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 Post subject: Re: Steelers rank #8 for most watchable teams in NFL
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:12 am 
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Lynch wrote:
The offense should be fine. If Tomlin would quit tearing down Haley's gameplans, and let him operate the way he wants, it would be fine.


Weak troll. I give it a 4 out of 10

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers rank #8 for most watchable teams in NFL
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:33 am 
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Kodiak wrote:
The offense will be fine....they've been targeting BAL for the actual start of their season after the extended preseason the scheduling gods gave them.


:lol: Now that's wishful thinking. Its much more likely they play attrition football and try to shorten the game and win it in the 4th quarter. IE: do nothing on offense until a game winning drive requires them to open it up.


Herm's sphincter tightens up so much against Baltimore that he's poppin out diamonds by halftime.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers rank #8 for most watchable teams in NFL
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:18 am 
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Lynch wrote:
The offense should be fine. If Tomlin would quit tearing down Haley's gameplans, and let him operate the way he wants, it would be fine.


And you know this how?

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers rank #8 for most watchable teams in NFL
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:30 pm 
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Lynch wrote:
The offense should be fine. If Tomlin would quit tearing down Haley's gameplans, and let him operate the way he wants, it would be fine.


And you know this how?


A man who can't figure out when to go for 2, or when to call a time out, has no business intervening in the offensive game plan, obviously.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers rank #8 for most watchable teams in NFL
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:32 pm 
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R S wrote:
Kodiak wrote:
... Its much more likely they play attrition football and try to shorten the game and win it in the 4th quarter..


There's a lot of truth to this.

IMO, Tomlin's well-known irrational risk aversion is so afraid of a turnover or going backwards on a 3-and-out that simply one first down becomes a winning offensive possession. I think Haley does try to avoid certain playcalls out of fear for a negative result (except trick plays - they love them some crazy stupid trick plays!)

That's the definition of attrition football, right? Now think of that context when asking why we don't use the middle of the field more, run more PA, or mix in more complex routes (ala Arians) to scheme guys open.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers rank #8 for most watchable teams in NFL
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:39 pm 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tampa's actually a fun team to watch, and they're sneaky good right now.


It may be a sign of the times, but Jameis Winston is the first player in NFL history to throw for 4,000+ yards two seasons in a row.
While they may still only be a borderline playoff team, (I would put them in a bucket with a team like Tennessee) they are very clearly chucking the ball around a lot.
There are a lot of pieces there.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers rank #8 for most watchable teams in NFL
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:21 pm 
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Lynch wrote:
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The offense should be fine. If Tomlin would quit tearing down Haley's gameplans, and let him operate the way he wants, it would be fine.


And you know this how?


A man who can't figure out when to go for 2, or when to call a time out, has no business intervening in the offensive game plan, obviously.


Doesn't answer the question, obviously.

How do you know Tomlin tears down Haley's gameplans?

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers rank #8 for most watchable teams in NFL
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:43 pm 
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Because they both have said so. They've worded it a little differntly of course, but they've both admitted that Tomlin has the final word, and frequently makes changes before giving final approval of a gameplan.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers rank #8 for most watchable teams in NFL
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:23 pm 
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Lynch wrote:
Because they both have said so. They've worded it a little differntly of course, but they've both admitted that Tomlin has the final word, and frequently makes changes before giving final approval of a gameplan.



But I'm not sure Tomlin is ordering Haley to avoid the middle of the field and PA. He obviously isn't telling him to do more, so that's tacit approval. I doubt he'd tell Haley to stop doing something that's working.

I do think it's obvious that Tomlin is willing to sacrifice points to call a conservative/low-risk offensive game. That's the MO for defensive guys who favor attrition football.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers rank #8 for most watchable teams in NFL
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:11 pm 
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Nothing against you Hinestuff. Thanks for posting. Steelers rank #1 for most watchable teams in the NFL for me. So, should I start a 'football' blog? :lol:

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