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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:52 pm 
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Would you trade Bryant and a 3rd to Sea for E Thomas?


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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Might be able to get him for just picks, depends how bad Hawks want to move him.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:30 am 
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No and No. Thomas is approaching the wrong side of 30 fast. I wouldn't trade Bryant for a guy that is likely to slow way down athletically? On top of the injury history? For what? 1, maybe 2 years? Do the Steelers even have the cap space after a trade? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seah ... omas-6523/
If they were trading for a guy around the same age as Bryant (25-26) then I would look at it differently.


Richard Sherman is all but done IMHO. Two achilles surgeries? The latest in November of 2017. Are you kidding me? He likely won't be ready to play at the start of the season. That means no camp, OTA's or preseason to acclimate himself on this team. No thanks. Some team may pick him up after his release. I hope it's not the Steelers.

And no way would I try and move Sherman to safety. He may be able to play there but dude is soft tackling. Deion Sanders soft....


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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No and No. Thomas is approaching the wrong side of 30 fast. I wouldn't trade Bryant for a guy that is likely to slow way down athletically? On top of the injury history? For what? 1, maybe 2 years? Do the Steelers even have the cap space after a trade? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seah ... omas-6523/
If they were trading for a guy around the same age as Bryant (25-26) then I would look at it differently.


Richard Sherman is all but done IMHO. Two achilles surgeries? The latest in November of 2017. Are you kidding me? He likely won't be ready to play at the start of the season. That means no camp, OTA's or preseason to acclimate himself on this team. No thanks. Some team may pick him up after his release. I hope it's not the Steelers.

And no way would I try and move Sherman to safety. He may be able to play there but dude is soft tackling. Deion Sanders soft....

77, I agree about RS being soft. He certainly isn't the "hitter" Genie thinks he is. I might be interested in Tomas for the right deal. He can still play at a top level for a few more years imo, but we would have to use him properly also to get the most out of his talents, and I'm not so sure we would.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:23 am 
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No and No. Thomas is approaching the wrong side of 30 fast. I wouldn't trade Bryant for a guy that is likely to slow way down athletically? On top of the injury history? For what? 1, maybe 2 years? Do the Steelers even have the cap space after a trade? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seah ... omas-6523/
If they were trading for a guy around the same age as Bryant (25-26) then I would look at it differently.


Richard Sherman is all but done IMHO. Two achilles surgeries? The latest in November of 2017. Are you kidding me? He likely won't be ready to play at the start of the season. That means no camp, OTA's or preseason to acclimate himself on this team. No thanks. Some team may pick him up after his release. I hope it's not the Steelers.

And no way would I try and move Sherman to safety. He may be able to play there but dude is soft tackling. Deion Sanders soft....

77, I agree about RS being soft. He certainly isn't the "hitter" Genie thinks he is. I might be interested in Tomas for the right deal. He can still play at a top level for a few more years imo, but we would have to use him properly also to get the most out of his talents, and I'm not so sure we would.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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Sherman was excellent against the pass and exceptional against the run. Not soft. Tailed off some after the injury.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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Sherman's release is official. The Seahawks are definitely blowing up the defense.

Seahawks released CB Richard Sherman.

It's the end of an era in Seattle. The Legion of Boom is undergoing mass overhaul, losing another one of its key elements. Sherman turns 30 later this month and is coming off a torn Achilles' last season. He's not 100 percent yet and also had surgery to remove a bone spur from his other heel earlier this offseason. Sherman will undoubtedly draw plenty of interest on the open market, but he has his question marks. He's largely played zone defense in Seattle, is coming off a serious injury, and is turning 30. The Patriots reportedly poked around on Sherman in trade talks last offseason and likely will have interest again this year after missing out on Aqib Talib. The Seahawks save $11 million in cap space with this move but have a huge hole in the secondary


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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Steelergenie wrote:
Sherman was excellent against the pass Ranked #1 for over 300 targets and exceptional against the run. Not soft. Tailed off some after the injury.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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I wonder if our RB/WR extraordinaire could beat Sherman in a foot race.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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I wonder if our RB/WR extraordinaire could beat Sherman in a foot race.

