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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:38 pm 
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Wouldn't shock me if Justin Brown is the guy that gets cut when Jarvis returns.

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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:43 pm 
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Great write up Perch and great call on the game B2B.

Levels of surprise:
Astronomical = Offensive Line dominating in pass pro
High = Consistent pressure from Harrison off the edge
Medium = Bryant already a legit weapon
Low = Ben playing that well behind a dominant Oline and with top notch weapons

FWIW - that's the best i've ever seen the ball coming out of Ben's hand. He was spinning it.

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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:00 pm 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
next week is the defense's turn to shock the world

Hopefully the defense can find ways to get better each and every week.

We knew it was going to be tuff to stop Inday and Luck.......
after all that team still put up 34 points, 24 first downs, almost 500 yards of offense?........in less than 21 minutes of play.

Yesterday we certainly saw the deficiencies of our secondary.........but we saw the coaching changes to try and hide or offset those shortcomings........with the relentless blitz and pass rush.
Not only the 15 hurrys...but the 9 knock downs.
How many of those blitzes resulted in Luck throwing the ball out of bounds............or directly into the turf.
He could have legitametly had 4 intentional grounding flags.........as there was zero intent on completing a pass for threee of the intentional spikes.

But one can certainly look at the positives about this defense...........and see things that can only help improve that side of the balls performance. Remember, this defense has been playing with-out 4 starters and finally got one back in Shazier yesterday. The other three will be back. I think there are many teams that have lost players for the year.........we will continue to add them back to the mix.

1. Steve Mac will be back in the mix.....hopefully this Sunday making the Dline deeper. While bringing back our best penetrationg lineman.
2. Big Dan continues to take baby steps (is that an oxymoron?) that has helped the run defense and helped keep the C/G from jumping our LB's
3. Tuit continues to get reps.......had a real nice hard hit on Luck yesterday. I'm sure things will be alot clearer after the bye and down the strech. Can't wait till he stops thinking and just plays.
4. Maybe with the above three..........Cam Thomas can play less......and Keisel can stay fresher. With the addition of Big Dan and the ensuing return of Steve Mac.....gotta believe Thomas is playing for a helmet on Sundays.
5. Shazier will get healthier.........and his speed will remind us of his ability to make impact plays and or turnovers. He closed on a pass yesterday....that if 100% healthy could have been going the other way.
6. Jarvis will be back in the mix.........another guy still growing, that seems to be around the ball more so than not.....working in the weight room with James can only help.
7. Ike will be back in the mix..............to help the secondary down the strech.
8. Shamarko will be back in the mix.........................to help the secondary the second half of the season. Another guy that when on the field, seems to have a nose for the ball.
9. James Harrison is still playing his way into shape. Looked slow the first game or so....not as slow yesterday. I thnk he can still lose 5-8-10 lbs that will make a difference in his pass rush.
10. Familiarity...................Tuit, Thomas, Big Dan, Shazier, Moats, Blake, McCain, Williams, Mitchell, Shamarko, Spence..............thats a lot of players that see the field that are playing with one another for the first time. That have less than 5-8 games under their belt as a pro footbal player....that have less than a full season worth of games as teammates, etc. etc. They will grow as a unit in the second half as they spend more time together on the practice field, in games, in packages and in crunch moments. I like the flexibility that this team can put on the field when all are healthy.

The defense can certainly be better and i think will certainly get better each week. Its still a work in progress. I stilll think we draft more defensive players in the next draft....as drafting two corners is a must.

But rhe last thing that I will add to that list that will have the defense looking forward and improving in the second half..................will be the continued growth and attacking style of the offense.

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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:04 pm 
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Was anyone else surprised by the number of snaps Vince Williams seemed to have played defensively? I'd be interested to find out how many snaps he actually played.


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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:09 pm 
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The Pierogi wrote:
Was anyone else surprised by the number of snaps Vince Williams seemed to have played defensively? I'd be interested to find out how many snaps he actually played.

stuffed potato,
i think it looked like Shazier may have felt his knee bite on a play or two.................so mixing in Vince Williams a bit more in the second half was probably to lomit Shaz snaps?
Williams was noticable.

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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:15 pm 
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Stosh-67 wrote:
The Pierogi wrote:
Was anyone else surprised by the number of snaps Vince Williams seemed to have played defensively? I'd be interested to find out how many snaps he actually played.

stuffed potato,
i think it looked like Shazier may have felt his knee bite on a play or two.................so mixing in Vince Williams a bit more in the second half was probably to lomit Shaz snaps?
Williams was noticable.


I figured it might have had something to do with Shazier coming off his injury. It just struck me as a little bit odd that it was Williams on the field after Spence seemed to have played a pretty solid game against the Texans. I guess maybe Williams is a better blitzer?


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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:17 pm 
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one more comment on the defense...........
obviously Cortez needs to sit and watch............
but not be burried on the bench................we know he was effective in the slot on TE's and slot WR's.............
hopefully he can gain his confidence back in limited snaps...as opposed to being out on an island..............

