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Just saw that.

Another defensive bust under Tomlin and Colbert.


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New contract for Jervis?

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38-yo on the last legs of his career replaces a 27-yo first round draft pick.

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It's definitely not the wrong move.

Just more sad that it had to be done.

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Did Jarvis make Ron's list of first names that should not be drafted?

I know the following names made the list:

Dri
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Pretty sure Ron called Jervis "Stenosis Jones"

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I'm really not trying to pile on Tomlin, because the pitchforks are already out, but Jervis was pretty bad Sunday, and the fact that Harrison was on the BENCH during the last drive where a sack could have ended the game, and Jervis was out there getting swallowed up play after play, pisses me off to no end.

But that's Tomlin for ya. Suck ass in October and "unleash hell" in November. As if he was void of any evidence before this Monday morning that Jervis is a pass rushing failure, and keeping Harrison on the field was the right goddamn choice. A guy that lives and breathes black and gold and would like nothing more than to have won the game with a sack of Prescott. A guy that will no longer be playing football soon.

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Christ I FUCKING WISH IC were still here.

God how I wish.

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Did Jarvis make Ron's list of first names that should not be drafted?

I know the following names made the list:

Dri
Limas
Martavis
Senquez
Shaquille
Shamarko
Alameda
Crezdon
Evander
Rashard
Alonzo

Pretty sure Ron called Jervis "Stenosis Jones"


Ron was right.

...and he should be posting here again.

Just like IC!

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Christ I FUCKING WISH IC were still here.

God how I wish.


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Christ I FUCKING WISH IC were still here.

God how I wish.


I don't because we'd be getting a litany of "See what happens when you let rookies play?" posts...

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Jeemie wrote:
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Christ I FUCKING WISH IC were still here.

God how I wish.


I don't because we'd be getting a litany of "See what happens when you let rookies play?" posts...


Something about "veteran leadership"

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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin must read SteelerFury:Harrison replaces Jervis
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Why this is just now happening is beyond me.

Should have been pretty obvious that nothing was going to change.

Good to know we will only have 1 starting capable OLB on the team this offseason in Dupree.

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Steel Mike wrote:
Just saw that.

Another defensive bust under Tomlin and Colbert.


If Tomlin was smart he should had just allowed Colbert to select the players. That way he could had said, like Cowher did with , he does what he can with whats given to him. Instead its all on Tomlin. Failure after fuckin failure.

Perhaps the Timmons Woodley draft was Tomlin keeping his yap shut

Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Matt Spaeth
Daniel Sepulveda
Ryan McBean
Cameron Stephenson
William Gay
Dallas Baker

Yep, emphasis on power over speed, yep sure looks that way.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin must read SteelerFury:Harrison replaces Jervis
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Ummm...bout six weeks too late... :roll:

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The good news is that defense is Tomlin's specialty.


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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin must read SteelerFury:Harrison replaces Jervis
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BarryFoster wrote:
Did Jarvis make Ron's list of first names that should not be drafted?

I know the following names made the list:

Dri
Limas
Martavis
Senquez
Shaquille
Shamarko
Alameda
Crezdon
Evander
Rashard
Alonzo

Pretty sure Ron called Jervis "Stenosis Jones"


There is not one guy on that list that Ron was wrong about. I do miss both Ron and IC. They really do know football. While I didn't always agree with them, I thought they did add a lot to the board.


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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin must read SteelerFury:Harrison replaces Jervis
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With no Cam Heyward, Harrison is going to find it very hard to do much of anything out there.

The thing that I have never understood about our 3-4 defense is why we are so predictable with our OLBs, our pass rushers. Marcus Gilbert did an impressive job on Von Miller last season in the two games that he faced him, why exactly was the best pass rusher in the NFL going up against our RT? Let that sink in for a while. Why should any team put their best pass rusher up against the opposition's LT, up against their best pass protector? Denver chooses to maximize the talent of Miller by lining him up against the RT, every game. If he were in Pittsburgh he would strictly line up against the LT every game and drop into coverage too much.

I would love to see Harrison lined up on the left side with Stephon Tuitt for the remainder of the season. This is not hard stuff to figure out, but apparently it is for Tomlin and Bulter and previously with LeBeau.

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Tomlin or Colbert or whoever hands that draft card in was way quicker than Jervis ever was, And this aint hindsight, it was loudly frowned upon here by myself and many many others. What a garbage pick.


