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 Post subject: Starting this early...Situational Football
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:59 pm 
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Why are we so poor at it and how do you fix it? Mike Tomlin isn’t leading this team right now, he isn’t coaching, he’s not making smart decisions.

We are not going to win against good teams playing like this. The coaches need to improve as much as anyone.


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 Post subject: Re: Starting this early...Situational Football
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:09 pm 
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Orangesteel wrote:
Why are we so poor at it and how do you fix it? Mike Tomlin isn’t leading this team right now, he isn’t coaching, he’s not making smart decisions.

We are not going to win against good teams playing like this. The coaches need to improve as much as anyone.



They wont. We do, what we do. We coach stupid and our players play stupid.


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 Post subject: Re: Starting this early...Situational Football
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:22 pm 
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Orangesteel wrote:
Why are we so poor at it and how do you fix it?


The guys on offense don't like playing turtle ball. Maybe start there.

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 Post subject: Re: Starting this early...Situational Football
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:26 pm 
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This is the same complaint we fans have had every year. Nothing changes. They do what they do.

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 Post subject: Re: Starting this early...Situational Football
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:35 pm 
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Does it take Tomlin 10-15 seconds to decide to call timeout or is that part of a strategy to run time off the clock?

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 Post subject: Re: Starting this early...Situational Football
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:39 pm 
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Speaking of stupid, debating what to do in NYJ/JAX game. So they go for it on 3rd and it's a....spike?!?! If they miss the FG you've left 30 seconds on the clock - quite possibly the most inexplicable retardedly bizarre decision you could have made.

Increasingly I think Belicheat is less genius and more just not stupid like the rest of these clowns.

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 Post subject: Re: Starting this early...Situational Football
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:17 pm 
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gotta love it...3rd and 3 late 2nd half..a first would allow killing another 3-4 min or more.. we throw the idiotic low percentage bomb prayer to Bryant..after all; why not give Baltimore hope? dumbest shit week after week


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 Post subject: Re: Starting this early...Situational Football
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:23 pm 
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bam morris wrote:
gotta love it...3rd and 3 late 2nd half..a first would allow killing another 3-4 min or more.. we throw the idiotic low percentage bomb prayer to Bryant..after all; why not give Baltimore hope? dumbest shit week after week



Ehhh, I might argue Ben throwing to Bryant in single coverage there isn't low percentage....actually I think the expected value there is probably better than the chain of picking up the first and driving for points. People like to bitch at Ben for this, but it's really an effect of your Haley run offense.

But, again, look at all the penalties and other stupid mental mistakes inside the 30.....they take those chances/risks simply because we know this offense can't simply move the chains and score TD's. Without splash plays, they usually shoot themselves in the foot.

The horribly sloppy play, consistently - over years, inside the 30 should be enough to fire Haley...but who am I to criticize?

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 Post subject: Re: Starting this early...Situational Football
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Kodiak wrote:
bam morris wrote:
gotta love it...3rd and 3 late 2nd half..a first would allow killing another 3-4 min or more.. we throw the idiotic low percentage bomb prayer to Bryant..after all; why not give Baltimore hope? dumbest shit week after week



Ehhh, I might argue Ben throwing to Bryant in single coverage there isn't low percentage....actually I think the expected value there is probably better than the chain of picking up the first and driving for points. People like to bitch at Ben for this, but it's really an effect of your Haley run offense.

But, again, look at all the penalties and other stupid mental mistakes inside the 30.....they take those chances/risks simply because we know this offense can't simply move the chains and score TD's. Without splash plays, they usually shoot themselves in the foot.

The horribly sloppy play, consistently - over years, inside the 30 should be enough to fire Haley...but who am I to criticize?

disagree..moving chains was winning football..giving ball back was not.. why not complete a 75 percent short pass for first instead of a 5 percent bomb..giving Baltimore HOPE.. a first down and impending clock kill and fg just as damaging to baltimores chances as the bomb and far easier to complete.


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 Post subject: Re: Starting this early...Situational Football
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:42 pm 
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bam morris wrote:
disagree..moving chains was winning football..


You've watched this team, right? They aren't disciplined enough to move the chains and score points. Never have been under Haley/Tomlin. Nor with Arians.

I would guess, under Tomlin, we are near the bottom of the league in shooting ourselves in the foot inside the 30. Tomlin is a buddy-buddy, non-numbers guy....execution under him has always sucked because he simply won't demand better.

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