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mcshamiels and belicheat staying in cheatston, massacheaters. https://twitter.com/tomecurran/status/9 ... 8119024640

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The Colts' assistants you've seen reported (e.g. Matt Eberflus as DC) have signed contracts and have been in the team's building, sources say. Indications are they'll still be with the team, albeit under a different HC than McDaniels. https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status ... 2355302400
Looks like the Colts took a big bite of the mcshamiels shit sandwich wo/the bread and are on the hook with these assistant coaches and still no head coach. Wow what a douchebag move on mcshamiels. I guess it happens all the time...


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mcshamiels and belicheat staying in cheatston, massacheaters. https://twitter.com/tomecurran/status/9 ... 8119024640

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The Colts' assistants you've seen reported (e.g. Matt Eberflus as DC) have signed contracts and have been in the team's building, sources say. Indications are they'll still be with the team, albeit under a different HC than McDaniels. https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status ... 2355302400
Looks like the Colts took a big bite of the mcshamiels shit sandwich wo/the bread and are on the hook with these assistant coaches and still no head coach. Wow what a douchebag move on mcshamiels. I guess it happens all the time...

I’m going to guess Colts will be better off in the long run.

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mcshamiels and belicheat staying in cheatston, massacheaters. https://twitter.com/tomecurran/status/9 ... 8119024640

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The Colts' assistants you've seen reported (e.g. Matt Eberflus as DC) have signed contracts and have been in the team's building, sources say. Indications are they'll still be with the team, albeit under a different HC than McDaniels. https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status ... 2355302400
Looks like the Colts took a big bite of the mcshamiels shit sandwich wo/the bread and are on the hook with these assistant coaches and still no head coach. Wow what a douchebag move on mcshamiels. I guess it happens all the time...

I’m going to guess Colts will be better off in the long run.


Could have been a get back for the Deflategate initial memo.

But I think it's more about BB's impending end date in NE, whenever it comes off sooner or later.

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I don't understand why or how McDaniels is in demand for another HC gig. He's a great OC, nothing else


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I don't understand why or how McDaniels is in demand for another HC gig. He's a great OC, nothing else


this move pretty much cements his zero demand in the future outside of NE.

His reputation was perceived to be cleaned up from his St Louis and Denver nefarious doings, but that is all back at square one.

Once a cheater, always a cheater

And to add..... If McD spoke to these assistants prior to the end of the season (Superbowl), then looks like some penalties will be coming down
Article doesn't mention it, but i think it's a no-no with NFL ops and bylaws

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... d-in-indy/

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One of the issues that emerged in the wake of McDaniels treating the Colts like a bad batch of McDonald’s is whether McDaniels has spoken to the people most affected by Josh changing his mind. And one media outlet has both sides of the story covered.

Dianna Russini of ESPN reported shortly before 10:00 p.m. ET that “several members” of McDaniels’ shoulda-woulda-coulda staff in Indianapolis had not yet heard from him. Josina Anderson of ESPN reported that McDaniels has “spoken to every one” of the coaches with whom he would have worked in Indy, and that he spoke to them “a while ago, shortly after [talking to] Indy.”

Whatever the truth may be, ESPN is covered either way. Which is another reason for ESPN’s editors and producers to perhaps consider some sort of procedure for ensuring harmony in tweeting among the small army of reporters who cover the NFL. While it’s somewhat surprising that this doesn’t happen more often, the best approach would be for it to happen never.

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mcshamiels and belicheat staying in cheatston, massacheaters. https://twitter.com/tomecurran/status/9 ... 8119024640

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The Colts' assistants you've seen reported (e.g. Matt Eberflus as DC) have signed contracts and have been in the team's building, sources say. Indications are they'll still be with the team, albeit under a different HC than McDaniels. https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status ... 2355302400
Looks like the Colts took a big bite of the mcshamiels shit sandwich wo/the bread and are on the hook with these assistant coaches and still no head coach. Wow what a douchebag move on mcshamiels. I guess it happens all the time...


This in spades!!

He had better hope that he gets the job in NE because he is never getting another HC interview again unless it is at the HS level.

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Seems to me the Colts are Dolts.

Why in the world announce the guy as your coach if he has not put pen on paper? Business dumb.

Pretty sleazy by JMcD if he indeed had other coaches picked out to be hired, but why the fuck did the Colts accept those contracts if they did not yet have JMcDs signature on paper?

Dumb.

Who knows, Patriots Fury brethren, who knows.

