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 Post subject: Re: AB Int. Now you have to account for something called "Ti
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:17 pm 
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SteelerChef wrote:
To be fair....a total bs call....BUT...that 2 pt call was worse...lol...i will take it...lol


I thought the elbow was clearly down before the ball broke the plain.

Maybe Tomlin is actually an evil genius that doesn't put teams away because he's just a company man.

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 Post subject: Re: AB Int. Now you have to account for something called "Ti
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Personally felt like it was the right call, but shouldn’t have been overturned due to how subjective it was.

Looked to me like AB was bobbling the ball most of the way through the catch. He had control for a brief second before the defender’s arm knocked it sideways again, but that’s not enough to establish possession.

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SteelerChef wrote:
To be fair....a total bs call....BUT...that 2 pt call was worse...lol...i will take it...lol

I agree..i thought raven was in...I thought it must be make up call for the 3 points they shafted us on brown bs call.. how can these bums look at shit for 10 minites and still fuck it up 50 percet of time..


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How come no one can be 100% sure of what is defined as a catch anymore? Was a horseshit call and unfortunately for the refs/nfl and the rats it didn't matter.


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Steelafan77 wrote:
How come no one can be 100% sure of what is defined as a catch anymore? Was a horseshit call and unfortunately for the refs/nfl and the rats it didn't matter.


We all know what a catch is. Everyone has since they were 10 years old playing neighborhood games in your backyard.

But the rules allow the NFL to shape games in a way that keeps people watching. And I'll quit following it all when Ben retires.

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Louis Lipps Service wrote:
Personally felt like it was the right call, but shouldn’t have been overturned due to how subjective it was.

Looked to me like AB was bobbling the ball most of the way through the catch. He had control for a brief second before the defender’s arm knocked it sideways again, but that’s not enough to establish possession.

Again, my opinion.


That’s where I’m at. I thought he was bobbling it prior to his knee hitting down. Still can’t believe they reversed the call on the field, but I understand it.

As for the two pointer, it looked like the left elbow hit down and before the ball crossed. He had the ball tucked back near his hip as he was going down. Tough call, but I think they got it right.

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 Post subject: Re: AB Int. Now you have to account for something called "Ti
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Still can’t believe they reversed the call on the field


Yes to everything else, but especially that. THAT is everything. End of story.

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I thought neither justified over turn..and they wasted 20 min..but this is new nfl and its shit.


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SteelerChef wrote:
To be fair....a total bs call....BUT...that 2 pt call was worse...lol...i will take it...lol


I thought the elbow was clearly down before the ball broke the plain.

Maybe Tomlin is actually an evil genius that doesn't put teams away because he's just a company man.
Plane.

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 Post subject: Re: AB Int. Now you have to account for something called "Ti
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The "INT" was a joke. He had possession all the way until his knee hit. Just because the ball moves slightly as you have possession doesn't negate possession. It's not like there was a bobble.

The 2 point conversion was the right call. People were looking at his hip. If you look at elbow the ball was short.


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SP wrote:
It's like they want to piss off fans to the point of tuning out games. Catch, two feet down, football move, knees hits ground. The play should be over. This was the biggest bullshit call I've ever seen.

Some members here call me crazy for saying they're fixing it to their liking

Some have seen the light amid many years of proof positive vs not believing

As long as they let Ben get over the mountain one more time.......I'll allow it.

That call today should wake up all the non believers

And Jeemie always calling me a nutter...... Any day of the week boy.

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 Post subject: Re: AB Int. Now you have to account for something called "Ti
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I still say incompetence rather than fix.

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If that was called an int to begin with, I would have challenged with absolute certainty that it gets overturned.

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Poltargyst wrote:
I still say incompetence rather than fix.

I still say accidentally on purpose too. :lol:


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Review in itself is bullshit, it allows them to make up shit as they go, whether it's on purpose or not.


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Nick79 wrote:
Review in itself is bullshit...

I could not agree more!

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Nick79 wrote:
Review in itself is bullshit, it allows them to make up shit as they go, whether it's on purpose or not.


I think it's more the point spreads more than anything else


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Indeed I would say it was the worst call I ever saw but I also saw Troys non-interception against colts in the playoffs of 05.


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Strom Detmer wrote:
Indeed I would say it was the worst call I ever saw but I also saw Troys non-interception against colts in the playoffs of 05.

They just made something up! AB caught the ball ran a few steps in possession, went down and THE GROUND CAUSED A FUMBLE! This "complete the process" stuff is bullshit! It means a ball carrier running with the ball after catching a pass plays by different rules than a runner carrying the ball... Ben completed a pass, AB caught a pass and ran several steps, then the ground caused a fumble, then Ben is charged with throwing an interception? Replay is bullshit, I'd rather live with horrible mistakes, rather than wait 5 minutes for the refs to create horrible mistakes.


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I am fine with the call either way.

Don’t conflate the reception with the interception though. It was a tough call in real speed.

The mistake was made in the review. There was Absolutely no way there was enough evidence to over turn the reception; conversely not enough to overturn an interception had that been called.

There were many things wrong with that call. I thought Tomlin should have immediately thrown the red flag to challenge the reception just to be obnoxious. .

That is one of my favorite traits of Tomlin. The refs never cause Tomlin to go off the rails, and hence the team stays focused and in control. Cowher was famous for blowing up, and you could argue the players followed suit and got distracted and dejected from the task at hand too.


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In the entire history of bullshit calls and bullshit interceptions, that was one giant bullshit call/INT.

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 Post subject: Re: AB Int. Now you have to account for something called "Ti
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:43 pm 
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In the entire history of bullshit calls and bullshit interceptions, that was one giant bullshit call/INT.


Yep. Easily the worst i ever saw. And that was WITH replay

There are several moves id make in regards to rules/refs/replay etc if i was king

I still cant believe a trillion dollar entity like the nfl still has part time refs. Thats a big issue imo


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Shouldn't the call on the field stand unless it's a blatantly obvious mistake that is scene without a doubt on replay? Or is that just a college rule? Because if you have to rewind the damn thing 10 times and bring out a protractor, the call on the field should stand!

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 Post subject: Re: AB Int. Now you have to account for something called "Ti
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But Troy's INT vs. the Colts in the 2006 Divisional Game didn't count...



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Of all the things that is destroying the NFL game, replay review is at the top of the list.

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