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 Post subject: Re: How bout that brilliant clock management by Tomlin!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:45 pm 
Zeke5123 wrote:
SteelerChef wrote:
Zeke5123 wrote:

BS. The key there is get a first at all costs. Burning time there isn't doing anything to really stop the other team. It only limits your ability to respond. First down was all that mattered. Massive fuck up.


Wrong


Insightful.


Generally when people post things that are obviously so far off the rails they are either logic challenged in the 1st place or locked in on defending their wrong stance.

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 Post subject: Re: How bout that brilliant clock management by Tomlin!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:46 pm 
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I hated the punt 4th and 2 from the 35 yard line late in the game. Why not go for the dagger instead of a punt that nets you 15 yards of field position.


Also, if you knew you were going for it on fourth, changes your play calling on fourth.


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 Post subject: Re: How bout that brilliant clock management by Tomlin!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:50 pm 
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I'd assume the thought process at that point ...
Getting the ball back with 2:16 to play was to try and eat clock.....
And that out weighed the riskiness of passing to get a first.

I reality. We ate 16 seconds before the punt.

Handed ball back to KC on their own 44 after a nice punt return.
With an offense that was moving the ball.
1:42. On the clock.
A time out in hand.
And needing about 20-25 yards to get in FG range.

I'm thinking most on this board was in...
"Is this really happening mode"

Same spot.... Down the road.
Play to win.
And not to lose.

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 Post subject: Re: How bout that brilliant clock management by Tomlin!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:52 pm 
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SP wrote:
I hated the punt 4th and 2 from the 35 yard line late in the game. Why not go for the dagger instead of a punt that nets you 15 yards of field position.

That was playing it safe.
Playing not to lose.
Still Want to play it safe. Well then Run it twice.

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 Post subject: Re: How bout that brilliant clock management by Tomlin!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:55 pm 
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SteelerChef wrote:

Generally when people post things that are obviously so far off the rails they are either logic challenged in the 1st place or locked in on defending their wrong stance.

Not my job to educate those who are out to sea


Haha. I love that your first paragraph describes yourself to a tee.

Let me ask you a simple question. Give the ball to Ben twice on 2nd and six. How often do you think he picks up the first? Likely 60% of the time? What if the defense is playing the run? Maybe 75% of the time. A first on 2nd and six largely ends the game. Two minutes as an eternity for an NFL offense.


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 Post subject: Re: How bout that brilliant clock management by Tomlin!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:55 pm 
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Stosh-67 wrote:
I'd assume the thought process at that point ...
Getting the ball back with 2:16 to play was to try and eat clock.....
And that out weighed the riskiness of passing to get a first.

I reality. We ate 16 seconds before the punt.

Handed ball back to KC on their own 44 after a nice punt return.
With an offense that was moving the ball.
1:42. On the clock.
A time out in hand.
And needing about 20-25 yards to get in FG range.

I'm thinking most on this board was in...
"Is this really happening mode"

Same spot.... Down the road.
Play to win.
And not to lose.


FG range didn't really matter there, Stosh.

Agreed though....priority has to be getting the first down....if we pick up the first down on a 3rd down play, KC at most would end with about 40 seconds left to travel length of field for TD. Was a little reminiscent of 3rd & fuckin' 6 vs. Jax in 07 playoffs. Although, to be fair, we had rushed for about 30 yards total in that game,and Ben was throwing the ball all over the lot in the 2nd half. Benefit of doubt....we were running so well...nah, we had 2nd & 12, right? Gotta throw in that spot.


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 Post subject: Re: How bout that brilliant clock management by Tomlin!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:58 pm 
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swissvale72 wrote:
Stosh-67 wrote:
I'd assume the thought process at that point ...
Getting the ball back with 2:16 to play was to try and eat clock.....
And that out weighed the riskiness of passing to get a first.

I reality. We ate 16 seconds before the punt.

Handed ball back to KC on their own 44 after a nice punt return.
With an offense that was moving the ball.
1:42. On the clock.
A time out in hand.
And needing about 20-25 yards to get in FG range.

I'm thinking most on this board was in...
"Is this really happening mode"

Same spot.... Down the road.
Play to win.
And not to lose.


FG range didn't really matter there, Stosh.

Agreed though....priority has to be getting the first down....if we pick up the first down on a 3rd down play, KC at most would end with about 40 seconds left to travel length of field for TD. Was a little reminiscent of 3rd & fuckin' 6 vs. Jax in 07 playoffs. Although, to be fair, we had rushed for about 30 yards total in that game,and Ben was throwing the ball all over the lot in the 2nd half. Benefit of doubt....we were running so well...nah, we had 2nd & 12, right? Gotta throw in that spot.


Also, saves yourself time if you don't pick up the first in case KC scored. If KC doesn't score, you'd still be able to run out the clock. KC wasn't going to run out of time before downs.


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 Post subject: Re: How bout that brilliant clock management by Tomlin!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:59 pm 
I would seriously go Buddy Ryan on most of you if you were the OC on my team.....lol


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 Post subject: Re: How bout that brilliant clock management by Tomlin!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:09 pm 
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SP wrote:
I hated the punt 4th and 2 from the 35 yard line late in the game. Why not go for the dagger instead of a punt that nets you 15 yards of field position.


Agree. A complete pussy call there. I wasn't able to really start paying attention until the 4th quarter at work. I really thought that call would come back to bite them. I have zero confidence putting the game in the hands of this defense, especially with the big gains they've given up on the ground.

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 Post subject: Re: How bout that brilliant clock management by Tomlin!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:10 pm 
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SteelerChef wrote:
I would seriously go Buddy Ryan on most of you if you were the OC on my team.....lol


Can your fat ass even throw a punch without falling over? Haha.


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