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more bad optics

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At a time when some think Colts G.M. Chris Ballard may part ways with the agent who represents both Ballard and not-quite Colts coach Josh McDaniels, McDaniels may want to reconsider his relationship with Bob Lamonte, too.

According to Mike Garafolo of NFL Media, Lamonte told McDaniels that he was “making perhaps the biggest professional mistake of his career” by bailing on the Colts.

If Lamonte truly believes that (in other words, if he isn’t simply doing damage control), Lamonte should fire his client. And if McDaniels thinks that Lamonte leaked this warning in order to allow Lamonte to engage in damage control, McDaniels should fire his agent.

As one source said in the immediate aftermath of the McDaniels news emerging on Tuesday night, this one quickly will become a “major storm of sh-t.” And it has.

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You think the Steelers could get a first rounder out of the Colts for Tomlin?


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Schiano was to be named new DC today, um that looks off too

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speculation he would be a successor to BB, but that blew up with McD staying?

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Maybe Ernie and Bill reminded Josh that his success is not tied to what's between his ears.........and he already proved that once.

So Josh stays, but Josh had a big payday on his plate....... love the turmoil.

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BethlehemSteel wrote:
Donnie Brasco wrote:
I don't understand why or how McDaniels is in demand for another HC gig. He's a great OC, nothing else


this move pretty much cements his zero demand in the future outside of NE.

His reputation was perceived to be cleaned up from his St Louis and Denver nefarious doings, but that is all back at square one.

Once a cheater, always a cheater

And to add..... If McD spoke to these assistants prior to the end of the season (Superbowl), then looks like some penalties will be coming down
Article doesn't mention it, but i think it's a no-no with NFL ops and bylaws

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... d-in-indy/

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One of the issues that emerged in the wake of McDaniels treating the Colts like a bad batch of McDonald’s is whether McDaniels has spoken to the people most affected by Josh changing his mind. And one media outlet has both sides of the story covered.

Dianna Russini of ESPN reported shortly before 10:00 p.m. ET that “several members” of McDaniels’ shoulda-woulda-coulda staff in Indianapolis had not yet heard from him. Josina Anderson of ESPN reported that McDaniels has “spoken to every one” of the coaches with whom he would have worked in Indy, and that he spoke to them “a while ago, shortly after [talking to] Indy.”

Whatever the truth may be, ESPN is covered either way. Which is another reason for ESPN’s editors and producers to perhaps consider some sort of procedure for ensuring harmony in tweeting among the small army of reporters who cover the NFL. While it’s somewhat surprising that this doesn’t happen more often, the best approach would be for it to happen never.

I would say that is pretty crappy but based on his history both with the Pats and on his own I guess we shouldn't expect anything different from him. Here's the way ESPN reported this piece of the story http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2234 ... d-patriots
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Four coaches who would have been members of McDaniels' staff in Indianapolis told ESPN's Dianna Russini on Tuesday night they were blindsided and had yet to hear from him. But a source familiar with the situation later told ESPN's Josina Anderson that McDaniels has "spoken to every one [of the would-be assistants] a while ago, shortly after [talking to] Indy."

If it had only been one coach it could be a misunderstanding but if four people have the same "he hasn't talked to me" story them I tend to believe them over a proven cheater.


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What a mess.

I said it a few days ago: this is what the end of a dynasty looks like. Players calling out the HC, Coach-Owner friction, Old player-young player jealousy/power plays, coach-QB friction.

Oh, wait, which franchise are we talking about here?

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There were also reports that Schiano was going to be the new DC there. That has since been retracted and he is staying at OSU.

Truly a mess. I love it.


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What a mess.

I said it a few days ago: this is what the end of a dynasty looks like. Players calling out the HC, Coach-Owner friction, Old player-young player jealousy/power plays, coach-QB friction.

Oh, wait, which franchise are we talking about here?


And Philadelphia has all the look of a team that could be the beginning of a dynasty.

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What a mess.

I said it a few days ago: this is what the end of a dynasty looks like. Players calling out the HC, Coach-Owner friction, Old player-young player jealousy/power plays, coach-QB friction.

Oh, wait, which franchise are we talking about here?


The one that owns the Steelers

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What a mess.

I said it a few days ago: this is what the end of a dynasty looks like. Players calling out the HC, Coach-Owner friction, Old player-young player jealousy/power plays, coach-QB friction.

Oh, wait, which franchise are we talking about here?


