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 Post subject: Re: The dumb argument for not firing Mike Tomlin
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:22 pm 
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What GM do you replace Colbert with?

That’s for you FC


Its a fair question. I going to give you an honest yet chicken shit answer.

Omar Khan would become VP/GM

BUT

I would also hire a head of Football operations

Brad Holmes from the Rams I would consider
Louis Clark from the Chargers would get strong consideration

I would hire Jeff Ireland from the Saints

Famous for asking Dez Bryant if his mom was a crack whore

He can pick talent....That is all I would be looking for. Draft and free agents

Here is the ammo to prove I am a fucking idiot who has lost his mind

https://www.thephinsider.com/2016/3/13/11214832/a-measure-of-redemption-for-jeff-ireland

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2017/10/23/16525012/new-orleans-saints-jeff-ireland-sean-payton-miami-dolphins-mickey-loomis-general-manager-scouting

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 Post subject: Re: The dumb argument for not firing Mike Tomlin
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:17 am 
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Gonzo wrote:
Agree completely that things have become stale

I agree with FC saying the steelers are organizationally stale... but the only thing more stale is this place!

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 Post subject: Re: The dumb argument for not firing Mike Tomlin
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
Agree completely that things have become stale

I agree with FC saying the steelers are organizationally stale... but the only thing more stale is this place!


I embrace that staleness ... if you will
And resemble that remark


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 Post subject: Re: The dumb argument for not firing Mike Tomlin
PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:49 am 
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Tomlin's about as stale as a week-old Bavarian creme from Dunkin' Donuts. Thanks for Pats-Eagles today, Tomlin!

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 Post subject: Re: The dumb argument for not firing Mike Tomlin
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:31 am 
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Here is another case for firing.

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Doug Pederson: Coaching conservatively is a good way to go 8-8


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... to-go-8-8/

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 Post subject: Re: The dumb argument for not firing Mike Tomlin
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:36 am 
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His best player, and perhaps the best individual skill position player in the NFL (Antonio Brown) was a sixth-round pick in Colbert’s first year calling the shots.


The quote above is from the Barry Foster link who was attempting to be a wise ass with his some unknown publication

My contention is the draft, free agent signings, and direction of the franchise on field

2017(Excluded)
1 30 T.J. Watt LB Wisconsin
2 2 30 62 JuJu Smith-Schuster WR USC
3 3 30 94 Cameron Sutton DB Tennessee
4 3 41 105 James Conner RB Pittsburgh
5 4 29 135 Joshua Dobbs QB Tennessee
6 5 30 173 Brian Allen DB Utah
7 6 30 213 Colin Holba C Louisville
8 7 30 248 Keion Adams LB Western Michigan

2016(Excluded)
1 25 25 Artie Burns DB Miami (FL)
2 2 27 58 Sean Davis DB Maryland
3 3 26 89 Javon Hargrave DT South Carolina State
4 4 25 123 Jerald Hawkins T Louisiana State
5 6 45 220 Travis Feeney LB Washington
6 7 8 229 DeMarcus Ayers WR Houston
7 7 25 246 Tyler Matakevich LB Temple

2015 1 1 22 22 Bud Dupree LB Kentucky
2 2 24 56 Senquez Golson DB Mississippi
3 3 23 87 Sammie Coates WR Auburn
4 4 22 121 Doran Grant DB Ohio State
5 5 24 160 Jesse James TE Penn State
6 6 23 199 Leterrius Walton DT Central Michigan
7 6 36 212 Anthony Chickillo DE Miami (FL)
8 7 22 239 Gerod Holliman DB Louisville

2014
1 15 Ryan Shazier LB Ohio State
2 2 14 46 Stephon Tuitt DE Notre Dame
3 3 33 97 Dri Archer RB Kent State
4 4 18 118 Martavis Bryant WR Clemson
5 5 17 157 Shaquille Richardson DB Arizona
6 5 33 173 Wesley Johnson T Vanderbilt
7 6 16 192 Jordan Zumwalt LB UCLA
8 6 39 215 Daniel McCullers DT Tennessee
9 7 15 230 Rob Blanchflower TE Massachusetts

2013
1 17 Jarvis Jones LB Georgia
2 2 16 48 Le'Veon Bell RB Michigan State
3 3 17 79 Markus Wheaton WR Oregon State
4 4 14 111 Shamarko Thomas DB Syracuse
5 4 18 115 Landry Jones QB Oklahoma
6 5 17 150 Terry Hawthorne DB Illinois
7 6 18 186 Justin Brown WR Oklahoma
8 6 38 206 Vince Williams LB Florida State
9 7 17 223 Nick Williams DT Samford

