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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:37 am 
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cap savings of $5,631,000 if Allen is cut after June 1 and before he earns his $3M roster bonus.

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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:08 am 
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On the positive end....he had damn near perfect coverage on that 3rd & 11, had the receiver pinned to the sideline. It took an absolutely perfect fuckin' throw from Luck to complete that ball. And....he did make a nice play to deflect a pass that had 6 points written on it.


I think the kid will come around. I really do.

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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:12 am 
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swissvale72 wrote:
On the positive end....he had damn near perfect coverage on that 3rd & 11, had the receiver pinned to the sideline. It took an absolutely perfect fuckin' throw from Luck to complete that ball. And....he did make a nice play to deflect a pass that had 6 points written on it.


I think the kid will come around. I really do.


I don't see Tez look for the ball....hardly ever. That is disturbing. Right now, let McCain and Blake play. Cannot be any worse.

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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:14 am 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
cap savings of $5,631,000 if Allen is cut after June 1 and before he earns his $3M roster bonus.


Thanks B2B --

Looks like we have a good "out" on this deal if he can't get his shit together.

We should not hesitate to cut his ass after June 1 -- cap ramifications won't stop us, thank god


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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:50 pm 
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I said months ago that Allen is a JAG. He is the worst corner that gets playing time, and they extend him. They panicked and now they are stuck with this bum for at least 2 more seasons.
They better draft 2 corners in the first 4 rounds this draft.


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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:59 pm 
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He was awful and may need to see some pine but im not ready yet to give up on hi. You can see he has the physical skills. I really believe at somepoint light will go on for him. A good start would be to turn around and find the ball, too often hes in great position but simply has zero clue where the ball is.


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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:27 pm 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
cap savings of $5,631,000 if Allen is cut after June 1 and before he earns his $3M roster bonus.



I pray that if he doesn't make a complete turn around they cut him, and don't waste that kind of money on a position of dire need. If he is still sucking cut Him, pay a FA and draft 2 corners in the top four picks in the draft. 1,and 3, or 2, and 3.


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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:43 pm 
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I'll be shocked if Cortez gets cut during the offseason. They'll hold onto him for another season in the hopes that he gets his shit together. Book it.

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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:47 pm 
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I'll be shocked if Cortez gets cut during the offseason. They'll hold onto him for another season in the hopes that he gets his shit together. Book it.


I'm fine with him serving the secondary Gatorade this weekend as opposed to stepping onto the field. He was the Colts MVP.

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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:23 pm 
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Still Lit wrote:
I'll be shocked if Cortez gets cut during the offseason. They'll hold onto him for another season in the hopes that he gets his shit together. Book it.


Ummm -- I would NOT book it --

If Cortez doesn't turn his shit around THIS YEAR, he is GONE NEXT YEAR
(assuming B2B is right about cap hit) --

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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:22 pm 
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steel wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
I'll be shocked if Cortez gets cut during the offseason. They'll hold onto him for another season in the hopes that he gets his shit together. Book it.


Ummm -- I would NOT book it --

If Cortez doesn't turn his shit around THIS YEAR, he is GONE NEXT YEAR
(assuming B2B is right about cap hit) --

Book THAT


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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:09 pm 
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Which Munchkin do you guys like better, Blake or McCain? I need to see more of them to know.


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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
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swissvale72 wrote:
On the positive end....he had damn near perfect coverage on that 3rd & 11, had the receiver pinned to the sideline. It took an absolutely perfect fuckin' throw from Luck to complete that ball. And....he did make a nice play to deflect a pass that had 6 points written on it.

Swiss- I remember that play if its the one I am thinking of - dont think he actually touched that ball - clanked off the receiver's hands.


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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
cap savings of $5,631,000 if Allen is cut after June 1 and before he earns his $3M roster bonus.

Thanks for posting this....knowing this - if he sucks as bad as he has, I would do this. They seem to have luck finding serviceable free agents and go back to the draft next year to try again - I highly doubt they do this though.


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 Post subject: Re: Cortez Allen
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Suwanee88 wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
cap savings of $5,631,000 if Allen is cut after June 1 and before he earns his $3M roster bonus.

Thanks for posting this....knowing this - if he sucks as bad as he has, I would do this. They seem to have luck finding serviceable free agents and go back to the draft next year to try again - I highly doubt they do this though.


It might be a long shot to cut Allen, but it's not completely out of the question

Why?

Cap hit won't be bad

We cut Woodley this year, so I know they have the guts to cut guys who are still young

McCain/Blake both appear to be competent. With Gay/Taylor and a high draft pick next year, we have a decent CB core group.

If McCain/Blake continue to improve and play well, and If Allen CONTINUES to suck balls, and not get better this year, I say it's a 50/50 chance we cut him next year


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