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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:12 pm 
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oops forgot an important piece to that tweet..

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Evan Silva @evansilva · 11m 11 minutes ago

Most 20+ yard pass plays allowed:

1. #Jaguars 36
2. #Steelers 33
3. #Cardinals 31
#Ravens 31
5. #Bears 30






Having said that, I thought the D took a huge step forward vs the Colts. Loved the aggressiveness and if Cortez makes a couple of plays I think hes very capable of making or hoping), I think the tone regarding the defense would be very positive.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Defense
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:16 pm 
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huh?


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Defense
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:22 pm 
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Playing DB in the modern NFL is a motherbitch. So difficult.

How many illegal contact calls were there on Sunday? (Maybe 5 enforced, 8 or so called?) Defensive football is almost entirely played up front now. You can't hit someone to dislodge the ball, you can't hand-fight for ball position, and you can't rub WRs off of routes anymore.

Mix that in with the fact that you can't touch the quarterback and you can't touch an Olineman in their face while trying to get to the QB, there really isn't much you can do at all. The Seahawks defense last season basically changed it up even more. My understanding was that a consortium of coaches put Seahawks game tape in front of league officials and said "what the hell is all of this???"

Our only hope is that we don't have to play Andrew Luck every week, which we don't. However, getting whooped by Mike Glennon and Brian Hoyer is totally unacceptable. Man I hope we don't fall a game short. Those will haunt us big time.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Defense
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Orangesteel wrote:
Playing DB in the modern NFL is a motherbitch. So difficult.

How many illegal contact calls were there on Sunday? (Maybe 5 enforced, 8 or so called?) Defensive football is almost entirely played up front now. You can't hit someone to dislodge the ball, you can't hand-fight for ball position, and you can't rub WRs off of routes anymore.

Mix that in with the fact that you can't touch the quarterback and you can't touch an Olineman in their face while trying to get to the QB, there really isn't much you can do at all. The Seahawks defense last season basically changed it up even more. My understanding was that a consortium of coaches put Seahawks game tape in front of league officials and said "what the hell is all of this???"

Our only hope is that we don't have to play Andrew Luck every week, which we don't. However, getting whooped by Mike Glennon and Brian Hoyer is totally unacceptable. Man I hope we don't fall a game short. Those will haunt us big time.




At least we don't have to play against our QB every week :)


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Defense
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That makes more sense now. ;)

It's no secret the secondary has been getting scorched. Lack of talent in coverage men and lack of pass rush will do that to any team. Blown assignments just make things worse.


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SP wrote:
That makes more sense now. ;)

It's no secret the secondary has been getting scorched. Lack of talent in coverage men and lack of pass rush will do that to any team. Blown assignments just make things worse.




ya thanks for the heads up.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Defense
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Collinsworth called it during the game. DBs get a penalty for looking wrong at a WR these days. all of the advantage is with the QB and receivers.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Defense
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jebrick wrote:
Collinsworth called it during the game. DBs get a penalty for looking wrong at a WR these days. all of the advantage is with the QB and receivers.




And we've all known this. That's why most of us also want to attack via the air with our HOF QB


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Defense
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Need Jarvis back and Ike. Get Tuitt in there. McCullers. Catch a break with health. Cut down penalties. Get off the field on 3rd down. More turnovers. More sacks. I feel the D could come on strong to end the season

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Defense
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The deck is stacked against the D. Goodell has effectively mandated more scoring, less defense.

Defense bores casual fans and fantasy football players.

That said, our defensive talent is at the lowest point it's been in decades.

Our offense is our strength, we'll win games because we scored 30+ points. The age of the 10-3 win is long gone.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Defense
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The deck is stacked against the D. Goodell has effectively mandated more scoring, less defense.

Defense bores casual fans and fantasy football players.

That said, our defensive talent is at the lowest point it's been in decades.

Our offense is our strength, we'll win games because we scored 30+ points. The age of the 10-3 win is long gone.

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Henceforth, the Steelers' chances for success rest squarely on the offense.

I know I'm repeating what has already been said, but if the offense can roll like the did on Sunday and keep the pressure to score turned up on our opponents, those opponents will become more desperate and more prone to mistakes, making our defense look that much better by taking advantage of them.

I really hope Sunday was the coming out party for this offense, and that there will be no going back in.

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You can look at it both ways in an age when the rules are so skewed towards the offense scoring points. Most offenses can put up points, but if you are one of the few teams that can shut down offenses, you will go far. Seachickens last year.

Find the last SB champion with porous defense.

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You can look at it both ways in an age when the rules are so skewed towards the offense scoring points. Most offenses can put up points, but if you are one of the few teams that can shut down offenses, you will go far. Seachickens last year.

Find the last SB champion with porous defense.


But if you aren't a dominant defense, at least be aggressive and force mistakes and turnovers. The defense was overmatched, but by being aggressive they made enough plays to give the offense a chance.

It's the opposite of attrition football. Extend the game on defense by taking your chances and hope your offense nets out more splash plays than them. You give-up big plays or a quick score, then so what? Just more time for your offense to put points on the board.

Probably news to Tomlin, but if your defense is getting off the field with quick stops or yielding quick scores, you'll possess the ball and win TOP that way, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Defense
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Orangesteel wrote:
Playing DB in the modern NFL is a motherbitch. So difficult.

How many illegal contact calls were there on Sunday? (Maybe 5 enforced, 8 or so called?) Defensive football is almost entirely played up front now. You can't hit someone to dislodge the ball, you can't hand-fight for ball position, and you can't rub WRs off of routes anymore.

Mix that in with the fact that you can't touch the quarterback and you can't touch an Olineman in their face while trying to get to the QB, there really isn't much you can do at all. The Seahawks defense last season basically changed it up even more. My understanding was that a consortium of coaches put Seahawks game tape in front of league officials and said "what the hell is all of this???"

Our only hope is that we don't have to play Andrew Luck every week, which we don't. However, getting whooped by Mike Glennon and Brian Hoyer is totally unacceptable. Man I hope we don't fall a game short. Those will haunt us big time.


Cleveland is not a bad team and Hoyer is not a bad QB. We are not that good that we should assume we can walk into Cleveland year after year and win 100% of the time. By the way the Browns have 2 number 1's next year. they are gonna get better and better!!


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