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 Post subject: Colbert says ILB class is “lean”
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:47 pm 
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I predict Timmons AND another ILB are brought in via FA. He sounds like he would rather focus on other positions.

Im still holding out hope for Tre Boston too.

Just think, you walk into the room on draft day with the two biggest weaknesses taken care of. Then you can start thinking about a good edge player, $backer, depth on the DL, Bryant’s successor, Ramon foster’s successor, or a good receiving back.

Lots of good options if they double dip on a deep FA ILB class.

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 Post subject: Re: Colbert says ILB class is “lean”
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:54 pm 
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I will be stunned if KC does not add a ILB early in FA


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 Post subject: Re: Colbert says ILB class is “lean”
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:44 am 
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Lean? If he means that they're smaller than they used to be I agree. But if he means lean as in this class doesn't have much to offer he's smoking a really good strand.

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 Post subject: Re: Colbert says ILB class is “lean”
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smithessmokin wrote:
Lean? If he means that they're smaller than they used to be I agree. But if he means lean as in this class doesn't have much to offer he's smoking a really good strand.


The full comment was that there WERE sime good talents at the top like Smith and Edmunds, but that overall there wasnt a ton of depth, and he blamed apread offenses for taking LBs and NTs off the field in college.

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 Post subject: Re: Colbert says ILB class is “lean”
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:27 am 
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Can we trust these guys to make a solid pic on the D side of the ball even if the pickens weren’t slim?

We’ve got more high picks on the D side these last several years that are total ghost on the field.


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 Post subject: Re: Colbert says ILB class is “lean”
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:29 am 
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smithessmokin wrote:
Lean? If he means that they're smaller than they used to be I agree. But if he means lean as in this class doesn't have much to offer he's smoking a really good strand.

I do think it's lean for Mack fits who can play the run and coverage. Maybe 3 or 4 I wouldn't mind. A couple of maybes.

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 Post subject: Re: Colbert says ILB class is “lean”
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:41 am 
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I think there are a bunch out there with the talent to be able to do both, but don't excel at both right now. The questions then become, can they be taught (combine/Senior Bowl interviews) and do we have the staff to do it (up in the air at this point, though they did a decent job with Timmons and Shazier, and even VW is better than what he was coming out of school)?


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 Post subject: Re: Colbert says ILB class is “lean”
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:47 am 
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That's what he's supposed to say. When everyone and their cousin knows Pittsburgh's calamity at ILB and Safety. What's he supposed to say? ILB is very deep this year and the Steelers are looking forward to the process and eventual drafting of at least 1? Coach speak as it's known around these parts. Or in this case GM speak. Not misleading anyone with that bullshit. LB'er this year's draft is one of the deepest I've seen in years. I hope to God they don't believe another year of Mitchell is the answer going forward and they seriously address safety before the draft.


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 Post subject: Re: Colbert says ILB class is “lean”
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:06 am 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
That's what he's supposed to say. When everyone and their cousin knows Pittsburgh's calamity at ILB and Safety. What's he supposed to say? ILB is very deep this year and the Steelers are looking forward to the process and eventual drafting of at least 1? Coach speak as it's known around these parts. Or in this case GM speak. Not misleading anyone with that bullshit. LB'er this year's draft is one of the deepest I've seen in years. I hope to God they don't believe another year of Mitchell is the answer going forward and they seriously address safety before the draft.

I really don't agree with that assessment, and I've been doing a deep dive into LBs this year. Guys that are actually active vs the run and workable in coverage-- not even great at one, the other, or both-- they jump out on tape because they're so rare.

I see a lot of slow to the edge, slow to react, unaware of what's behind them, washed by blockers, unable to sift through the trash, weak tacklers, inability to play the ball. Even amongst guys that are draft darlings.

If you want a guy that is above average at the run and can adequately cover a RB out of the backfield, there are A TON of those guys, yes. That's what Vince Williams does. There are more than a couple who are very good vs the run and have obvious coverage issues the moment they have to take a step away from the LOS. There are also a couple of hyped guys who are great in coverage (helps when you play in football conferences where it's all spread and quick passes) but who would cause FC to throw something through his TV because of how soft or late they are vs the run.

Yes, Steelafan, you make a good point: there may be some who can be trained to do what they are not as good at now. That's pretty risky, though, for a player you'd really like to contribute this year. Worst-case: we platoon at the Mack, between a FA who is better at one aspect and a draft pick/Matakevich who is better at the other.

In general, I think it shapes up to be a slightly below average draft, with lots of solid but unspectacular NFL players, and very little cream at the top. As Perch would say: the difference between pick 16 and pick 60 in this draft is negligible.

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 Post subject: Re: Colbert says ILB class is “lean”
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:40 am 
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It really is hard to say who might emerge as a playmaker. I realize tape is the best indicator for rookie prospects. There are usually guys that play average or even well in college and then blow up in the pros. Far and few between I know. As big as the LB'ers group is in this draft I have to believe there are several guys that while they won't jump off the scene at you at first, after some pro level coaching and development they evolve into that player desired. JMO


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