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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wouldn't shock me if Justin Brown is the guy that gets cut when Jarvis returns.


Really? I'd cut Lance Moore before J Brown, just not sold on Moore at this point and Brown has some upside.

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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:12 pm 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
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FC: Hey Ed, appreciate your work...Is Justin Brown completely out of favor - with MB and Moore stepping it up seems like there's not much room.

Ed Bouchette: Not so much out of favor, but the others have passed him by. I'm still not sure why Darrius Heyward-Bey is playing, though.


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DHB plays teams and actually plays them pretty well. I have no idea why he can't return kicks though...

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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wouldn't shock me if Justin Brown is the guy that gets cut when Jarvis returns.


Really? I'd cut Lance Moore before J Brown, just not sold on Moore at this point and Brown has some upside.

Moore has made four catches in last three games that demonstrated savvy, route running, and above all toughness that Justin Brown simply isn't capable of talent wise. Use Moore for now, draft/sign another big body and another slot guy next year.

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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
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I think the defense already shocked us yesterday...if Cortez Allen make a just a couple of plays we completely layed a smack down on the colts...


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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:49 pm 
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Very classy move on Ikes part. So is purple the color for domestic violence?? I did not know that.


Gay is a very humble, great guy. And that TD dance was pure gold. Was that a deer prance? I thought Keisel was about to start a conga line behind him. :lol:

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haha I never noticed Keiesel starting to dance as well.


It was on the point of being a flag for Kiesel joining in.

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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:52 pm 
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Stosh-67 wrote:
Nice job perch..........
more stats by our non-stat orientated leader..........

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His 10.7 yards per attempt is now the highest for a quarterback with that many attempts, knocking off the New York Giants' Eli Manning, who threw for 10.0 yards per attempt in a shootout with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in September, 2012


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His 81.6 completion percentage is the highest in a game when throwing the ball 49 times or more, besting former Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub's mark of 78.2 percent, set in an overtime victory over the Jacksonville Jaguars two years ago


http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/week-8-wrap-steelers-have-horses-to-keep-up-with-the-best-after-all/ar-BBbqmgk


Thank God, Schaub doesnt deserve any records, unless they are negative in nature.

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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:55 pm 
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StillMadAtSlobber wrote:
Stosh-67 wrote:
Nice job perch..........
more stats by our non-stat orientated leader..........

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His 10.7 yards per attempt is now the highest for a quarterback with that many attempts, knocking off the New York Giants' Eli Manning, who threw for 10.0 yards per attempt in a shootout with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in September, 2012


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His 81.6 completion percentage is the highest in a game when throwing the ball 49 times or more, besting former Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub's mark of 78.2 percent, set in an overtime victory over the Jacksonville Jaguars two years ago


http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/week-8-wrap-steelers-have-horses-to-keep-up-with-the-best-after-all/ar-BBbqmgk


Thank God, Schaub doesnt deserve any records, unless they are negative in nature.


He's second on the single-game passing list, five yards ahead of Ben, as a result of the same game referenced for his completion percentage.


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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:05 pm 
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StillMadAtSlobber wrote:
It was on the point of being a flag for Kiesel joining in.


3 weeks ago Keisel joins in and it's a flag....coaching, I suppose :o

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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:34 pm 
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steelclan wrote:
Great write up. Key next week is stopping Mcphee, Suggs and Dumervil. It wont be easy. If they can that secondary is far worse than the Colts…Ben gets any time he should shred that secondary they cant cover anyone. Bryant needs to be on the field early and often to go after that secondary depth it truly stinks. Ladrius Webb looks a shell of the player he was, Elam hasnt progressed at all, Will Hill is decent, Franks is a street FA, Chkyie Brown is godawful. Have to have to give Ben time.


The way I saw it Ben didn't really have tons of time. In fact I'm not seeing Pey Pey getting tons of time either. I dint think a lot of QBs get tons of time to majestically survey the field like Brady used to. Ben is on schedule and expecting the receivers to be where they are supposed to be.

IOWs Ben made the OL look good.

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 Post subject: Re: The Fifth Quarter
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This reply might get lost, but if anybody is still following this thread . . .

I was busy this last week and was attending a wedding at 4:30 pm on sunday, so needless to say I missed the entirety of the game.

Great win, BB was great, but what was the overall game like?

They gave up 34 points and from the highlights I saw, some big plays.

Can someone give me an accurate impression of real game time thoughts?

I know the offense kicked some ass, but how did the defense do? did they get some timely 3 and outs or did they give up stupid plays and make dumb mistakes? I understand the d line did well, but what about the d backs? Did the offense score lots of points because the defense couldn't stop luck or . . . ??

Still trying to get a handle on how the game went, and whether I should get excited or think this is just a one time deal.

Thanks, and GO steelers!!

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