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 Post subject: Todd Haley on his Steelers tenure
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BY MATTHEW MARCZI FEBRUARY 14, 2018 AT 03:54 PM

If you thought that you’d heard the last of former Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley, then you’d better think again, because the Tequila Cowboy still rides in the AFC North, now with the Cleveland Browns.

For most, six seasons of hearing him talk was enough, but as long as he remains with the Browns, we are still occasionally going to get to hear from him. Earlier today, for example, he spoke to reporters for the first time since signing on with the team, and he had some things to say about his time in Pittsburgh, as would be expected.

“I had six really good years in Pittsburgh. I was brought in to do a job, [and] I feel like I did that job, or more”, he began. He said that he and the offense “did a lot of really good things. We developed arguably the best receiver in the league. We developed arguably the best back in the league. One of the top quarterbacks in the league consistently. Did a lot of really good things, scored a lot of points”.

“I’m really fond of my time there. It’s a place that meant a lot to me”, Haley continued, talking about how his father, Dick Haley, played for the team in the early 1960s and later was their director of player personnel for three decades from 1971 to 1990. “To be able to go to Pittsburgh and have six really good years was really something that I enjoyed”, he summarized.

Haley also talked about the team that he took over when he was brought in for the 2012 season. He talked above about developing “arguably the best receiver in the league”, that being Antonio Brown. At the time, he was coming off his second season in which he caught 69 passes for 1108 yards and two touchdowns.

“When I got there, Antonio Brown wasn’t the Antonio Brown everybody knows”, Haley said. “There was great development there, and in this league, if you don’t develop players, you’re probably going to fail”. Brown became a full-time starter in his first season under Haley and caught 66 passes for 787 yards, but with five touchdowns, while being limited to 13 games. He has since developed into a perennial All-Pro.

It shouldn’t be surprising that Haley was also asked about his relationship with quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, which is widely believed to be the primary catalyst for his departure from Pittsburgh after six seasons. “I don’t have a lot to say about it”, he said. “I do know that how I was mentored and taught early was that a coach’s job is to come in and coach the players, develop the players first and foremost. That has to be number one, and that’s really how I go about business”.

While not directly saying it, one might read between the lines that he acknowledges he might have somewhat of an abrasive approach to coaching players. Still, he added, “I’ve developed a lot of great relationships in Pittsburgh with players and staff and coaches. I have nothing but fond memories”.

Haley also framed his exit from his prior organization in a way that is probably disingenuous at best. “After sitting down and talking, it was time for me to move on to a new challenge”, he said, which I guess is a euphemism for “they wanted to go with a different person for my job”


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That article was like a steak from Hoss's...I was really hoping it'd be juicier.


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You didnt like the part where he took credit for developing AB??

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You didnt like the part where he took credit for developing AB??

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Yeah. That was slimy. Mann had a lot to do with it. And the history of the position with the steelers.

But it was clear he and BR aren't best of buds.

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Haley did an outstanding job developing both players and scheme. Really turned an underachieving offense into one producing something near its capabilities. God help us if Tomlin is allowed to return to the WR screen now that Haley is gone.


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Louis Lipps Service wrote:
That article was like a steak from Hoss's...I was really hoping it'd be juicier.


:D ....perfect


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Lynch wrote:
Haley did an outstanding job developing both players and scheme. Really turned an underachieving offense into one producing something near its capabilities. God help us if Tomlin is allowed to return to the WR screen now that Haley is gone.



Damn....I hope that play left with him.


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steelhope wrote:
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Haley did an outstanding job developing both players and scheme. Really turned an underachieving offense into one producing something near its capabilities. God help us if Tomlin is allowed to return to the WR screen now that Haley is gone.



Damn....I hope that play left with him.


I'd prefer them to throw the quick out. I hated when they ran the wr screen and there was press coverage instead of when the opposing D was in off zone.


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Lynch wrote:
Haley did an outstanding job developing both players and scheme. Really turned an underachieving offense into one producing something near its capabilities. God help us if Tomlin is allowed to return to the WR screen now that Haley is gone.


Speaking as a Tomlin detractor, this is one of the funniest things I have ever read.

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Haley and Big Ben did not see eye to eye. And wonder if the latter had something to do with the former's ouster?!

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I think Haley got Ben to get rid of the ball and that was his #1 directive. I think the overall design of the offense was good. What he did with Ben and the running game was what they asked him to. It was the play calling during the game that sucked. I'd imagine that's why they stayed in house when replacing him. The offense will stay the same. The play caller will change hopefully for the better.

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I hope Tomlin got all the wr screens out of his system during the pro bowl. Rooney had to order him to stop forcing BS like that into Haley's game, and he did stop about midway through the season. We all know Haley is close with Rooney, and unfortunaty, he had to use that relationship to protect the product he put on the field. Let's hope the Fich is able to operate on his own, without calling in any favors.


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Lynch wrote:
I hope Tomlin got all the wr screens out of his system during the pro bowl. Rooney had to order him to stop forcing BS like that into Haley's game, and he did stop about midway through the season. We all know Haley is close with Rooney, and unfortunaty, he had to use that relationship to protect the product he put on the field. Let's hope the Fich is able to operate on his own, without calling in any favors.