And Philadelphia has all the look of a team that could be the beginning of a dynasty.

You never know in this league. Seattle sure looked like it was building something for a minute there, but it is falling apart. Some of those high variance decisions can go against you next year. You trade Foles and Wentz gets hurt again... all kinds of stuff can happen.

We're entering into a hallowed QB era. By that I mean: by the end of 2018, we're probably going to have half starting QBs in the league who are very good to elite, if not more. I counted 14 off the top of my head and another handful who are better than competent. I don't think QB play overall has ever been so good. Some of that is the state of the NFL rules and the fact that offenses are ahead of defenses, but some of it is: several of the young QBs are good.

Any team with good coaching and a great QB has a shot. Therefore I take the field over any dynasty for the moment.

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I agree B2B; wildly competitive right now in the league. Which is why if our coaches don’t improve, mainly the guy in charge, I don’t expect us to bring home the trophy. With this much talent, games being decided by a play or two, a yard or two, superior coaching and scheme is needed. My opinion, at least.


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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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What a mess.

I said it a few days ago: this is what the end of a dynasty looks like. Players calling out the HC, Coach-Owner friction, Old player-young player jealousy/power plays, coach-QB friction.

Oh, wait, which franchise are we talking about here?


And Philadelphia has all the look of a team that could be the beginning of a dynasty.

You never know in this league. Seattle sure looked like it was building something for a minute there, but it is falling apart. Some of those high variance decisions can go against you next year. You trade Foles and Wentz gets hurt again... all kinds of stuff can happen.

We're entering into a hallowed QB era. By that I mean: by the end of 2018, we're probably going to have half starting QBs in the league who are very good to elite, if not more. I counted 14 off the top of my head and another handful who are better than competent. I don't think QB play overall has ever been so good. Some of that is the state of the NFL rules and the fact that offenses are ahead of defenses, but some of it is: several of the young QBs are good.

Any team with good coaching and a great QB has a shot. Therefore I take the field over any dynasty for the moment.


That's why I said "could".

Lots of teams have good to elite QBs...Philadelphia has a complete team.

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Philly has a complete team, now! BUT, what is their salary cap situation and how many guys and who needs resigned? The funny thing about a super bowl is that when a team wins one, their players become highly sought after. How many players could leave for a big payday now they are champs?


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mcdaniels is the epitome of slime

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Patriots OC Josh McDaniels' agent, Bob LaMonte, has terminated his relationship with McDaniels after he decided to bail on the Colts' job.

Typically, the player/coach is the one who fires the agent; not the other way around. But LaMonte also represents Colts GM Chris Ballard and a number of other coaches and executives. LaMonte likely figures that him representing a flake like McDaniels also paints him in a bad light. Which is probably true. By bailing out on the Colts, McDaniels did what he thought was best for him.

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Boston radio is surmising one more year for BB, then his contract is over, he can success his 2 kids on the staff....then ride off

Not to leave like Parcells

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NBC Sports Boston's Tom Curran reports Bill Belichick will return as Patriots head coach for 2018 even after OC Josh McDaniels was lured out of his Colts contract.

McDaniels' stunning reversal immediately raised questions about 65-year-old Belichick's future in New England, but at least for one more year, he appears to be staying. Beyond 2018, it's quite possible McDaniels has been assured he will succeed Belichick in the immediate future. The move is eerily reminiscent of what Belichick did to the Jets in 2000


Wonder if Bill decides to leave sooner.

edit: Felger and Mazz 98.5 are analyzing the BB leaves scenario over the reason he lost the Power struggle over Kraft making football calls/BRady/Garopollo business.

they are thinking Bill is 50/50 to leave or stay - all speculation

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Interesting take up here that im coming to believe as well. This whole Josh McDaniels to the colts, yes he is, no he isnt at the last moment is a coordinated effort by Robert Kraft in retaliation to the Colts for deflategate as if you remember it was the colts that blew the whistle on NE and got the whole deflategate ball rolling.


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Not surprising. Kraft/BB and crew not known for their character.

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Interesting take up here that im coming to believe as well. This whole Josh McDaniels to the colts, yes he is, no he isnt at the last moment is a coordinated effort by Robert Kraft in retaliation to the Colts for deflategate as if you remember it was the colts that blew the whistle on NE and got the whole deflategate ball rolling.


And if the Colts hire Frank Reich off the Iggles staff, Kraft's revenge amounts to handing Indy a significantly better coach, and a far better human being.


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