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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:17 pm 
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I believe there is a plan for James Harrison. I believe it is a bad one. Coaches are morons.

Some of that decision is in the hands of the Steelers worst position coach... which leaves it up for debate.


LOL - where would Tomlin be without guys who played for Cowher?

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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I've got no problem transitioning to Watt over Harrison-- playing Chickillo over Deebo is weird



Yes, Chickillo was getting his ass kicked against Chicago. The team was desperate for someone who could set an edge against the run. Wasn't James quoted that he could set the edge at 60 years old?

I like the idea to work in the other guys & save James Harrison for when they really need him. But the Steelers needed him to win in Chicago.


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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I read something this morning about Harrison being a scratch Sunday due to illness. Was in Tribune or Post-Gazette. Not going to bother looking it up.

The Chicago game is the real head scratcher.


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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Harrison will get 20 snaps our first playoff game.

They’ll work him in more in the second half of the season. They're giving him the first hlf off.

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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Harrison will get 20 snaps our first playoff game.

They’ll work him in more in the second half of the season. They're giving him the first hlf off.


Did they tell him this? If so, why the comments from him previous weeks that he doesn’t know what is going on?

If it was communicated it would seem all parities would be in vosrd and respond accordingly. It’s not like it’s some tactical secret.


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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Did they tell him this? If so, why the comments from him previous weeks that he doesn’t know what is going on?


I'm sure James Harrison would be THRILLED to practice for weeks and weeks without ever getting to play a snap. Who wouldn't?!?

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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4 games in and not a single snap. If I’m JH I’m asking Tomlin why I’m wasting my time?

If the answer is we need you later then that’s fine. Provided they’ve told him his.

They needed him in Chicago however and he sat on the bench while the rest of the defense was getting it’s ass handed to it.

Against a team that telegraphed it was not going to be passing the ball.

Yet another 1+1= 2 math question our genius coaches applied calculus to and ended up with a physics answer. The wrong one of course.


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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The answer is simple.

MIKE TOMLIN IS A FUCKIN' IDIOT!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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I believe there is a plan for James Harrison. I believe it is a bad one. Coaches are morons.

Some of that decision is in the hands of the Steelers worst position coach... which leaves it up for debate.


So you're saying it was Porter's call not to play JH against the Bears?

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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R S wrote:
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I believe there is a plan for James Harrison. I believe it is a bad one. Coaches are morons.

Some of that decision is in the hands of the Steelers worst position coach... which leaves it up for debate.


So you're saying it was Porter's call not to play JH against the Bears?


Ultimately Tomlin's call....unless, of course, he's a potted fuckin' plant.


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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R S wrote:
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I believe there is a plan for James Harrison. I believe it is a bad one. Coaches are morons.

Some of that decision is in the hands of the Steelers worst position coach... which leaves it up for debate.


So you're saying it was Porter's call not to play JH against the Bears?

Position coach is the one who generally decides which guys play, especially rotations and backups. You can blame the DC or the HC for not saying, "Why the hell is Deebo not going in the game?"

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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My whole problem with James Harrison and how they are approaching his situation is how stupid the coaching staff are.

Hmmm. They make excuses for Bell and say he is a bit 'rusty' and out of sync because of his time away from camp and not playing the preseason.

They make excuses for Bryant not being fully up to speed and dominant because he was suspended for a year, it will take time for him to get reacclimatized to the speed of the game, etc.

So, now they are, by choice, refusing to give Harrison any snaps at all, keep him sealed in this ziplock bag, and only bring him out when they really need him?

And he is supposed to be able to make any sort of difference at that point, expected to be dominant, a playmaker?

It is obvious that a player needs to be active and getting snaps, be in there with his teammates, have a comfort level, communication, have meaningful reps to be able to step in and contribute.

Last season Harrison after the first 4 games had 128 snaps counts on defense, this year he has 7 snaps. And for all of this talk of how Harrison does not play special teams, well last season he had 38 snaps on ST. Moats does not really play all that much on special teams just as a blocker (the LT?) on punts? You are telling me that Harrison couldn't do that in place of Moats and be the active 4th OLB?

