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 Post subject: Re: Preseason Week 2 Steelers vs Packers Game Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:57 pm 
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AF Stiller Fan wrote:
I'll withhold judgement on the defense until I see the actual defense they'll be running and with the starters playing. Because it just has to be better than what we saw yesterday.


And lets hope in this next PS game, they work in some of the new packages we have been hearing about, ironing out what players in what packages, green dot, play calls, communication, execution, etc.

As opposed to using the first quarter of the season to experiment in actual games.

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 Post subject: Re: Preseason Week 2 Steelers vs Packers Game Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:50 pm 
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Conner and Washington are the real deal. Samuels behind. I wish the D had bonafide playmakers like the O does.

Don't forget they're intentionally working Samuels at the stuff he does worst... I think they're in it for the long haul with him.

His best work will be running routes/catching balls and running the ball from the slot. That's his #1 gig. Right now, they're having him pass protect, leak from the backfield, run HB screens... these are all things he did rarely in college.

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 Post subject: Re: Preseason Week 2 Steelers vs Packers Game Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:12 pm 
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Conner looks tough as nails. Dude has guns.


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 Post subject: Re: Preseason Week 2 Steelers vs Packers Game Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:46 pm 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
COR-TEN wrote:
Conner and Washington are the real deal. Samuels behind. I wish the D had bonafide playmakers like the O does.

Don't forget they're intentionally working Samuels at the stuff he does worst... I think they're in it for the long haul with him.

His best work will be running routes/catching balls and running the ball from the slot. That's his #1 gig. Right now, they're having him pass protect, leak from the backfield, run HB screens... these are all things he did rarely in college.
I get it. I have faith in samuels. They are grooming him. They know he's good in space and has his head screwed on straight. They're giving him work in areas he didn't really engage in while in college. I have no doubt the RB corps is A OK even if Bell doesn't show up. Those guys are the future. I've always said Conner had some shit, only was raw and young. Didn't get enough playing time.

I wonder if Bell is getting nervous.

I would if I were him.

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 Post subject: Re: Preseason Week 2 Steelers vs Packers Game Thread
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Haven't seen much of anything from Conner in the passing game/pass pro... but, wow, he looks like a new man running the ball.

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 Post subject: Re: Preseason Week 2 Steelers vs Packers Game Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:22 pm 
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OK...I’m going to be THAT guy. Let me start by saying that I liked Samuels coming out of NCSt...was happy as a puppy with two Peters that the Steelers drafted him.
But let’s be real...this is the Steelers we are talking about. We know what they do, and how they work. As much as we would like to believe, they aren’t and won’t change their business model. They are not “grooming” Jalen Samuels for anything other than to see if he’s good enough to make the roster. As of right now, he’s not.
Let’s face facts...Bell, Conner, and Ridley are locks. If...a big if, they decide to keep four, FT is likely the guy. Regardless of how we feel about Fitz, Tomlin and his staff love him, and he has done nothing so far to play himself off the roster.
Things can change, obviously, but sitting here right now, the best case for Samuels is the practice squad.

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 Post subject: Re: Preseason Week 2 Steelers vs Packers Game Thread
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Jobus Rum wrote:
Things can change, obviously, but sitting here right now, the best case for Samuels is the practice squad.


Yup.

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 Post subject: Re: Preseason Week 2 Steelers vs Packers Game Thread
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Still Lit wrote:
Jobus Rum wrote:
Things can change, obviously, but sitting here right now, the best case for Samuels is the practice squad.


Yup.

No way. Samuels is splitting time with the 1s in practice. Not going to be cut.

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 Post subject: Re: Preseason Week 2 Steelers vs Packers Game Thread
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AF Stiller Fan wrote:
I'll withhold judgement on the defense until I see the actual defense they'll be running and with the starters playing.


I agree, we won't really know until the real bullets fly.

Having said that...

If neither Bostic or Burnett turn out to be winning pieces, that will be a problem.

We really need Burnett to impact this defense.


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 Post subject: Re: Preseason Week 2 Steelers vs Packers Game Thread
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Not too worried. Seems to me we played GB with about 55% of our starters while they were using about 80% of theirs. We gave them 14 points on two plays by our QB 3&4.

On D, I've seen the biggest improvements from Walton (biggest jump), Alualu, big Dan and Hooks. Dunbar is such a welcome change over Mitchell. That dude set us back 5 years.

On O, Conners has made a huge leap. I wonder if Samuels is our combo RB4/WR6. Washington and Chuks are everything I thought they'd be.

ILB will be exploited by the good teams/coaches. That Ravens rook TE, H. Hurst, is the real deal and going to be a beast. He'll have a very short learning curve due to his age/maturity. Watch out.


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 Post subject: Re: Preseason Week 2 Steelers vs Packers Game Thread
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Jobus Rum wrote:
Things can change, obviously, but sitting here right now, the best case for Samuels is the practice squad.


Yup.

No way. Samuels is splitting time with the 1s in practice. Not going to be cut.


Agree.
I didn't notice, but did he play on any ST's? That will increase his value and hopefully send Frenchy packing for good


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