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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:31 pm 
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ill glady eat crow. but no ben u don't have it anymore...and if he plays his new normal garbage stuff vs chiefs id put landry in the following week..i really believe benching ben could be team beneficial..as with ben hurt team seems to rise up its play all around. maybe that's what is needed. I recall bradshaw benched often and for less reason then current ben.. in fact every qb for steelers pre ben been benched ...ben is first that seems to get a free pass mo matter what he does.... perhaps its time to burst his bubble a bit. I could see ben coming in game at half after a landry jones shit show and rallying team big!


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:33 pm 
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Orangesteel wrote:
This whole team fucking sucks


The team is a complete joke

And next week, at KC?

Wow. I actually believed they'd be good this year and challenge for a Lombardi!

But they are close to hitting rock bottom if you will. Let's tip our hat to the Jags.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. Maybe I don't have it anymore"
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:37 pm 
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955876 wrote:
Plus, A LOT of his passes are wobbly now.


That always been the case. Ben has never thrown the tightest spirals around.

As I've said repeatedly, Haley's offense sucked until Ben started throwing the ball unbelievably well. Now we're seeing Ben throw the ball like he did in those early Haley years, and seeing similar results.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Orangesteel wrote:
This whole team fucking sucks


No, it doesn't.

Get rid of the cuckold anchor around the offense and watch this team become what we thought they could.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:41 pm 
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Ben is REALLY laboring throwing the ball.

Something is very wrong with him.

Used to throw effortlessly. Now it looks like he's trying to throw a bowling ball.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Kodiak wrote:
955876 wrote:
Plus, A LOT of his passes are wobbly now.


That always been the case. Ben has never thrown the tightest spirals around.

As I've said repeatedly, Haley's offense sucked until Ben started throwing the ball unbelievably well. Now we're seeing Ben throw the ball like he did in those early Haley years, and seeing similar results.


I guess I’m just noticing it more in the shorter throws than in the past.

Wobbly ball harder to catch too...


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:42 pm 
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Kodiak wrote:
Orangesteel wrote:
This whole team fucking sucks


No, it doesn't.

Get rid of the cuckold anchor around the offense and watch this team become what we thought they could.


Hubbard and Villy not helping

Haley is a dope

Ben is playing like shit

And the HC is a complete bumbling idiot

The team sucks

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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BarryFoster wrote:
Kodiak wrote:
Orangesteel wrote:
This whole team fucking sucks


No, it doesn't.

Get rid of the cuckold anchor around the offense and watch this team become what we thought they could.


Hubbard and Villy not helping

Haley is a dope

Ben is playing like shit

And the HC is a complete bumbling idiot

The team sucks


That about sums it up.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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BarryFoster wrote:
Orangesteel wrote:
This whole team fucking sucks


The team is a complete joke

And next week, at KC?

Wow. I actually believed they'd be good this year and challenge for a Lombardi!

But they are close to hitting rock bottom if you will. Let's tip our hat to the Jags.


Don’t be surprised if the Steelers win next week. This is what they do.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Kodiak wrote:
Orangesteel wrote:
This whole team fucking sucks


No, it doesn't.

Get rid of the cuckold anchor around the offense and watch this team become what we thought they could.


Cuckold In a raincoat :)

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Steel Ubaldo wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
Orangesteel wrote:
This whole team fucking sucks


The team is a complete joke

And next week, at KC?

Wow. I actually believed they'd be good this year and challenge for a Lombardi!

But they are close to hitting rock bottom if you will. Let's tip our hat to the Jags.


Don’t be surprised if the Steelers win next week. This is what they do.


I'd be shocked

They blow from top to bottom

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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BarryFoster wrote:
Hubbard and Villy not helping

Haley is a dope


The OL had a subpar game or two, but they are FAR from the problems with this offense.

Playcall and play design and separation. Ben is not hitting bullseyes with darts, but few QB's do so consistently. Ben had a couple of unreal years throwing the football, but he's come back to earth and deficiencies have been exposed.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:50 pm 
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They should get rid of the pistol formation. Offense does better from play action and Le Veon runs better when he has a running start. Haley's playcalling with 1 yard screens may keep Ben upright but like someone said that it brings a crowd to the ball and its not working. He also needs a better right tackle. Hubbard got abused.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:59 pm 
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I'm not buying this Ben Sucks now scenerio at all.

I still think Ben is going to wake up and play well this season. If Ben was a Stock, I'd say buy now when the price is low.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:08 pm 
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Gotta admit I’m tentatively in the camp that Ben is about done. I thought before the offseason 3-4 years, with the retirement talk bumped that to 2-3. Way things are going I’m saying 1-2.

Thing is you look around the league and lots of teams get new life with young players. Steelers are lacking energy now.

Haley is sucking but we need to realize he’s playing art 2’s system. This is what they’ve collectively come up with. It sucks the life out of me just watching it. Yes I do believe this doe# happen to coincide with bens emotional commitment just not being there.

Question is how many good games do they have left? I say draft a qb and rb in rounds 1 and 2.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:14 pm 
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I think Ben can turn it around.. If he wants to. If he mentally isn't in it anymore maybe this is his last season. If it is, Kirk Cousins and Alex Smith are free agents. Could be a nice transition.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Alex smith would be a perfect vessel for the bullshit preached by this staff


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Good luck the next 3 weeks.

I don't think the Bengals will be a walk in the park, either.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Gonzo wrote:
Alex smith would be a perfect vessel for the bullshit preached by this staff


He's probably a good fit for Haley ball.....but this board unanimously thought Alex Smith was a journeyman, at best, last year. Has been his whole career. Having a good season but don't be fooled.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:27 pm 
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man..watching dallas and the green bay rogers now... yes.. ben is in minors now.. rogers makes ben look like a fat pedestrian. and so does dak..


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Kodiak wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
Alex smith would be a perfect vessel for the bullshit preached by this staff


He's probably a good fit for Haley ball.....but this board unanimously thought Alex Smith was a journeyman, at best, last year. Has been his whole career. Having a good season but don't be fooled.


Nobody's ever going to win anything of consequence with Alex Smith under center.

The way Ben has looked this year, we might be at the point of saying the same thing about him now.

He's laboring out there. Looks slow as shit moving and his throwing.....is shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Kodiak wrote:
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This is bad at this point he looks like he ready to retire.


He looks like a good QB playing in a complete shit of an offense.


Just cant take your comments with ANY sense of credibility. Top O line, arguably the best RB in the game AND arguably the BEST WR in the game and you call it "a complete shit of an offense". It makes zero sense. Zero. Just watched Rogers take the ball down the field with less than a minute on the clock, below average Oline, no running back to speak of NO EXCUSES just got the job done. Kodiak you need to take a walk and clear your mind cause you are spewing nonsense.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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KC wrote:
He's laboring out there. Looks slow as shit moving and his throwing.....is shit.


Every QB is going to look and throw like "shit" when every throw is into tight, contested windows.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Kodiak wrote:
KC wrote:
He's laboring out there. Looks slow as shit moving and his throwing.....is shit.


Every QB is going to look and throw like "shit" when every throw is into tight, contested windows.


He's also missing open receivers (ala AB last week) with poor decisions.

Ben can't escape ANYTHING anymore. His legs are gone, his arm is going.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Kodiak wrote:
KC wrote:
He's laboring out there. Looks slow as shit moving and his throwing.....is shit.


Every QB is going to look and throw like "shit" when every throw is into tight, contested windows.


That was a huge part of it.

Nobody but Brown gets open consistently, but Ben used to be able to throw guys open.


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