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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:11 pm 
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Bryant was never consistent. When he was, he was a superstar. And now it looks as if he is taking time getting his act back together.

But he's been wide open 3 times...twice for easy TDs. It would help if Ben didn't miss him by a country mile when he he was.

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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:18 pm 
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He may need to get stoned and think about it for a while.


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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:39 pm 
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Kodiak wrote:
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He's just rusty and the offense as a whole has as well.


We're heading into Wk6. How much longer can we use this as an excuse?

It's not an excuse, it's a fact. This team isn't on the same page and haven't been because of the dumbfuckery at training camp.

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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:40 pm 
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I was always afraid that we were overaging MB. Remember, in college this guy was always Robin to someone else’s Batman.

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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
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If you watch the big go route from Sunday, he was severely arm barred the whole route. I think it should have been called! It definitely moved him laterally about 4-5 yards. Like a sideways wind on an airplane. The ball landed to his left too. I believe it was a perfectly thrown ball.


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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:55 pm 
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Bryant missed a long time and the rhythm isn't there with Ben -- missed some deep throws
that. and this offense does him zero favors. shit we can get mike Wallace to run two deep routes a game. he should be used as more than a pot luck shot down the field once or twice. they need to throw him a few short runs and most definitely have him cut off some deep runs for intermediate throws as IMO he would be open constantly there. teams are doubling brown and keying bell -- using Bryant for only deep balls seems foolish


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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:03 am 
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A few more thoughts...

Bryant in the playoff game vs Broncos without AB on the field...

2 CAR 40 Yds
9 REC 154 Yds 17.1 AVG

I thought he could be a dynamic #2 WR for us. I never viewed him as a guy I would want as a #1 WR due to his many flaws.

But it seems he is now in a freefall off a cliff.


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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:16 am 
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LakecrestSteeler wrote:
If you watch the big go route from Sunday, he was severely arm barred the whole route. I think it should have been called! It definitely moved him laterally about 4-5 yards. Like a sideways wind on an airplane. The ball landed to his left too. I believe it was a perfectly thrown ball.


Thought the same thing while watching and with replay. I have been unable to make up my mind whether I'm just a huge homer, but sure looked like a flag.

BUT, this goes to another knock on MB, namely, that he does not fight enough for contested balls. If that were AB, AB would've been selling the hell out of the arm bar while trying to get the ball. AB simply has the presence of mind and talent. Total package. Did MB fight enough to make the arm bar more obvious? Could he have done more? Only saw it the once.

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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:16 pm 
If we dont win a Lombardi this year Id trade AB and roll with JuJu and Bryant.

AB probably gets a 1 and 3. Maybe more.
Id also get rid of DD. Hes probably worth a 2.

And get some big bodies who can make a difference in the redzone


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SteelerChef wrote:
If we dont win a Lombardi this year Id trade AB and roll with JuJu and Bryant.

AB probably gets a 1 and 3. Maybe more.
Id also get rid of DD. Hes probably worth a 2.

And get some big bodies who can make a difference in the redzone


Added bonus for AB if he goes to a team with competent coaches and talent. Probably actually win a ring before he retires. Not looking good if he stays, right now. So your suggestion could be a win-win.

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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
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Still Lit wrote:
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If we dont win a Lombardi this year Id trade AB and roll with JuJu and Bryant.

AB probably gets a 1 and 3. Maybe more.
Id also get rid of DD. Hes probably worth a 2.

And get some big bodies who can make a difference in the redzone


Added bonus for AB if he goes to a team with competent coaches and talent. Probably actually win a ring before he retires. Not looking good if he stays, right now. So your suggestion could be a win-win.
Are you sure he wouldn't mind less than 10-15 targets and the required 100 yards every game? Would he be willing to rim his new QB before being taken out to dinner a few times first?

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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
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I had forgotten about Bryant being called out by Ben at the end of 2015.

Hate to agree [more accurately, hope I'm wrong] that Bryant may not respond positively to being benched. But I'm not sure what other option you have at this point. It would be great to see Haley get him more involved and call some better plays, but we all know that's not going to happen.

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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:32 pm 
Still Lit wrote:
SteelerChef wrote:
If we dont win a Lombardi this year Id trade AB and roll with JuJu and Bryant.

AB probably gets a 1 and 3. Maybe more.
Id also get rid of DD. Hes probably worth a 2.

And get some big bodies who can make a difference in the redzone


Added bonus for AB if he goes to a team with competent coaches and talent. Probably actually win a ring before he retires. Not looking good if he stays, right now. So your suggestion could be a win-win.



Over time ive become less than thrilled with AB

- He appears to be a selfish me first player at times
- He comes up small in big games
- He isnt the smartest or most aware player
- He isnt a great TD player in the redzone particularly

I could list more. I also realize there are some good arguements the other way too.

I got a feeling Bryant is gonna be great. I think JuJu might be able to become great at contested catches.

This teams biggest problem by far is the redzone. DD and AB are upgradeable imo.


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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
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SteelerChef wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
SteelerChef wrote:
If we dont win a Lombardi this year Id trade AB and roll with JuJu and Bryant.

AB probably gets a 1 and 3. Maybe more.
Id also get rid of DD. Hes probably worth a 2.

And get some big bodies who can make a difference in the redzone


Added bonus for AB if he goes to a team with competent coaches and talent. Probably actually win a ring before he retires. Not looking good if he stays, right now. So your suggestion could be a win-win.



Over time ive become less than thrilled with AB

- He appears to be a selfish me first player at times
- He comes up small in big games
- He isnt the smartest or most aware player
- He isnt a great TD player in the redzone particularly

I could list more. I also realize there are some good arguements the other way too.

I got a feeling Bryant is gonna be great. I think JuJu might be able to become great at contested catches.

This teams biggest problem by far is the redzone. DD and AB are upgradeable imo.


The thing is AB garners attention...double coverage. Whether he comes up big or small, he loosens the defense for everyone else.

Bell does the same.

That's what I can't understand. Players around the league are afraid of AB and Bell...and yet somehow...by some ridiculous fuck up....Haley and Ben can't take advantage of this.

Think about how Bell and AB would slash our defense. Burns is AB's bitch in preseason practice. At this point, our defense couldn't stop Najeh Davenport, let alone Bell (although Deebo being cleared to play provides hope).

How can all this talent not gel?

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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
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The thing is AB garners attention...double coverage.


He has, for years. He's not beating it like he used to.

But he's not the problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
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Over time ive become less than thrilled with AB

- He appears to be a selfish me first player at times
- He comes up small in big games
- He isnt the smartest or most aware player
- He isnt a great TD player in the redzone particularly

I could list more. I also realize there are some good arguements the other way too.

I got a feeling Bryant is gonna be great. I think JuJu might be able to become great at contested catches.

This teams biggest problem by far is the redzone. DD and AB are upgradeable imo.[/quote]

The thing is AB garners attention...double coverage. Whether he comes up big or small, he loosens the defense for everyone else.

Bell does the same.

That's what I can't understand. Players around the league are afraid of AB and Bell...and yet somehow...by some ridiculous fuck up....Haley and Ben can't take advantage of this.

Think about how Bell and AB would slash our defense. Burns is AB's bitch in preseason practice. At this point, our defense couldn't stop Najeh Davenport, let alone Bell (although Deebo being cleared to play provides hope).

How can all this talent not gel?[/quote]

Oh please, if we don't block for Bell he's not going to garner attention like he has in the past.

He's also lost a step because of injury
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