:roll:

Okay explain why we didn't do WR screens when Tomlin was HC and Arians was OC. Funny how the WR screens appeared when Haley did, and disappeared mid season as Haley was being phased out.

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I hope Tomlin got all the wr screens out of his system during the pro bowl. Rooney had to order him to stop forcing BS like that into Haley's game, and he did stop about midway through the season. We all know Haley is close with Rooney, and unfortunaty, he had to use that relationship to protect the product he put on the field. Let's hope the Fich is able to operate on his own, without calling in any favors.

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Okay explain why we didn't do WR screens when Tomlin was HC and Arians was OC. Funny how the WR screens appeared when Haley did, and disappeared mid season as Haley was being phased out.

They did a few WR screens with Arians-- in Super Bowl XLIII, for example, with Santonio. But it was a changeup here and there, not a one-note samba.

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Lynch wrote:
I hope Tomlin got all the wr screens out of his system during the pro bowl. Rooney had to order him to stop forcing BS like that into Haley's game, and he did stop about midway through the season. We all know Haley is close with Rooney, and unfortunaty, he had to use that relationship to protect the product he put on the field. Let's hope the Fich is able to operate on his own, without calling in any favors.


I guess Mike Tomlin was telling Haley what to do in 2009. The INFLUENCE this guy has, I tell you...being able to boss Haley around before he ever came here.

https://247sports.com/nfl/kansas-city-c ... -104672696

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If you've watched the Chiefs at all this season, you know they like to run slip screens to their wide receivers. It's a basic play – the receiver takes a couple of steps up the field, faking a route, and then pulls up to catch a quick pass. If executed correctly, blockers flowing from the middle of the field will clear a lane for the receiver to run. If the receiver has any speed, open-field running skills or can make a defender miss, there's the potential for a big play.


Now Lynch, your game has been fun, but it's old and it's tired.

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And here's another one. I guess Tomlin's been influencing Haley from the get-go.

http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and-eve ... 39fae60b7b

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Two plays later, Warner found Anquan Boldin on the Cards’ PATENTED wide receiver screen for a five-yard touchdown and a collective sigh of relief.

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 Post subject: Re: Todd Haley on his Steelers tenure
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Of course this narcissistic putz is going to toot his own horn. What a fucking douche. Glad this fucktard is history. Never wanted to see a coaching change more in my football fandom history than this one. Good Fucking Riddance re:Todd. Hope your lack of success continues with your new team.


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You guys gotta be fuckin kidding me!?!?!? Do you not remember Tomlin running a bazillion wr screens to Ward alone? I KNOW KC does.


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Wasn't that towards the end of Hines' career when they were trying to get him to 1000 catches? I think it was...


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 Post subject: Re: Todd Haley on his Steelers tenure
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Sure, El caught his fair share too. Point is, though Haley did run a few with the cards and chiefs, Tomlin is the wr screen addict, running far more than Haley could ever concieve of. Not sure why some of you insist on continued lies to self. Tomlin was the problem here, not Haley.


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Let the Cleveland WR screen count begin. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Todd Haley on his Steelers tenure
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Sure, El caught his fair share too. Point is, though Haley did run a few with the cards and chiefs, Tomlin is the wr screen addict, running far more than Haley could ever concieve of. Not sure why some of you insist on continued lies to self. Tomlin was the problem here, not Haley.

Seems like a recurring theme in your posts that no matter what the white guy is good & the black guy is bad. Meanwhile, AB has the genetics (his father was a star receiver in arena football)l & the work ethic & desire to develop his talent to become the best. I'm not surprised that Haley's takes credit


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Sure, El caught his fair share too. Point is, though Haley did run a few with the cards and chiefs, Tomlin is the wr screen addict, running far more than Haley could ever concieve of. Not sure why some of you insist on continued lies to self. Tomlin was the problem here, not Haley.


I hope you get all of this anonymous posting out of your system, Todd.

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Sure, El caught his fair share too. Point is, though Haley did run a few with the cards and chiefs, Tomlin is the wr screen addict, running far more than Haley could ever concieve of. Not sure why some of you insist on continued lies to self. Tomlin was the problem here, not Haley.


The KC story complained about how Haley ran incessant WR screens.

The Arizona story mentioned the “PATENTED WR screen”. That’s a synonym for “SIGNATURE WR screen”...meaning it was a play Haley was known for calling.

So it was more than just “a few times here or there”.

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Sure, El caught his fair share too. Point is, though Haley did run a few with the cards and chiefs, Tomlin is the wr screen addict, running far more than Haley could ever concieve of. Not sure why some of you insist on continued lies to self. Tomlin was the problem here, not Haley.


The KC story complained about how Haley ran incessant WR screens.

The Arizona story mentioned the “PATENTED WR screen”. That’s a synonym for “SIGNATURE WR screen”...meaning it was a play Haley was known for calling.

So it was more than just “a few times here or there”.


But it's fun to watch someone post themselves onto the horns of a dilemma.

On the one horn, Lynch knows he's full of shit, in which case he's an obvious troll.

On the other horn, Lynch is an idiot to be pitied for believing demonstrably wrong and stupid things.

I wonder which horn he prefers to embrace.

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