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a 27 year old edge rusher being replaced by a 37 year old edge rusher is like a 27 year old RB being replaced by a 37 year old RB. Or a 37 year old neurosurgeon being replaced by a 77 year old neurosurgeon with a tremor.... It means you irredeemably suck...

the fact that we figured this out last year and Tomlin is just getting to it means he irredeemably sucks...

If Tomlin had been the Seahawks coach when they signed Flynn for a boatload and drafted Wilson, he'd be getting around to putting Wilson it about now too....no ability to evaluate talent just go with inertia

I never got why JJ was a first round pick to begin with...the only thing more mystifying was the hype about Clowney when he was in decline in college.

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Why this is just now happening is beyond me.

Should have been pretty obvious that nothing was going to change.

Good to know we will only have 1 starting capable OLB on the team this offseason in Dupree.

Jarvis blew his assignment on the Game-clinching TD to Zeke Elliott. That's a big, big no-no on a team where the coaches are struggling to get the players to do their job and not try to do too much.

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SteelerzEdsaL7 wrote:
Steel Mike wrote:
Just saw that.

Another defensive bust under Tomlin and Colbert.


If Tomlin was smart he should had just allowed Colbert to select the players. That way he could had said, like Cowher did with , he does what he can with whats given to him. Instead its all on Tomlin. Failure after fuckin failure.

Perhaps the Timmons Woodley draft was Tomlin keeping his yap shut

Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Matt Spaeth
Daniel Sepulveda
Ryan McBean
Cameron Stephenson
William Gay
Dallas Baker

Yep, emphasis on power over speed, yep sure looks that way.

Just read for the millionth time that Colbert selects the players with "a lot of input from Tomlin". I truly believe that's how their system works. Besides, there have been a lot of really good draft picks under Tomlin. A lot. Better than anybody in that draft you just put up.

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
SteelerzEdsaL7 wrote:
Steel Mike wrote:
Just saw that.

Another defensive bust under Tomlin and Colbert.


If Tomlin was smart he should had just allowed Colbert to select the players. That way he could had said, like Cowher did with , he does what he can with whats given to him. Instead its all on Tomlin. Failure after fuckin failure.

Perhaps the Timmons Woodley draft was Tomlin keeping his yap shut

Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Matt Spaeth
Daniel Sepulveda
Ryan McBean
Cameron Stephenson
William Gay
Dallas Baker

Yep, emphasis on power over speed, yep sure looks that way.

Just read for the millionth time that Colbert selects the players with "a lot of input from Tomlin". I truly believe that's how their system works. Besides, there have been a lot of really good draft picks under Tomlin. A lot. Better than anybody in that draft you just put up.


Just no Super Bowl wins since February 2009. Soon to be eight years ago. But we're not the Browns, of course.

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
SteelerzEdsaL7 wrote:
Steel Mike wrote:
Just saw that.

Another defensive bust under Tomlin and Colbert.


If Tomlin was smart he should had just allowed Colbert to select the players. That way he could had said, like Cowher did with , he does what he can with whats given to him. Instead its all on Tomlin. Failure after fuckin failure.

Perhaps the Timmons Woodley draft was Tomlin keeping his yap shut

Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Matt Spaeth
Daniel Sepulveda
Ryan McBean
Cameron Stephenson
William Gay
Dallas Baker

Yep, emphasis on power over speed, yep sure looks that way.

Just read for the millionth time that Colbert selects the players with "a lot of input from Tomlin". I truly believe that's how their system works. Besides, there have been a lot of really good draft picks under Tomlin. A lot. Better than anybody in that draft you just put up.




Its both of them. Not 1 defensive pro bowler in 9 seasons.


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Tomlin of Colbert or whoever hands that draft card in was way quicker than Jervis ever was, And this aint hindsight, it was loudly frowned upon here by myself and many many others. What a garbage pick.


dont draft an old guy in round one to play pass rusher unless he destroys everyone in college. Simple as that.

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
SteelerzEdsaL7 wrote:
Steel Mike wrote:
Just saw that.

Another defensive bust under Tomlin and Colbert.


If Tomlin was smart he should had just allowed Colbert to select the players. That way he could had said, like Cowher did with , he does what he can with whats given to him. Instead its all on Tomlin. Failure after fuckin failure.