Right now...I could beat Sherman in a foot race.
And I’m only semi joking... :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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Stillcajun wrote:
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Steelafan77 wrote:
No and No. Thomas is approaching the wrong side of 30 fast. I wouldn't trade Bryant for a guy that is likely to slow way down athletically? On top of the injury history? For what? 1, maybe 2 years? Do the Steelers even have the cap space after a trade? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seah ... omas-6523/
If they were trading for a guy around the same age as Bryant (25-26) then I would look at it differently.


Richard Sherman is all but done IMHO. Two achilles surgeries? The latest in November of 2017. Are you kidding me? He likely won't be ready to play at the start of the season. That means no camp, OTA's or preseason to acclimate himself on this team. No thanks. Some team may pick him up after his release. I hope it's not the Steelers.

And no way would I try and move Sherman to safety. He may be able to play there but dude is soft tackling. Deion Sanders soft....

77, I agree about RS being soft. He certainly isn't the "hitter" Genie thinks he is. I might be interested in Tomas for the right deal. He can still play at a top level for a few more years imo, but we would have to use him properly also to get the most out of his talents, and I'm not so sure we would.


This^

I understand your point. Now. How do the Steelers pay him? In ketchup? In the last year of a C2 and I'm sure he'll want another big C3 type payday. No sarca just inquiring minds like to know. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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Steelafan77 wrote:
I understand your point. Now. How do the Steelers pay him? In ketchup? In the last year of a C2 and I'm sure he'll want another big C3 type payday. No sarca just inquiring minds like to know. :P


It would be difficult, but not impossible. If we do get cap relief for Shaz, and Mitchell, Wilcox and Gay are gone, that's almost $19m right there. Bring back Wilcox for $1-2m (maybe), sign rookie class at $5-6m and there should still be room. I know, lots of ifs, but it could happen. I'm sure it's likely just me window shopping though. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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Signs with 49ers for 13M per year for 3 years in incentive laden deal. Too rich for the Steelers. Went in one day.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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how has he signed? is this like a verbal agreement until the 14th?

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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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He's agreed to it. Maybe not signed yet.

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how has he signed? is this like a verbal agreement until the 14th?


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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Sherman's full guarantee on the deal is only $3 million in the form of a signing bonus. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... with-49ers
$3Mil to an aged, rehabbing [2nd achilles injury] corner who avoids contact when ever possible. Was never real fast to begin with. Hell of a gamble by 49'ers GM Lynch.


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Sherman's full guarantee on the deal is only $3 million in the form of a signing bonus. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... with-49ers
$3Mil to an aged, rehabbing [2nd achilles injury] corner who avoids contact when ever possible. Was never real fast to begin with. Hell of a gamble by 49'ers GM Lynch.


Agreed. If it weren't for the hot finish last year, you could chalk it up to signing a big name to drum up enthusiasm, but hey, not a huge risk for a young team, with a high reward for a couple of years, maybe, if it pays off. Think (and I know it's not exactly apples to apples) what we'd look like on the back end without the Haden pickup before last season.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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This is worse than James Harrison going to the Patriots. This is Antonio Brown going to the Bengals or Hines Ward going to the Ravens.

Actually, this is Sidney Crosby going to the Flyers.

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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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This is worse than James Harrison going to the Patriots. This is Antonio Brown going to the Bengals or Hines Ward going to the Ravens.

Actually, this is Sidney Crosby going to the Flyers.


I live in Seattle and this is pretty spot on. Sherman made the biggest play in the franchise history (the NFCCG that season was the Super Bowl that year), against the 9ers with Kaepernick at the helm.

The pass at the one yard line against the Pats is the single dumbest play in NFL history. Give the ball to Lynch and they win back to back; which would make all of these giant contracts they paid there defensive guys during their “run” a little easier to cope with. You can’t build a defense like that and expect it to last forever. All you can do is hope to bring home the hardware while the pieces are there.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
This is worse than James Harrison going to the Patriots. This is Antonio Brown going to the Bengals or Hines Ward going to the Ravens.

Actually, this is Sidney Crosby going to the Flyers.


I'd think the Philly Faithless would still boo him :lol:

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