times for 111 yards and their opponents 35 for 390 yards.


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SteeLori wrote:
Over the last five games, the pats were penalized 13 times for 111 yards and their opponents 35 for 390 yards.

In sane.

No holding penalties on OL in two playoff games.
No PI in two games

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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they are either very discpline or very lucky not to get caught


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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steelmann58 wrote:
they are either very discpline or very lucky not to get caught


You don't have to be lucky when the refs look the other way and bury the flag deep into their pocket!


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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Zeke5123 wrote:
steel wrote:
refs definitely helped NE today -- but I didn't think it was overwhelming

I'm still amazed they gave Jax that fumble call against Dion Lewis

the PI on AJB was bullshit, but it didn't determine the outcome of the game

The delay of game penalty in 2nd Q against Jax was HUGE -- but that was an easy call -- Jax had a brain cramp -- can't do that and beat NE at NE


It was obviously a fumble. The bullshit part was that Jack would've scored but for a bullshit whistle.




Thats my take as well, bullshit whistle..also that last drive before the 1st half ended..all aided by the refs..such BS, they dont even hide it anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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These penalty numbers are out of hand. A single penalty against them the entire game? The way the game played out, I suppose it left little wiggle room for the refs to tack on meaningless calls at the end to make it look slightly less suspicious.


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