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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:59 pm 
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Still Lit wrote:
Why does a 4 to 1 ratio make no sense? Because we hate the Pats?

It makes no sense if you look at the game and see that there is no significant defense in the way each teams players are going about their business but the penalties still always seem to favor the Pats.

I completely agree with your earlier post about the irony of the Jags bitching about PI calls after mugging Brown last week with no calls going against them. That may be the point though - they were able to play rough D against every other team in the league with no calls but against the Pasts the flags come out.


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:01 pm 
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Stillerz Bar wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Why does a 4 to 1 ratio make no sense? Because we hate the Pats?

It makes no sense if you look at the game and see that there is no significant defense in the way each teams players are going about their business but the penalties still always seem to favor the Pats.

I completely agree with your earlier post about the irony of the Jags bitching about PI calls after mugging Brown last week with no calls going against them. That may be the point though - they were able to play rough D against every other team in the league with no calls but against the Pasts the flags come out.



Yup and I and im sure others here predicted as much.


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:10 pm 
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Stillerz Bar wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Why does a 4 to 1 ratio make no sense? Because we hate the Pats?

It makes no sense if you look at the game and see that there is no significant defense in the way each teams players are going about their business but the penalties still always seem to favor the Pats.

I completely agree with your earlier post about the irony of the Jags bitching about PI calls after mugging Brown last week with no calls going against them. That may be the point though - they were able to play rough D against every other team in the league with no calls but against the Pasts the flags come out.


I don't watch Pats unless they play Steelers or are in the playoffs.

I am suspicious that Pats simply get calls.

One reason opposing defenses might get more calls is because the Pats offense is so damn good.

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:19 pm 
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Still Lit wrote:
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Both "Patriots are more disciplined" and "they are getting star treatment from refs" can be true at the same time. I believe they are both true.

I don't believe the NFL is playing favorites with the Pats. I do think that individual refs give the Pats a little of the LeBron James treatment. Ask for a penalty - get a penalty.


I'm sure there is much tape of Tom squealing at refs for flags and not getting them, though.


Certainly. And like LeBron, when he doesn't get a call he's apoplectic.

Look. I'm not a conspiracy guy. But it's hard not to notice the number of calls that have gone the Pats way just in the last 5-6 games. They lose the Steelers game if the refs use the proper interpretation of "indisputable evidence" on the James play. They lose the Jags game if they don't blow the whistle on the Myles Jack recovery. Add to that the penalty disparities. Not sure what to make of it.

Oh, and it's now really the only way to poke Pats fans, who are now a 10 on the all time insufferability scale

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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Mile Jack fumble should have been a TD, however the refs blew it down.

He was not touched down. This is the biggest fuck up call in the game and gives Jax a 17 pt 4th q lead.

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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Mile Jack fumble should have been a TD, however the refs blew it down.

He was not touched down. This is the biggest fuck up call in the game and gives Jax a 17 pt 4th q lead.


Because he was down. He was touching Lewis when he took the ball away.

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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jebrick wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:
Mile Jack fumble should have been a TD, however the refs blew it down.

He was not touched down. This is the biggest fuck up call in the game and gives Jax a 17 pt 4th q lead.


Because he was down. He was touching Lewis when he took the ball away.




No video confirmed he was not being touched when Jack got possession of the ball. That play never shoulda been whistled dead, especially since the live call by the ref was a fumble, shoulda let it play out then review entire play.


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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:55 pm 
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Mile Jack fumble should have been a TD, however the refs blew it down.

He was not touched down. This is the biggest fuck up call in the game and gives Jax a 17 pt 4th q lead.


Because he was down. He was touching Lewis when he took the ball away.


I don't think that is the rule, he was clear when he got full possession. His teammates were shouting at him to get up and run

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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jebrick wrote:
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Mile Jack fumble should have been a TD, however the refs blew it down.

He was not touched down. This is the biggest fuck up call in the game and gives Jax a 17 pt 4th q lead.


Because he was down. He was touching Lewis when he took the ball away.
That's how I saw it.

The Lebron or Jordon comparisons are inaccurate, if you ask me. Those are two guys that can change the outcome of a game all by themselves. Throwing the ball to a rookie or a no name receiver and getting a DPI call is calling it on the no name receiver, not the superstar. The calls are going to the "organization," not one superstar player. Like the lack of a flag for a crack back block, or the time keeper leaving an additional three seconds after the clock hit zero, or no calls on the pats o line or defensive secondary. I saw a few questionable calls that if it were going the other way, they would have been called. And were.

I never thought the NFL was rigged, just guided, or nudged in one direction or another. Good teams need to play great to overcome other good teams with history. But the appearance of impropriety with Goodell spending playoff weekend with Kraft, or the refs calling the game have a connection with the pats organization simply has horrible optics. It just looks like someone is putting their finger on the scale. On top of the skewed penalty statistics. It just doesn't smell right. And now they aren't even apologizing for it. They are going through mental gymnastics to justify the "correct" calls even though they contradict themselves constantly.

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 Post subject: Re: Boomer addresses the elephant in the room
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May have been a legitimate call, but the PI call in the fourth quarter that flipped the field for NE sure happened at a convenient time. Gave them a short field on their next possession to score what turned out to be the winning TD. Without that, JAX would have stopped them. Probably run clock. Maybe scored again.

That’s one way they help NE. Making calls go their way at key moments (like the touchdown overturned in our regular season matchup). When you can keep it close, as they always can, one gift in the fourth quarter will win it for them 90 percent of the time.


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