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 Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell saying the Steelers have made significant..
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:02 pm 
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Forget about cap hits 2 years from now! Just load up while Ben is still standing, even if you have to cut 20 guys the year after he retires, because it won't matter anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell saying the Steelers have made significant..
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It's hard to imagine PIT offering less than their last deal (right or wrong, Bell would be insulted).

Since the first year in both scenarios was fairly equivalent, I think they're offering 4/$48M. For me, I'd be more in the neighorhood of 4/$40M with $20M guaranteed, but that's not happening.

I say this every time....Other teams give small SB and then guarantee the first 2, sometimes part of the 3rd, year to get the deal done. That is 100% the way to do these contracts, with little dead money after the first 2 years when you might possibly think about a cut or trade. PIT doesn't do it that way.

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 Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell saying the Steelers have made significant..
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It makes me nervous that Bell is happy. Because, you know, his expectations are nuts.

I can’t see him lowering his expected value or being “happy” the Steelers lowered their number. So, I’m guessing the Steelers upped theirs. I suppose we’ll just wait and see.


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 Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell saying the Steelers have made significant..
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randomsteelerfan wrote:
It makes me nervous that Bell is happy. Because, you know, his expectations are nuts.

I can’t see him lowering his expected value or being “happy” the Steelers lowered their number. So, I’m guessing the Steelers upped theirs. I suppose we’ll just wait and see.

It makes me nervous that Butler is still heading up this defense


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 Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell saying the Steelers have made significant..
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randomsteelerfan wrote:
It makes me nervous that Bell is happy. Because, you know, his expectations are nuts.


Maybe they got creative and started with $14.4M for the tag this year. Guarantee a second year at $10M, and then a non-guaranteed third year at $18M. He gets bragging rights and to save face, but he's never seeing that 3rd year. PIT ends up with basically 3 years of their original offer and no dead money.

That's what SHOULD happen. But Colbert is a dinosaur when it comes to contract structures.

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 Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell saying the Steelers have made significant..
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Sign him, then trade him....One puff away....


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 Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell saying the Steelers have made significant..
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steelheels wrote:
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If he says they are closer, I hope it means he has come to his senses on his talk of $15-$17 million per year.

And realizes his $14 last year was almost twice as the next few highest paid backs.


Right with ya.

He has to understand that he isn't going to get anywhere near what he was hoping for (or offered) last year.


Like I said on another MB, he won't get what he thinks is the MAX, but will get a good bit more than last year's proposal.
I'm guessing closer to 14mil per year.


I thought we offered him 2 years for 30 in the offseason and he shot it down quickly?


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 Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell saying the Steelers have made significant..
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:11 pm 
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Kodiak wrote:
randomsteelerfan wrote:
It makes me nervous that Bell is happy. Because, you know, his expectations are nuts.


Maybe they got creative and started with $14.4M for the tag this year. Guarantee a second year at $10M, and then a non-guaranteed third year at $18M. He gets bragging rights and to save face, but he's never seeing that 3rd year. PIT ends up with basically 3 years of their original offer and no dead money.

That's what SHOULD happen. But Colbert is a dinosaur when it comes to contract structures.


Maybe. It’ll be nteresting to see what exactly is making Bell happy.


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 Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell saying the Steelers have made significant..
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I'm guessing you will see in the neighborhood of 13-14mil average annual with more guaranteed money up front.
Bell isn't stupid...he knows a RB shelf-life may be short. He wants as much as he can get guaranteed.


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 Post subject: Re: Le'Veon Bell saying the Steelers have made significant..
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I don't think any running back in todays pass happy nfl is worth that much..crazy to use that much cap for 1 running back..


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