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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:23 pm 
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You can't fix stupid. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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I told my buddy the other day that the Jags wouldn’t even make the playoffs this year.
One playoff season and they think the are a dynasty.

I think the opposite. I believe they have a great chance to come out of the AFC if the QB doesn't fuck it up.


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if the QB doesn't fuck it up.


Significant if. Especially considering an improved Texans team, if Luck gets back an improvement in the Colts, and a 1st vs last place schedule.


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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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Suwanee88 wrote:
if the QB doesn't fuck it up.


Significant if. Especially considering an improved Texans team, if Luck gets back an improvement in the Colts, and a 1st vs last place schedule.

No question, but a sound team all around that could carry the QB.


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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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Their QB is playing a whole lot better than he was at the start of 2016.

NE-PIT-JAX
HOU-LAC
OAK-KC-BUF-CLE-BAL
TEN-IND-CIN-DEN-NYJ
MIA

That's how I have the AFC tiers.

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MIN-LAR
ATL-NO-GB-DAL-SF-CAR-DET
WAS-SEA-CHI-NYG
TB-AZ

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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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Who the fuck is Ramsey?

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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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Who the fuck is Ramsey?

Exactly...and who really gives a shit?

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Who the fuck is Ramsey?

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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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Non story. Any cornerback could say the same for any quarterback. Come on September 9th....


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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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Who the fuck is Ramsey?

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:lol:

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another ass heard from but who cares


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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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I've seen Wrasslin enough to know when someone is promoting themselves.


This.

I didn't know his name until now...I'll likely forget it before morning.

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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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you guys are NFL fans and havent heard of Jalen Ramsey? Anyway. He just got suspended a week by the Jags brass for conduct unbecoming and as soon as he's out of the clink he starts spouting off again. Hes really blossoming into a full on diva. Coughlin is not happy.

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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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Jalen Ramsey QB tiers:
Great: Brady/Rodgers (Duh)
Future MVPs: Watson/Wentz
Good: Brees/Wilson/Carr
Winner: Cousins (?)
Great in Situation: Mariota (?)
Solid: Stafford
Decent: Big Ben/Dak
Not Sure: Jimmy G
Overrated: Ryan
Average: Goff
Sucks: Luck


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He actually crushed Joey Flacco too :lol:
Yeah. I am going to listen to his educated opinion. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:04 am 
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Ramsey's perspective is skewed greatly - seems to be based solely on how those QB's fared against his team. Ben, overall, didn't fare well against the Jags. The regular season loss was abysmal, and his WR's didn't have great games as a unit. The playoff loss, Ben basically spotted them 14 points. From any defender's point of view, the QB is liable. Not right/wrong - just skewed.

Doug Marrone is a solid coach, and he's getting help from Tom Coughlin - the Jags will be a solid outfit for a few years. They may not be 12-4, but they are loaded with size, talent, and speed. The QB & WR corps are where they have the least talent. Everywhere else, they're blue chipped.

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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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Ramsey's perspective is skewed greatly - seems to be based solely on how those QB's fared against his team. Ben, overall, didn't fare well against the Jags. The regular season loss was abysmal, and his WR's didn't have great games as a unit. The playoff loss, Ben basically spotted them 14 points. From any defender's point of view, the QB is liable. Not right/wrong - just skewed.

Doug Marrone is a solid coach, and he's getting help from Tom Coughlin - the Jags will be a solid outfit for a few years. They may not be 12-4, but they are loaded with size, talent, and speed. The QB & WR corps are where they have the least talent. Everywhere else, they're blue chipped.


This goes to show you how much a QBs C2 salary can affect a team. Right now the Jags are where the Seahawks were 6 years ago- great defense (below average offense). The ironic part is if they went out and upgraded the QB position and added some top 25 WRs then the rest of the team would not be as good- just like the Seahawks now.

I thought what the Rams did in the offseason was akin to salary cap black magic until I realized that most of the real talent on that team was (at the time) still on rookie deals. That is a HUGE advantage when you have your QB of the future, your ALL PRO RB of the future, and at least one threat at the WR position on a rookie deal. That team is going to be a total trainwreck of personalities but hats off to them for going for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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Who the fuck is Ramsey?

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Awesome. That guy is a true Psychopath.


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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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I love all of the negative attention the Jags are bringing on themselves.

I feel a Blake Bortles implosion.... 8-8 kind of season coming.


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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Their QB is playing a whole lot better than he was at the start of 2016.

NE-PIT-JAX
HOU-LAC
OAK-KC-BUF-CLE-BAL
TEN-IND-CIN-DEN-NYJ
MIA

That's how I have the AFC tiers.

PHI
MIN-LAR
ATL-NO-GB-DAL-SF-CAR-DET
WAS-SEA-CHI-NYG
TB-AZ


Outside of the Titans, your AFC tiers are spot on in my opinion. May argue the Bungles will be in the bottom tier as well. I think they are going to be absolute garbage this year.


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 Post subject: Re: Ramsey Rips Ben
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44LetzRide wrote:
Ramsey's perspective is skewed greatly - seems to be based solely on how those QB's fared against his team. Ben, overall, didn't fare well against the Jags. The regular season loss was abysmal, and his WR's didn't have great games as a unit. The playoff loss, Ben basically spotted them 14 points. From any defender's point of view, the QB is liable. Not right/wrong - just skewed.

I disagree - it’s one thing to be skewed (he is actually on the mark when he says Ben was disappointing in the Jags games last year) but it’s something else entirely to say this

“It’s not Big Ben, it’s [Antonio Brown]. Big Ben slings the ball a lot of the time. He just slings it, and his receivers go get it. He has a strong arm, but he ain’t all that.”

Ben has made many, many receivers look good over the years and very few that have left have looked anywhere near as good with another QB. Emanuel Sanders, Plaxico and maybe Santonio are really the only ones to do anything special after leaving Ben. On the other hand how many JAGs has Ben made look special - Ced Wilson, Randel El, Nate Washington, etc. Mike Wallace looked like a HOFer with Ben and has been totally hit or miss since leaving and Cotch had an amazing comeback when teamed up with Ben.

It’s hard to say how good even the great ones like Hines & Brown would have been had they been with someone else - their work ethic would likely have carrier them but I’d argue that Ben put them over the top into another level.


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