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 Post subject: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:44 am 
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Chiefs trade Alex Smith to Washington, saving $15.6 million http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/ka ... 08249.html
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On the agreement in principle. Alex Smith will average $23.5 million per year in new money on the extension and $70 million in guarantees. Nobody will be able to review that contract for awhile because officially there is no contract. https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/9 ... 9015070720
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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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I know this really doesn't belong in here but... can the Steelers hire this guy already?

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“I want to thank Darren and his wife Errika for their dedication to the Packers over the last nine years,” McCarthy added. “We wish Darren and his family all the best moving forward.” http://nfltraderumors.co/packers-partin ... ren-perry/

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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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Rumor is Jacksonville is the front runner to land Kirk Cousins.

If they get Cousins and a playmaker or two on offense they have to be the favorite to win it all next year.

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I've heard the frontrunner for Cousins is Denver and supposedly a deal has been in place for a few days. Heard from a friend of mine who is a scout.

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Rumor is Jacksonville is the front runner to land Kirk Cousins.

If they get Cousins and a playmaker or two on offense they have to be the favorite to win it all next year.


They also get Allen Robinson back at WR.


Major downgrade by the Skins in my opinion. I have to think Cousins had enough of Washington and didn't want to sign there no matter the price.

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Cousins ends up in Cleveland @ about $30 million a year. They can fix an awful lot this year with all of their money and draft picks.

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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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Cousins ends up in Cleveland @ about $30 million a year. They can fix an awful lot this year with all of their money and draft picks.

Jets, Broncos, Redskins, Saints, Bills, Cardinals, Jags, Browns, and Giants all have the salary cap space to sign him. I'd be floored if he chooses Cleveland.

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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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I don't think Haley ever coached Smith.

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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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Pabst wrote:
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Cousins ends up in Cleveland @ about $30 million a year. They can fix an awful lot this year with all of their money and draft picks.

Jets, Broncos, Redskins, Saints, Bills, Cardinals, Jags, Browns, and Giants all have the salary cap space to sign him. I'd be floored if he chooses Cleveland.



Just a feeling Pabst...I think they have the ammunition to get better very quickly and some of the top free agents may start to acknowledge it.

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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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I don't think Haley ever coached Smith.


Correct.

Smith to chiefs in 2013....already haley's 2nd season in Pittsburgh.


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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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Rumor is Jacksonville is the front runner to land Kirk Cousins.

If they get Cousins and a playmaker or two on offense they have to be the favorite to win it all next year.


They also get Allen Robinson back at WR.


Major downgrade by the Skins in my opinion. I have to think Cousins had enough of Washington and didn't want to sign there no matter the price.

Agree, I don't understand the move by the Skins. They basically got the same QB but 4 years older with less potential.

I am guessing Washington is going to try and move up to get one of the young QB's at the top of the draft or the PSU RB.


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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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Charles Demarr wrote:
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Cousins ends up in Cleveland @ about $30 million a year. They can fix an awful lot this year with all of their money and draft picks.

Jets, Broncos, Redskins, Saints, Bills, Cardinals, Jags, Browns, and Giants all have the salary cap space to sign him. I'd be floored if he chooses Cleveland.



Just a feeling Pabst...I think they have the ammunition to get better very quickly and some of the top free agents may start to acknowledge it.

It's still unrealistic to assume they'll be competitive next year. And it's pretty likely that Hue Jackson is fired if things don't go well. Given Cousins' statements about wanting to go to a winner, I just don't see him taking the risk of going to a team like Cleveland.

I personally think that Denver or Buffalo would be much better options, but who knows.

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Den or Buff are the most likely destinations and id wager its Den, since they have a track record of success, elway etc..just more built to win now.

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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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Den has major problems on D.

They lost their MLB and Manimal DL. Now they're losing Talib. They've got some reloading to do. Cousins would be in the lower half of QBs in that division, maybe the 4th best.

I don't think Cousins is enough of an upgrade over Bortles for Jax to make that move, especially given how Bortles played in the playoffs-- which was pretty well.

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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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Den has major problems on D.

They lost their MLB and Manimal DL. Now they're losing Talib. They've got some reloading to do. Cousins would be in the lower half of QBs in that division, maybe the 4th best.

I don't think Cousins is enough of an upgrade over Bortles for Jax to make that move, especially given how Bortles played in the playoffs-- which was pretty well.




You have gone and lost your mind B2B, Cousins is waaaay better than Bortles. Bortles vs Buff...ya wasnt pretty...Bortles vs NE was a decent 1st half, Fugley 2nd half...Bortles vs Tomlins version of the Steelers defense?? Lets just say Cousins would be licking his chops to face a Tomlin defense.

Let me also add, its not that i think Cousins is such a great franchise QB, its just that Bortles sucks that bad.

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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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If Cousins ends up in Denver, they become the favorite to win that division...and the top challenger to the Pats for the AFC crown.

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If Cousins ends up in Denver, they become the favorite to win that division...and the top challenger to the Pats for the AFC crown.

Avatar bet? There's NFW Denver comes close to winning that division next year. I think they'll be last.

Next year's pecking order:
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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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If Cousins ends up in Denver, they become the favorite to win that division...and the top challenger to the Pats for the AFC crown.


Huh?

They may finish last in the division with him.

Why does everyone think Denver is such a good situation? No running game, a defense that got thrashed last year, a bunch of veteran cuts coming to sign Cousins, etc etc etc.

San Diego is better, KC is much better, and one would expect a nice turnaround from the Raiders with Chucky.

I don't get it.

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 Post subject: Re: So much for Haley reuniting with Smith
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If Cousins ends up in Denver, they become the favorite to win that division...and the top challenger to the Pats for the AFC crown.

Avatar bet? There's NFW Denver comes close to winning that division next year. I think they'll be last.

Next year's pecking order:
NE
PIT
KC
JAX
LAC
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Putting PITT in front of JAX, hunh?

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If Cousins ends up in Denver, they become the favorite to win that division...and the top challenger to the Pats for the AFC crown.

Avatar bet? There's NFW Denver comes close to winning that division next year. I think they'll be last.

Next year's pecking order:
NE
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KC
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I don’t gamble, and don’t do avatars. But you can razz me about it if it doesn’t happen. :lol:

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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If Cousins ends up in Denver, they become the favorite to win that division...and the top challenger to the Pats for the AFC crown.

Avatar bet? There's NFW Denver comes close to winning that division next year. I think they'll be last.

Next year's pecking order:
NE
PIT
KC
JAX
LAC
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everybody else


Agree...Denver is on the decline. Aging WRs, holes on defense, an average O line, and zero running game. Cousins will struggle badly.

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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If Cousins ends up in Denver, they become the favorite to win that division...and the top challenger to the Pats for the AFC crown.

Avatar bet? There's NFW Denver comes close to winning that division next year. I think they'll be last.

Next year's pecking order:
NE
PIT
KC
JAX
LAC
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everybody else


So....the 4 division winners plus a team that just missed the playoffs. Way to go out on a limb ;)

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This is a strange day as I end up agreeing with B2B again. I don't think Cousins is all that.

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Next Years AFC playoff seeding and records
1. Patriots (14-2)
2. Texans (12-4)
3. Ravens (11-5)
4. Chargers (10-6)
5. Steelers (11-5)
6. Jaguars (10-6)

Patriots maintain
Texans surge with their 2 best players back
Ravens back to normal after all their injuries
Chargers play to their potential more often
Steelers/Jags slide a little. Steelers lose twice to Ravens to lose tie breaker
Titans, Bills, Chiefs no bueno

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