2012 1 1 24 24 David DeCastro G Stanford
2 2 24 56 Mike Adams T Ohio State
3 3 23 86 Sean Spence LB Miami (FL)
4 4 14 109 Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington
5 5 24 159 Chris Rainey RB Florida
6 7 24 231 Toney Clemons WR Colorado
7 7 33 240 David Paulson TE Oregon
8 7 39 246 Terrence Frederick DB Texas A&M
9 7 41 248 Kelvin Beachum T Southern Methodist

2011 1 1 31 31 Cameron Hayward DE Ohio State
2 2 31 63 Marcus Gilbert T Florida
3 3 31 95 Curtis Brown DB Texas
4 4 31 128 Cortez Allen DB Citadel
5 5 31 162 Chris Carter LB Fresno State
6 6 31 196 Keith Williams G Nebraska
7 7 29 232 Baron Batch RB Texas Tech

2010 1 1 18 18 Maurkice Pouncey C Florida
2 2 20 52 Jason Worilds LB Virginia Tech
3 3 18 82 Emmanuel Sanders WR Southern Methodist
4 4 18 116 Thaddeus Gibson LB Ohio State
5 5 20 151 Chris Scott G Tennessee
6 5 33 164 Crezdon Butler DB Clemson
7 5 35 166 Stevenson Sylvester LB Utah
8 6 19 188 Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech
9 6 26 195 Antonio Brown WR Central Michigan
10 7 35 242 Doug Worthington DE Ohio State

Bolded players I call wins...Everyone else I call a bust. I did not touch the past two drafts.

Free Agent signings have been hit or miss

Mike Mitchell
JJ Wilcox
Ladarius Green
Vance Macdonald
Justin Hunter
Villy
Boswell
Tyson Alalau


I left off some of the horrid signings tried to be fair I also kept it to the recent signings

Lastly I guess what I am trying to say is I hate the incestuous style at this point

The Steelers have the same scouts/ Same methods(BLESTO)
They recycle coaches
Former players as scouts
Recycle ideas
The Steelers lack an identity on the field
The Steelers way has stayed the same since April of 1992
New ideas
Fresh perspectives are needed

I don't believe firing Tomlin is the answer
I don't believe firing Colbert is the answer

I think firing both is the answer.


This franchise has a slow rot when the calendar turns.

HOF quarterback
Several elite backs
Very good offensive lines
Elite receivers
Great defenses

Zero championships since 2010
Many failures...Tomlin had his share
Not having a single fucking capable inside backer on the horizon is a Colbert problem since he called the shots since 2010
Does Colbert share in the off field issues of Bryant and Bell...How about Blount? Is that purely a Tomlin thing?

Lack of direction.
Lack of control

Slow rot
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FC, fucking bringing it. Agree with all of it. Especially the italicized bolded.

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 Post subject: Re: The dumb argument for not firing Mike Tomlin
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:54 am 
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Hey, lets not forget the second dumbest argument for not firing Mike Tomlin.

Because you dont like/want him because you are a racist.

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 Post subject: Re: The dumb argument for not firing Mike Tomlin
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:17 am 
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FC wrote:
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What GM do you replace Colbert with?

That’s for you FC


Its a fair question. I going to give you an honest yet chicken shit answer.

Omar Khan would become VP/GM

BUT

I would also hire a head of Football operations

Brad Holmes from the Rams I would consider
Louis Clark from the Chargers would get strong consideration

I would hire Jeff Ireland from the Saints

Famous for asking Dez Bryant if his mom was a crack whore

He can pick talent....That is all I would be looking for. Draft and free agents


Here is the ammo to prove I am a fucking idiot who has lost his mind

https://www.thephinsider.com/2016/3/13/11214832/a-measure-of-redemption-for-jeff-ireland

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2017/10/23/16525012/new-orleans-saints-jeff-ireland-sean-payton-miami-dolphins-mickey-loomis-general-manager-scouting


I like that, he found Alvin Kamara and he and the HC persued him relentlessly

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 Post subject: Re: The dumb argument for not firing Mike Tomlin
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:17 am 
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Here is another case for firing.

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Doug Pederson: Coaching conservatively is a good way to go 8-8



Also a good way to avoid a losing season!

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