Like another quote said. It's a nice thought in May that Deebo will only play 20 snaps. But if these other guys start getting their asses kicked in the run game, or dinged up, things could easily end up like last year again. It's nice to get the young guys reps, but not at the cost of winning when you have a vet that can still completely shut down the run game on his side of the center.

Can’t sleep - took a trip down memory lane. Interesting reading knowing what we know now. FC and the Clemson guy nailed Dupree.

And I'm pretty sure they both said Shazier sucked. Especially the Clemson guy. I'm positive of that. It's a 50/50 proposition for even the very worst prognosticators.

I still hope the Steelers do not opt for the 5th year with this disappointment.

Nailed it with this one.

interesting aging of this post lol

You nailed it with this one as well FC.

http://steelerfury.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8&start=20



shazier does not play fast.

Man, this didn’t work out the way Jack had hoped

My words and I stand by them to this day.

I really hope the 5th year is not picked out not worth it.

Here’s the real problem.....Aaron Fucking Donald was 2 picks away and I am guessing the 3 stooges were eating a foot long and a bag of Cheetos at that time. And I guarantee it they would have passed him up if he dropped to them. “Bad fit.”

if there is one thing you CANNOT say about Shazier is that he does not play fast. Most say he plays too fast at times.

Well I can say it...And I have said it for a few years now.

Shazier was we will say football dumb...False steps, confusion where to line up, misreads of blocking schemes/routes/route progressions, .zone recognition(who to cover)

He was a 4.45 guy who played like a 4.65 guy because of what was above his shoulders



Those who don't learn from something are doomed to repeat it

Talent wise Shazier was the elite of the elite

^

Good lord, I’ve never seen that vid before. Dude was bound to really hurt himself, unfortunately.

is that clip supposed to prove something. A counter play that he played perfectly. Kept is feet under him, took a first step with the direction of the fake, recognized the counter, and drove back to the ball with elite speed. That's text book ILB play on a counter.

Problem in, with his speed and closing ability, he is a missile and needs to bow the neck and keep the eyes up to the extreme.

Athletes not football players.

Because Tomlin.

FC's points are more valid than people want to admit because it's all or nothing for most of you guys.

Shazier was the D's biggest playmaker, no doubt. His play saved a couple games. Guy loves football and he played hard. It hurts to see what happened, happen to a guy like him. But fact is considering his speed, he struggled in coverage and whiffed a bit in the run game for above-the-head reasons. I do think the mental part of his game was improving, but I think he was a year or so away from being the guy that everyone claims he was before the injury.

I also think that if he plays against Jax, steelers season extends at least a week. That said, if he plays against New England, who knows. That game was close enough where one play from your biggest playmaker on D is the difference between a one seed and a two-seed.

But it's football, injuries happen. And when your backup plan is on the couch waiting for you to call ....bad things are bound to happen.

Shazier was the one guy on this defense who could make big plays. I'm in my early 30s so my earliest Steeler memories are early/mid 90s, but Shazier's game against the Bengals in the playoffs was the best game by a Steelers defender in the playoff I've ever seen. He was growing into the leader of this D and was having a borderline All Pro level season. All the handwringing over missing on Mosley had ended.

It's a devastating loss. Drafting an impact ILB probably just became our biggest need. The draft is a relative crap shoot, anyone who acts like they know what they're talking about beyond a semi-educated guess is full of shit, and when you end up nailing a pick like Shazier and then losing that guy as he's entering his prime... man, it's f'n tough.

As for Dupree, I hated the pick in the moment, tried to talk myself into the idea that he's the anti-Jarvis after the fact, but he's hardly changed as a player. I went to UK and joked with a friend of mine the night of the draft "thank God Dupree will be gone before the Steelers pick" then watched as he fell and we pulled the trigger. Ugh. Za'Darius Smith was a better football player and pass rusher on that same UK team and went in the fourth round. But, I don't think Smith was versatile enough to do what the Steelers ask of their OLBs. Either way, we've been throwing high picks at LBs for years and we still need at least one starting OLB and ILB. Hopefully they nail it this time around.

That clip had nothing to do with the actual play.

That clip had everything to do with tackling form and self preservation

Football is a violent fast game...A series of car wrecks by massive elite athletes

To be honest I don't give a fuck how Shazier played the run...I just want the kid to walk again. I don't think he will and that breaks my heart and leads to nasty comments and posts...I guess its a form of lashing out

I was looking at the clip with the thoughts that it was going to show his false steps and him not playing fast against the run.

I think he will walk again. If Dennis Byrd walked again Shazier can. I don't believe he will play again though.