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 Post subject: Re: Jesse James Catch vs Ertz Catch
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:19 am 
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Jeemie wrote:
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If you think he’s “holding the ball” there, you are using your homer glasses that show he has the longest pinky and ring fingers in existence.

And the refs had that angle. They could see it hit the ground, and they could see the ball move when it hit the ground.


So now after replay, refs need to measure body parts to see if such plays are physically possibly by the length of their anatomy? If JJ had a deformity they going to take that into consideration?

Again, the evidence is NOT INDISPUTABLE.
If they would have ruled it Incomplete I'd say the same thing: there's not enough evidence to overturn the call on the field. I can't tell from the angles that he DID have control and hands under the ball
Period and end of story- stick with the original call


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse James Catch vs Ertz Catch
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The simple fact that James made a football move by diving [after taking a step] over the goal line was indisputable. Once the Goal line is broken..., Touchdown Period! Debate all you want. Exercise in futility, Dilly Dilly....


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse James Catch vs Ertz Catch
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Whatever side one falls on the Jesse James catch/no catch debate, I think it’s pretty clear that the call would have stood has it occurred in the Super Bowl. NFL didn’t want anything offensively successful that looked like a clear touchdown to millions of people, and was called a touchdown on the field, micromanaged into a reversal, rewarding a defense that had failed on the play. I think the first of the two eagles touchdowns that went to review demonstrates this more than the second, where multiple steps were taken and a reversal would have been a travesty.


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse James Catch vs Ertz Catch
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Will-the-Shake wrote:
Whatever side one falls on the Jesse James catch/no catch debate, I think it’s pretty clear that the call would have stood has it occurred in the Super Bowl. NFL didn’t want anything offensively successful that looked like a clear touchdown to millions of people, and was called a touchdown on the field, micromanaged into a reversal, rewarding a defense that had failed on the play. I think the first of the two eagles touchdowns that went to review demonstrates this more than the second, where multiple steps were taken and a reversal would have been a travesty.


James did nothing like take multiple steps. Not even close. I still think posters thinking the reversal was obviously flawed are delusional.

If only the fucker had tucked and rolled.

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse James Catch vs Ertz Catch
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:13 am 
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Still Lit wrote:
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Whatever side one falls on the Jesse James catch/no catch debate, I think it’s pretty clear that the call would have stood has it occurred in the Super Bowl. NFL didn’t want anything offensively successful that looked like a clear touchdown to millions of people, and was called a touchdown on the field, micromanaged into a reversal, rewarding a defense that had failed on the play. I think the first of the two eagles touchdowns that went to review demonstrates this more than the second, where multiple steps were taken and a reversal would have been a travesty.


James did nothing like take multiple steps. Not even close. I still think posters thinking the reversal was obviously flawed are delusional.

If only the fucker had tucked and rolled.


Hell...if only James had let it go by...JuJu would have had it.

If only JuJu had continued straight down the sideline...he may get in and even if not, he goes OOB at about the same spot, stopping the clock.

If only our dim bulb coaches had used the three and a half minutes of free timeout they were given wisely.

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse James Catch vs Ertz Catch
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:14 am 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
The simple fact that James made a football move by diving [after taking a step] over the goal line was indisputable. Once the Goal line is broken..., Touchdown Period! Debate all you want. Exercise in futility, Dilly Dilly....


The...refs...have...never...ruled...what...James...did...to...be...a...football...move.

Never...ever.

Prior...precedent.

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse James Catch vs Ertz Catch
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:16 am 
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Jeemie wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Will-the-Shake wrote:
Whatever side one falls on the Jesse James catch/no catch debate, I think it’s pretty clear that the call would have stood has it occurred in the Super Bowl. NFL didn’t want anything offensively successful that looked like a clear touchdown to millions of people, and was called a touchdown on the field, micromanaged into a reversal, rewarding a defense that had failed on the play. I think the first of the two eagles touchdowns that went to review demonstrates this more than the second, where multiple steps were taken and a reversal would have been a travesty.


James did nothing like take multiple steps. Not even close. I still think posters thinking the reversal was obviously flawed are delusional.

If only the fucker had tucked and rolled.


Hell...if only James had let it go by...JuJu would have had it.

If only JuJu had continued straight down the sideline...he may get in and even if not, he goes OOB at about the same spot, stopping the clock.

If only our dim bulb coaches had used the three and a half minutes of free timeout they were given wisely.


Lit and Jeemie are spot on here. Especially the bolded.

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse James Catch vs Ertz Catch
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Donnie...stop being ridiculous.

One doesn’t have to “measure body parts” to know there’s no way James was holding the ball when it hit the ground and bounced up.

The call was a travesty, but rightly called according to the rules.

That’s why the rules are going to be changed.

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 Post subject: Re: Jesse James Catch vs Ertz Catch
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:18 am 
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Still Lit wrote:
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Whatever side one falls on the Jesse James catch/no catch debate, I think it’s pretty clear that the call would have stood has it occurred in the Super Bowl. NFL didn’t want anything offensively successful that looked like a clear touchdown to millions of people, and was called a touchdown on the field, micromanaged into a reversal, rewarding a defense that had failed on the play. I think the first of the two eagles touchdowns that went to review demonstrates this more than the second, where multiple steps were taken and a reversal would have been a travesty.


James did nothing like take multiple steps. Not even close. I still think posters thinking the reversal was obviously flawed are delusional.

If only the fucker had tucked and rolled.


He did what anyone else would have done in that situation...reach for the goal line. It happens in milliseconds and we're thinking just like him, just cross the goal line with the ball. Everyone saying otherwise is just not being honest. I think he made a football move and the issue of "initial" contact with the ground still sets in my mind. I think, IMO, humbly, that at the very least we should have had the ball on the one yard line. Is what it is at this point. Only solace in all of this is the Eagles won!


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 Post subject: Re: Jesse James Catch vs Ertz Catch
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:44 am 
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VASteelerGuy wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Will-the-Shake wrote:
Whatever side one falls on the Jesse James catch/no catch debate, I think it’s pretty clear that the call would have stood has it occurred in the Super Bowl. NFL didn’t want anything offensively successful that looked like a clear touchdown to millions of people, and was called a touchdown on the field, micromanaged into a reversal, rewarding a defense that had failed on the play. I think the first of the two eagles touchdowns that went to review demonstrates this more than the second, where multiple steps were taken and a reversal would have been a travesty.


James did nothing like take multiple steps. Not even close. I still think posters thinking the reversal was obviously flawed are delusional.

If only the fucker had tucked and rolled.


He did what anyone else would have done in that situation...reach for the goal line. It happens in milliseconds and we're thinking just like him, just cross the goal line with the ball. Everyone saying otherwise is just not being honest. I think he made a football move and the issue of "initial" contact with the ground still sets in my mind. I think, IMO, humbly, that at the very least we should have had the ball on the one yard line. Is what it is at this point. Only solace in all of this is the Eagles won!


Not true. I very likely would have dropped the pass.

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