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 Post subject: Re: Bud Dupree never, ever practices or plays...Questionable
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:29 pm 
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Kodiak wrote:
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People get hurt. And some of those players are exceptional players.


Unfortunately, some players are also exceptional at getting injured.


Thinks it's wrist circumference or bad luck?

Or the ever popular "china doll" or "tub monster" theory?

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 Post subject: Re: Bud Dupree never, ever practices or plays...Questionable
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:34 pm 
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Look, in 2 seasons Dupree has 8.5 sacks, 1 FF, 2 PD, 50 total tackles. The thing that is troubling is he's played in 23 games. Starting just 9 of those. Is that what you get when you spend a 1st RND pick (22nd overall) on players these days? Those numbers are concerning to say the least. I haven't seen anything this preseason that suggests those numbers are going to change for the better either. Not saying dude is a jarvis jones as much as I'm saying I hope he finds his groove and his numbers start trending upward. Not like he's playing next to a stiff either. Starting off injured "again" is not very endearing. Wait and See?

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 Post subject: Re: Bud Dupree never, ever practices or plays...Questionable
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 Post subject: Re: Bud Dupree never, ever practices or plays...Questionable
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BarryFoster wrote:
Thinks it's wrist circumference or bad luck?


I think non-injury prone players sometimes suffer bad luck, while with injury prone players it's more a question of how long their good luck holds out.

I think it's a fact that some people are more susceptible to fractures and/or soft tissue injuries. Smaller bones aren't going to be able to withstand as much force. Less bone mineral density can't withstand as much force. Some people have shorter and/or less elastic tendons and ligaments than others. Super fast guys are capable of exerting greater force on their groin and hammies, and will almost inevitably suffer a strain or tear.

You all might want to stop laughing at STD:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s002239900170
"Many prospective studies have shown that bone mass measured at any site and by any method is inversely related to fracture risk. "

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 Post subject: Re: Bud Dupree never, ever practices or plays...Questionable
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Kodiak wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
Thinks it's wrist circumference or bad luck?


I think non-injury prone players sometimes suffer bad luck, while with injury prone players it's more a question of how long their good luck holds out.

I think it's a fact that some people are more susceptible to fractures and/or soft tissue injuries. Smaller bones aren't going to be able to withstand as much force. Less bone mineral density can't withstand as much force. Some people have shorter and/or less elastic tendons and ligaments than others. Super fast guys are capable of exerting greater force on their groin and hammies, and will almost inevitably suffer a strain or tear.

You all might want to stop laughing at STD:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s002239900170
"Many prospective studies have shown that bone mass measured at any site and by any method is inversely related to fracture risk. "


That article is addressing bone remodeling, and how it winds down in menopausal women.


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 Post subject: Re: Bud Dupree never, ever practices or plays...Questionable
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Lynch wrote:
Kodiak wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
Thinks it's wrist circumference or bad luck?


I think non-injury prone players sometimes suffer bad luck, while with injury prone players it's more a question of how long their good luck holds out.

I think it's a fact that some people are more susceptible to fractures and/or soft tissue injuries. Smaller bones aren't going to be able to withstand as much force. Less bone mineral density can't withstand as much force. Some people have shorter and/or less elastic tendons and ligaments than others. Super fast guys are capable of exerting greater force on their groin and hammies, and will almost inevitably suffer a strain or tear.

You all might want to stop laughing at STD:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s002239900170
"Many prospective studies have shown that bone mass measured at any site and by any method is inversely related to fracture risk. "


That article is addressing bone remodeling, and how it winds down in menopausal women.


But does it support someone's argument?

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 Post subject: Re: Bud Dupree never, ever practices or plays...Questionable
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Steelafan77 wrote:
Look, in 2 seasons Dupree has 8.5 sacks, 1 FF, 2 PD, 50 total tackles. The thing that is troubling is he's played in 23 games. Starting just 9 of those. Is that what you get when you spend a 1st RND pick (22nd overall) on players these days? Those numbers are concerning to say the least. I haven't seen anything this preseason that suggests those numbers are going to change for the better either. Not saying dude is a jarvis jones as much as I'm saying I hope he finds his groove and his numbers start trending upward. Not like he's playing next to a stiff either. Starting off injured "again" is not very endearing. Wait and See?


Honestly, I'm encouraged by the 8.5 sacks in 9 starts. How many starts did you expect from him in his rookie season?

The dude can't help it that he got injured last season. It was one injury; he's far from injury prone.

And even a solid draft pick generally comes into his own in his third season. That's where we are now with Dupree. I'm excited to see what he does this year. Until then, I'm pleased with his aforementioned 8.5 sacks in 9 starts.


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 Post subject: Re: Bud Dupree never, ever practices or plays...Questionable
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If he's not not 100% I'd just go with Chickillo & Moats in this one.

We need Dupree healthy. Guy is having a HOF start to his career compared to the 1st round LB that preceded him.

I think it's premature to raise the injury concerns at this point.


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 Post subject: Re: Bud Dupree never, ever practices or plays...Questionable
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Lynch wrote:
Kodiak wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
Thinks it's wrist circumference or bad luck?


I think non-injury prone players sometimes suffer bad luck, while with injury prone players it's more a question of how long their good luck holds out.

I think it's a fact that some people are more susceptible to fractures and/or soft tissue injuries. Smaller bones aren't going to be able to withstand as much force. Less bone mineral density can't withstand as much force. Some people have shorter and/or less elastic tendons and ligaments than others. Super fast guys are capable of exerting greater force on their groin and hammies, and will almost inevitably suffer a strain or tear.

You all might want to stop laughing at STD:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s002239900170
"Many prospective studies have shown that bone mass measured at any site and by any method is inversely related to fracture risk. "


That article is addressing bone remodeling, and how it winds down in menopausal women.

And???

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 Post subject: Re: Bud Dupree never, ever practices or plays...Questionable
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:28 am 
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Kodiak wrote:
You all might want to stop laughing at STD:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s002239900170
"Many prospective studies have shown that bone mass measured at any site and by any method is inversely related to fracture risk. "


LOL, never.

And that was FC's brother's argument, IIRC.


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