All I know is that Harrison is probably going to go deep into the season then be called up and then probably pull a hamstring because of a long stretch of not playing. They see what no activity did for Bell and Bryant and yet they are on purpose doing it to Harrison, it makes not sense at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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There is one logical explanation for why he’s not playing...
They believe the other guys are better...hmmm

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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TB wrote:
Harrison will get 20 snaps our first playoff game.

They’ll work him in more in the second half of the season. They're giving him the first hlf off.


Then why bother dressing him?


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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JH is 40.

I think some of you may be overestimating his impact at this point.

Jobus Rum wrote:
There is one logical explanation for why he’s not playing...
They believe the other guys are better...hmmm

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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Still Lit wrote:
JH is 40.

I think some of you may be overestimating his impact at this point.

Jobus Rum wrote:
There is one logical explanation for why he’s not playing...
They believe the other guys are better...hmmm


Watch Chickillo playing the run vs Chicago. Seriously. 40 or not. Even in his limited preseason snaps I know all I need to know.

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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Jobus Rum wrote:
They believe the other guys are better...hmmm


I actually think the snaps are going to Chickillo so they can see what they really have (and Porter REALLY liked Chickillo).

That's no excuse and no explanation for why Harrison didn't play against CHI when Chickillo was struggling. Especially when you realize guys were gassed at the end of the game in which Harrison had 0 snaps. Knowing Tomlin, he didn't even realize Harrison didn't get in.

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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Still Lit wrote:
JH is 40.

I think some of you may be overestimating his impact at this point.

Jobus Rum wrote:
There is one logical explanation for why he’s not playing...
They believe the other guys are better...hmmm

Harrison had the 2nd highest pressures per snap in the entire NFL last year.

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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JH is 40.

I think some of you may be overestimating his impact at this point.

Jobus Rum wrote:
There is one logical explanation for why he’s not playing...
They believe the other guys are better...hmmm


Watch Chickillo playing the run vs Chicago. Seriously. 40 or not. Even in his limited preseason snaps I know all I need to know.


The fucked-up retarded decision to play Chikillo over JH is the reason we lost in Chicago.


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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James has got maybe 8 games left in that body- want to waste it on what is basically the warm-up part of our season? Last year the Dude spent over 300k just so he could get his body right to play last year. If we need Silverback to come in and save the season- then we have bigger problems. James is fine, the decision is the right one, and by week 10 we will all be asking (foolishly) if James can play another year- er half a year

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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James has got maybe 8 games left in that body- want to waste it on what is basically the warm-up part of our season? Last year the Dude spent over 300k just so he could get his body right to play last year. If we need Silverback to come in and save the season- then we have bigger problems. James is fine, the decision is the right one, and by week 10 we will all be asking (foolishly) if James can play another year- er half a year


We know this how??


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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James has got maybe 8 games left in that body- want to waste it on what is basically the warm-up part of our season? Last year the Dude spent over 300k just so he could get his body right to play last year. If we need Silverback to come in and save the season- then we have bigger problems. James is fine, the decision is the right one, and by week 10 we will all be asking (foolishly) if James can play another year- er half a year


We know this how??


So at this pace he will have used half of a game , of those 8 he has left by the end of year.

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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They believe the other guys are better...hmmm


I actually think the snaps are going to Chickillo so they can see what they really have (and Porter REALLY liked Chickillo).

That's no excuse and no explanation for why Harrison didn't play against CHI when Chickillo was struggling. Especially when you realize guys were gassed at the end of the game in which Harrison had 0 snaps. Knowing Tomlin, he didn't even realize Harrison didn't get in.



I absolutely believe that.

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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JH is 40.

I think some of you may be overestimating his impact at this point.

Jobus Rum wrote:
There is one logical explanation for why he’s not playing...
They believe the other guys are better...hmmm

Harrison had the 2nd highest pressures per snap in the entire NFL last year.


And one could still believe that Deebo fell off a cliff because age...except he looked pretty damn good in the preseason. So all recent publically available evidence suggests Deebo is still a quality LB; at least better than Chick.


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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Thanks for the replies.

I didn't know he was sick last week.

Anxious to see this unfold.


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