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 Post subject: Re: All 22 look at Mitchell "dirty hit"
PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:30 pm 
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I don’t know about flagrant, but Smiff’s shitty play sure was fragrant.

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 Post subject: Re: All 22 look at Mitchell "dirty hit"
PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:39 pm 
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He would have been flagged for the facemask anyway. The 15 yard kind of facemask. Not a fan of Mitchell period, he plays out of control when he isn't taking a terrible angles and missing textbook tackles. He looks for the kill shot on the ball carrier instead of simply wrapping up and taking him down to the ground. Mitchell is a liability in both the run and pass defense. Mitchell has slowed in the last few seasons and he's never been a ballhawk so my hope is he's phased out by some new blood at FS going forward. Or gets and stays injured. Either Wilcox emerges as the next man up candidate or they draft Mitchell's replacement in 2018. I don't care that he was blocked by his own teammate into a compromising position that cost his team. He is consistently a flag producer every season and most the time it's something Stupid that he knows better to do but prefers to play out of control. It might be acceptable if dude could tackle, intercept an occasional pass or two maybe even force a fumble now and again but Mitchell misses more 'textbook' tackles than he accrues. And he's always late to the ball/player because he takes shitty angles and is slow to boot. To say dude is a disappointing embarrassment is an understatement. JMO


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 Post subject: Re: All 22 look at Mitchell "dirty hit"
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:11 am 
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steelclan wrote:
On play Mitchell and Chickillo had clear shot on Smith; both whiffed. They both then turned and tried to run after Smith. Chickillo runs into Mitchell and trips him. MItchell then falls directly into back of Smith's legs. It was a PF yes but no way Mitchell aimed at lower legs he simply tripped. Media had a field day with "dirty hit" narrative I bet not one of them makes correction.


I said this in the game thread (Didn't see the trip but thought Mitchell started his move before Smith threw).

The guys that just hate Mitchell of course shouted me down.

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 Post subject: Re: All 22 look at Mitchell "dirty hit"
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:04 pm 
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He would have been flagged for the facemask anyway. The 15 yard kind of facemask. Not a fan of Mitchell period, he plays out of control when he isn't taking a terrible angles and missing textbook tackles. He looks for the kill shot on the ball carrier instead of simply wrapping up and taking him down to the ground. Mitchell is a liability in both the run and pass defense. Mitchell has slowed in the last few seasons and he's never been a ballhawk so my hope is he's phased out by some new blood at FS going forward. Or gets and stays injured. Either Wilcox emerges as the next man up candidate or they draft Mitchell's replacement in 2018. I don't care that he was blocked by his own teammate into a compromising position that cost his team. He is consistently a flag producer every season and most the time it's something Stupid that he knows better to do but prefers to play out of control. It might be acceptable if dude could tackle, intercept an occasional pass or two maybe even force a fumble now and again but Mitchell misses more 'textbook' tackles than he accrues. And he's always late to the ball/player because he takes shitty angles and is slow to boot. To say dude is a disappointing embarrassment is an understatement. JMO


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 Post subject: Re: All 22 look at Mitchell "dirty hit"
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:09 pm 
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He would have been flagged for the facemask anyway. The 15 yard kind of facemask. Not a fan of Mitchell period, he plays out of control when he isn't taking a terrible angles and missing textbook tackles. He looks for the kill shot on the ball carrier instead of simply wrapping up and taking him down to the ground. Mitchell is a liability in both the run and pass defense. Mitchell has slowed in the last few seasons and he's never been a ballhawk so my hope is he's phased out by some new blood at FS going forward. Or gets and stays injured. Either Wilcox emerges as the next man up candidate or they draft Mitchell's replacement in 2018. I don't care that he was blocked by his own teammate into a compromising position that cost his team. He is consistently a flag producer every season and most the time it's something Stupid that he knows better to do but prefers to play out of control. It might be acceptable if dude could tackle, intercept an occasional pass or two maybe even force a fumble now and again but Mitchell misses more 'textbook' tackles than he accrues. And he's always late to the ball/player because he takes shitty angles and is slow to boot. To say dude is a disappointing embarrassment is an understatement. JMO


Isn't 15 yards the only variety of facemask, anymore? And yeah, Mitchell has been a goat several times in his career, I'm just saying that, opinions of him in general aside, he had a competent start vs. a very good offense on Sunday afternoon. If he can keep that level of play up, SBI.


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 Post subject: Re: All 22 look at Mitchell "dirty hit"
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:15 pm 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
He would have been flagged for the facemask anyway. The 15 yard kind of facemask. Not a fan of Mitchell period, he plays out of control when he isn't taking a terrible angles and missing textbook tackles. He looks for the kill shot on the ball carrier instead of simply wrapping up and taking him down to the ground. Mitchell is a liability in both the run and pass defense. Mitchell has slowed in the last few seasons and he's never been a ballhawk so my hope is he's phased out by some new blood at FS going forward. Or gets and stays injured. Either Wilcox emerges as the next man up candidate or they draft Mitchell's replacement in 2018. I don't care that he was blocked by his own teammate into a compromising position that cost his team. He is consistently a flag producer every season and most the time it's something Stupid that he knows better to do but prefers to play out of control. It might be acceptable if dude could tackle, intercept an occasional pass or two maybe even force a fumble now and again but Mitchell misses more 'textbook' tackles than he accrues. And he's always late to the ball/player because he takes shitty angles and is slow to boot. To say dude is a disappointing embarrassment is an understatement. JMO


Consistent flag producer? Do you have evidence to back this up? If you do please feel free to share it. Liability? Based on what exactly? The play some want to blame on him where Hilton blitz likely saved a TD? Yeah that was Burns responsibility all day long. Jags ran same fucking play last week and what do you know? Burns had deep coverage responsibility.