Perhaps the Timmons Woodley draft was Tomlin keeping his yap shut

Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Matt Spaeth
Daniel Sepulveda
Ryan McBean
Cameron Stephenson
William Gay
Dallas Baker

Yep, emphasis on power over speed, yep sure looks that way.

Just read for the millionth time that Colbert selects the players with "a lot of input from Tomlin". I truly believe that's how their system works. Besides, there have been a lot of really good draft picks under Tomlin. A lot. Better than anybody in that draft you just put up.


Other than Cam which is debatable ,which defensive players would that be?

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SteelerzEdsaL7 wrote:
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Tomlin of Colbert or whoever hands that draft card in was way quicker than Jervis ever was, And this aint hindsight, it was loudly frowned upon here by myself and many many others. What a garbage pick.


dont draft an old guy in round one to play pass rusher unless he destroys everyone in college. Simple as that.




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Not 1 defensive pro bowler in 9 seasons.

Woodley a Pro Bowler in 2009. Lawrence Timmons was not only a pro bowler, was 2nd team All-Pro in 2014. Ryan Clark not a draft pick, but a great signing who became a pro bowler.

Heyward was robbed, too.

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SteelerzEdsaL7 wrote:
Other than Cam which is debatable ,which defensive players would that be?

Tuitt. Gay. I really think Burns and Davis are going to excellent. Shazier and Bud are a ? but hardly a -

I was including offense because that's part of drafting, too. They have more hits over on that side but they also stuck with older guys under Lebeau for a long time.

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They blew this pick that the steelers issue we can't have misses in the 1st round at need position


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Not 1 defensive pro bowler in 9 seasons.

Woodley a Pro Bowler in 2009. Lawrence Timmons was not only a pro bowler, was 2nd team All-Pro in 2014. Ryan Clark not a draft pick, but a great signing who became a pro bowler.

Heyward was robbed, too.



Woodley was a cowher draft pick. Correction 1 defensive pro bowler who he drafted


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They blew this pick that the steelers issue we can't have misses in the 1st round at need position


Everyone has missles in the first round it happens but we need no more so we can finally get the help at OLB we so desperately need we need to draft a Greg Lloyd instead of a Jervis too many missles I agree for sure yes.

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What's infuriating about this is that Tomlin wasn't quick enough to make the change during the game last week when it needed to be made. Whether Jervis is 18 or 88, this is his walk year. There's no need or advantage to "commit to youth" when he is not a part of our future.

Whether or not he was a bust or not was decided last year when they didn't pick up his option. So do what you have to do now to compete and draft the position again next year. Deebo on the last drive gave us the best chance to win the game last week.

Typical Tomlin- making decisions to justify/attempt to cover up past mistakes. Stubborn stubborn stubborn.

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GreekSteel wrote:
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Not 1 defensive pro bowler in 9 seasons.

Woodley a Pro Bowler in 2009. Lawrence Timmons was not only a pro bowler, was 2nd team All-Pro in 2014. Ryan Clark not a draft pick, but a great signing who became a pro bowler.

Heyward was robbed, too.



Woodley was a cowher draft pick. Correction 1 defensive pro bowler who he drafted


What do you mean? Woodley was the 2nd round pick in the 2007 draft (Tomlin's first- the same draft in which Timmons was the 1st rounder).

Woodley at his peak was a beast. His flame out really set the defense back. I wonder how different things would be now if Woodley had lived up to his second contract? He'd still be a starter, and we probably wouldn't have drafted Jervis.


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GreekSteel wrote:
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Not 1 defensive pro bowler in 9 seasons.

Woodley a Pro Bowler in 2009. Lawrence Timmons was not only a pro bowler, was 2nd team All-Pro in 2014. Ryan Clark not a draft pick, but a great signing who became a pro bowler.

Heyward was robbed, too.



Woodley was a cowher draft pick. Correction 1 defensive pro bowler who he drafted


Woodley was picked in 2007, right after Timmons.


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Yup my bad on woodley being a cowher pick..that error notwithstanding his defensive drafts have still sucked donkey balls


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Now Tomlin should install Chickillo as full time starter. Moats alternates with him and does absolutely nothing. Nothing.


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Now Tomlin should install Chickillo as full time starter. Moats alternates with him and does absolutely nothing. Nothing.

Neither is going to see the field much when Dupree returns.

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