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 Post subject: Re: NFL, players agree to suspend national anthem policy
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:56 pm 
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jebrick wrote:
By all rights they should be firing the protestors but that means crippling their teams which costs them money and fans.


But the NFL has other options. Fines, increasing in severity, even possible suspensions. Keep the players in the locker room. Drop the Anthem all together.

Goodell does seem like simply too much of a pussy to stand-up to the players. But I think it might be more the case that he's being drawn into a pissing match with Trump, and being trolled into making dumb decisions (which is what Trump tends to do to people).

And although Goodell has never impressed me as being this savvy, there's also a possibility that he's going to let this simmer as something he can "give" to the NFLPA in the next contract negotiation. Because most of the owners will GLADLY let players kneel if it means 1% more revenue share for them. Probably also why they haven't taken marijuana off the banned list yet - why give it away for free with the next CBA coming up in just a few years?

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 Post subject: Re: NFL, players agree to suspend national anthem policy
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:39 pm 
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Jobus Rum wrote:
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Our taxpayer dollars should not be going to the NFL to make players come out to the sidelines for the National Anthem. The NFL should stop accepting those payments * and the players stay in the locker room, and this goes away.

* :lol: I know. Those greedy money-grubbers voluntarily passing on every last nickel they could get?

The NFL is a business. Some of you guys start wrapping your mind around that and you’ll be less upset about their “practices”.
Or maybe not...

If you are a small start-up business and you're struggling, you might find yourself taking contracts you don't like because you need the income. When you get to be a multi-billion dollar enterprise, you can be a little discriminating. Is the military's money to make the players come out and stand for the anthem going to make or break the NFL? I don't think so.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL, players agree to suspend national anthem policy
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:40 pm 
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Kodiak wrote:
jebrick wrote:
By all rights they should be firing the protestors but that means crippling their teams which costs them money and fans.


But the NFL has other options. Fines, increasing in severity, even possible suspensions. Keep the players in the locker room. Drop the Anthem all together.

Goodell does seem like simply too much of a pussy to stand-up to the players. But I think it might be more the case that he's being drawn into a pissing match with Trump, and being trolled into making dumb decisions (which is what Trump tends to do to people).

And although Goodell has never impressed me as being this savvy, there's also a possibility that he's going to let this simmer as something he can "give" to the NFLPA in the next contract negotiation. Because most of the owners will GLADLY let players kneel if it means 1% more revenue share for them. Probably also why they haven't taken marijuana off the banned list yet - why give it away for free with the next CBA coming up in just a few years?


The NFL owners are in a no win situation with this and Trump. Keep them in the locker room. Trump talks about being unAmerican. Do not do the Anthem. UnAmerican. Players protest. UnAmerican. Players do not protest and stand for the Anthem. Trump touts how he saved American by forcing unAmerican football players to heel.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL, players agree to suspend national anthem policy
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:20 pm 
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jebrick wrote:
The NFL owners are in a no win situation with this and Trump. Keep them in the locker room. Trump talks about being unAmerican. Do not do the Anthem. UnAmerican. Players protest. UnAmerican. Players do not protest and stand for the Anthem. Trump touts how he saved American by forcing unAmerican football players to heel.


Trump will probably have the CIA set-up the Cheatriots with the latest spy tech....because you KNOW Belicheat and Brady will be all too happy to visit the White House. So I guess the Steelers are fucked :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: NFL, players agree to suspend national anthem policy
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:27 pm 
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Yeah, this is dumb. If it were my business, it's simply "no politics". Feel free to use your own celebrity and own personal time to promote your causes....but gameday is not the place for it.

Then take the politics out of the workplace, owners!

no anthem, no problem


Exactly! we don't need the anthem! I DVR every game, so I can fast forward past all the pregame CRAP including the anthem, WE DON'T NEED IT! and every game doesn't have to be a tribute to "the troops" either. Honor some teachers or EMTs sometimes instead.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL, players agree to suspend national anthem policy
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:19 pm 
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Nick79 wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Kodiak wrote:
Yeah, this is dumb. If it were my business, it's simply "no politics". Feel free to use your own celebrity and own personal time to promote your causes....but gameday is not the place for it.

Then take the politics out of the workplace, owners!

no anthem, no problem


Exactly! we don't need the anthem! I DVR every game, so I can fast forward past all the pregame CRAP including the anthem, WE DON'T NEED IT! and every game doesn't have to be a tribute to "the troops" either. Honor some teachers or EMTs sometimes instead.


Some of us like the anthem, Nick...both on TV and in-person.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL, players agree to suspend national anthem policy
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:28 pm 
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Louis Lipps Service wrote:
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NFL, players agree to suspend controversial national anthem policy

The National Football League and the players association said in a joint statement Thursday that it has made the decision to freeze the controversial national anthem protest policy. Two months ago, the league announced players must stand for the anthem or remain in the locker while it’s performed. Now, the policy has been suspended to allow “constructive dialogue to continue.”


It's incredible how bad the NFL is at figuring this shit out.

Their policies are 100% reactive with absolutely no forethought for future ramifications.

Like every hospital... Ever...


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 Post subject: Re: NFL, players agree to suspend national anthem policy
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:10 pm 
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The NFL has contributed to their own problem in this one. Money is the sole motivation here. The players know it, we know it and the NFL knows it. Just return to the practices of leaving every team in the locker room as the Anthem is played. That way players can protest all they want without the cameras, in the privacy of their locker room. Problem Solved!

Obviously players that participate in these actions don't give a shit about what their franchises and/or fans think. Their selfish actions speak louder than any words can. Players have shown their loyalty to their franchises and fans by thinking of themselves first. As a Fan I say, protest all you want; outside of the uniform and national television.


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