Mitchell is by no means a pro bowler but the need to classify a player based on perception and not what actually happens on this board is chronic. It reveals posters that don't bother to watch games but love to rush to tag, label someone based on anger over one or two plays.

Marcus Gilbert a mere few years ago was a prime example of this nonsense. Instead of rushing to fit everything into what you perceive, try actually breaking down a player's entire game and not sprinting for the lighter fluid because you have confirmation bias syndrome.


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 Post subject: Re: All 22 look at Mitchell "dirty hit"
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:12 pm 
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steelclan wrote:
Steelafan77 wrote:
He would have been flagged for the facemask anyway. The 15 yard kind of facemask. Not a fan of Mitchell period, he plays out of control when he isn't taking a terrible angles and missing textbook tackles. He looks for the kill shot on the ball carrier instead of simply wrapping up and taking him down to the ground. Mitchell is a liability in both the run and pass defense. Mitchell has slowed in the last few seasons and he's never been a ballhawk so my hope is he's phased out by some new blood at FS going forward. Or gets and stays injured. Either Wilcox emerges as the next man up candidate or they draft Mitchell's replacement in 2018. I don't care that he was blocked by his own teammate into a compromising position that cost his team. He is consistently a flag producer every season and most the time it's something Stupid that he knows better to do but prefers to play out of control. It might be acceptable if dude could tackle, intercept an occasional pass or two maybe even force a fumble now and again but Mitchell misses more 'textbook' tackles than he accrues. And he's always late to the ball/player because he takes shitty angles and is slow to boot. To say dude is a disappointing embarrassment is an understatement. JMO


Consistent flag producer? Do you have evidence to back this up? If you do please feel free to share it. Liability? Based on what exactly? The play some want to blame on him where Hilton blitz likely saved a TD? Yeah that was Burns responsibility all day long. Jags ran same fucking play last week and what do you know? Burns had deep coverage responsibility.

Mitchell is by no means a pro bowler but the need to classify a player based on perception and not what actually happens on this board is chronic. It reveals posters that don't bother to watch games but love to rush to tag, label someone based on anger over one or two plays.

Marcus Gilbert a mere few years ago was a prime example of this nonsense. Instead of rushing to fit everything into what you perceive, try actually breaking down a player's entire game and not sprinting for the lighter fluid because you have confirmation bias syndrome.

Excellent, excellent post Clan!

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 Post subject: Re: All 22 look at Mitchell "dirty hit"
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 Post subject: Re: All 22 look at Mitchell "dirty hit"
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:55 pm 
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It's not about pro bowls dude. It's about simple football 101. Mitchell is constantly being flagged for stupid shit. Misses assignments by either over running the play as it unfolds, missing textbook tackles, takes lame angles to the ball/carrier and worst yet tries to headhunt far too often making himself an easy target for the flag(s). You'd have to be blind not to see Mitchell is a liability. Oh, and fuck your sheepeople theory bullshit. End of Story.
When was the last Mitchell INT? When was the last Mitchell forced fumble? How consistent are those INT's and FF's over his season's? When was the last Mitchell missed tackle? When was the last Mitchell penalty? When was the last time you watched Mitchell out raced to the sideline and left in the dust? BTW, there used to be the 5 yard type facemask. Guess they've changed that rule? Ok. Read the fucking link AirRescueFF posted. "Mitchell was fined as a repeat offender, having already accumulated two fines for unnecessary roughness." Just 6 games into this season! :lol: moving on.


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 Post subject: Re: All 22 look at Mitchell "dirty hit"
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:08 pm 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
It's not about pro bowls dude. It's about simple football 101. Mitchell is constantly being flagged for stupid shit. Misses assignments by either over running the play as it unfolds, missing textbook tackles, takes lame angles to the ball/carrier and worst yet tries to headhunt far too often making himself an easy target for the flag(s). You'd have to be blind not to see Mitchell is a liability. Oh, and fuck your sheepeople theory bullshit. End of Story.
When was the last Mitchell INT? When was the last Mitchell forced fumble? How consistent are those INT's and FF's over his season's? When was the last Mitchell missed tackle? When was the last Mitchell penalty? When was the last time you watched Mitchell out raced to the sideline and left in the dust? BTW, there used to be the 5 yard type facemask. Guess they've changed that rule? Ok. Read the fucking link AirRescueFF posted. "Mitchell was fined as a repeat offender, having already accumulated two fines for unnecessary roughness." Just 6 games into this season! :lol: moving on.


Ya, I’m with Clan on this. This post isn’t really analysis. It’s basically perception and bias over facts. Mitchell has tremendous warts, but this post is a bit over the top.


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