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 Post subject: Re: Going for two. Yinz serious?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:47 pm 
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While this is fun - if you can't see if for yourself then I'm not sure there is anything I'm going to say that can help ya


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 Post subject: Re: Going for two. Yinz serious?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:48 pm 
FromPittWithLove wrote:
While this is fun - if you can't see if for yourself then I'm not sure there is anything I'm going to say that can help ya


Words to live by here sometimes...lol


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 Post subject: Re: Going for two. Yinz serious?
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FromPittWithLove wrote:
While this is fun - if you can't see if for yourself then I'm not sure there is anything I'm going to say that can help ya


I did see for myself.

This team was one errant pass from losing.

I'd walk away too if I argued that going for two up seven is a sound strategy.


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 Post subject: Re: Going for two. Yinz serious?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:22 am 
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This may be the dumbest thread in history. Dumebr than Tomlin considering whether to make throw a red flag and challenge a decision on the field. Any time you can make it a two score game you do. Period. Zero discussion needed.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:44 pm 
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I’m with the OP and others that agree the xtra point was the right call at that point in the game. It meant KC would be forced to put two scoring drives together rather than just one.

I’ve been real hard on Tomlin of late but can’t see any reason to fault this call. Made sense to me at the time and still does.

Now the punt,, that was a gutless cowardly call that did nothing but save 16 yards.


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 Post subject: Re: Going for two. Yinz serious?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:19 pm 
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There were also people here pining for the 2 point conversion at 8-3. Though defensible, I'm of the opinion you don't chase points early and thought the 1XP was the right call.

But what is aggravating to me, is I wonder if these are the same people that don't want Tomlin chasing points when the score is say, 6-0, and they go for 2.

Seems to be inconsistent demands from Head Coaching strategy. 1 week it's criticism for going for 2 early. The next week it's criticism for not.


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 Post subject: Re: Going for two. Yinz serious?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:22 pm 
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Two topics:
1. You get the 1 point, take the 2 score lead in the easiest way possible.

2. I punt. The fact that the punt stunk is irrelevant. A missed or blocked field goal gives them a short field. Try to pin em and play D


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 Post subject: Re: Going for two. Yinz serious?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:26 pm 
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Miter Saw wrote:
There were also people here pining for the 2 point conversion at 8-3. Though defensible, I'm of the opinion you don't chase points early and thought the 1XP was the right call.

But what is aggravating to me, is I wonder if these are the same people that don't want Tomlin chasing points when the score is say, 6-0, and they go for 2.

Seems to be inconsistent demands from Head Coaching strategy. 1 week it's criticism for going for 2 early. The next week it's criticism for not.


I am hoping that the decision not to go for 2 early in the game, when it did make some sense, means Tomlin is giving up the 2-point experiment. We seem to have lost our touch for it, and as a fan I'd rather enjoy the TD moment than then have to worry about whether we make the 2-pointer.

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 Post subject: Re: Going for two. Yinz serious?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:28 pm 
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I think many are arguing they should have went for it rather than try the long FG. You go for it and fail all it cost you was like 15 yards. Convert and it’s likely game over.


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DocSteel wrote:
Two topics:
1. You get the 1 point, take the 2 score lead in the easiest way possible.

2. I punt. The fact that the punt stunk is irrelevant. A missed or blocked field goal gives them a short field. Try to pin em and play D


The decision was to punt or go for it, not try a FG.

And from the 36, the ball is getting into the EZ on a punt more times than not.

So that means more often than not, the difference in FP is 15 yards. In today's NFL, you get that much in one play more often than not.

So go for it because you're likely not pinning the Chiefs deep.

On the other side of the 50, I'm going for it on fourth and short more often than not.

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 Post subject: Re: Going for two. Yinz serious?
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I thought that the Steelers should have gone forward on fourth and two Raven pond as well. For the record though the yardage differential was 26 yards not 16, as the Chiefs were penalized on the return and start it out on their own 10. Of course they moved right down the field put it in the end zone. I, as well, think that without the ab touchdown we lose that game. Had that passed been incomplete we are putting it back to the Chiefs and holding only a two point lead… Fg beats us


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 Post subject: Re: Going for two. Yinz serious?
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Jeemie wrote:
DocSteel wrote:
Two topics:
1. You get the 1 point, take the 2 score lead in the easiest way possible.

2. I punt. The fact that the punt stunk is irrelevant. A missed or blocked field goal gives them a short field. Try to pin em and play D


The decision was to punt or go for it, not try a FG.

And from the 36, the ball is getting into the EZ on a punt more times than not.

So that means more often than not, the difference in FP is 15 yards. In today's NFL, you get that much in one play more often than not.

So go for it because you're likely not pinning the Chiefs deep.

On the other side of the 50, I'm going for it on fourth and short more often than not.


The other thing with going for it in a spot like that is that you can have your offense be looser with holding, setting picks, and pushing off.

Dare the refs to throw a flag on 4th down. It's not a disaster if they do; your punter now has more room.


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 Post subject: Re: Going for two. Yinz serious?
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I had a nice long post, then I just decided to go with:
Belicheat has a rocket scientist and one of the best GL offenses in the league - and he doesn't chase the points.

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 Post subject: Re: Going for two. Yinz serious?
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Zeke5123 wrote:
I agree on the PAT. Hated the punt though.


100%

And any of the other 2 options I was fine with.


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