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 Post subject: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:00 am 
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http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/stee ... 1710260199

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
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Because Haley.

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
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Instead of looking to improve the manner of offence, it is pointing to the unimaginative offence which has all the tools but cannot score the points. Unless the team can score the points, how does it expect a team like NE?


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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
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They've scored 147, deduct 7 for blocked punt TD

So 140 total

Divide by 7 games

20ppg

Unstoppable

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BarryFoster wrote:
They've scored 147, deduct 7 for blocked punt TD

So 140 total

Divide by 7 games

20ppg

Unstoppable


minus the safety its down to 138 points.
Divide by 7 and its a shade under 20 point average.
Still unstoppable

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:06 am 
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That being said.

I have to Trust the Process and believe the offense is taking baby steps and will eventually score more TDs than Fg's

I think they crack the 30+ points this Sunday night on prime time television.

And yes, I am a Sixers fan.

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
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Stosh-67 wrote:
That being said.

I have to Trust the Process and believe the offense is taking baby steps and will eventually score more TDs than Fg's

I think they crack the 30+ points this Sunday night on prime time television.

And yes, I am a Sixers fan.


Me too

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
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Stosh-67 wrote:
That being said.

I have to Trust the Process and believe the offense is taking baby steps and will eventually score more TDs than Fg's

I think they crack the 30+ points this Sunday night on prime time television.

And yes, I am a Sixers fan.

At least you're not a Cryers fan, stosh, Like some on this esteemed website. At least I don't think you are


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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
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What a piece of shit article. Bouchette as usual is carrying water for these morons and that's not even the worst part of it.

That fucking Haley quote about playing conservatively is enough to give me a fucking ulcer.

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:41 am 
Games are in fact unique and how they unfold matters in as far as how to persue the offense.

Ive been pretty damn happy the last 2 games.

Picking apart minutiae isnt always productive.


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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:43 am 
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What a piece of shit article. Bouchette as usual is carrying water for these morons and that's not even the worst part of it.

That fucking Haley quote about playing conservatively is enough to give me a fucking ulcer.


I agree somewhat.

There are instances where playing conservative is the right way to go tho


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SteelerChef wrote:
fortythree wrote:
What a piece of shit article. Bouchette as usual is carrying water for these morons and that's not even the worst part of it.

That fucking Haley quote about playing conservatively is enough to give me a fucking ulcer.


I agree somewhat.

There are instances where playing conservative is the right way to go tho


I don't see anyone saying otherwise.

But for the general philosophy to be "eh our defense is good let's not push our luck on offense" you're just asking to lose to the New Englands of the league.

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:49 am 
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SteelerChef wrote:
fortythree wrote:
What a piece of shit article. Bouchette as usual is carrying water for these morons and that's not even the worst part of it.

That fucking Haley quote about playing conservatively is enough to give me a fucking ulcer.


I agree somewhat.

There are instances where playing conservative is the right way to go tho


I don't see anyone saying otherwise.

But for the general philosophy to be "eh our defense is good let's not push our luck on offense" you're just asking to lose to the New Englands of the league.


Agreed. Haley is horrible.


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Will we have to score more than 20 points to beat NE in the playoffs?

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Will we have to score more than 20 points to beat NE in the playoffs?


They'll probably have to score more than 20 to win this week.

Imagine being New England and seeing Haley say this shit. They'd probably laugh their asses off.

It's almost like the Steelers feel bad about being good and don't want to embarrass teams.

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fortythree wrote:
What a piece of shit article. Bouchette as usual is carrying water for these morons and that's not even the worst part of it.

That fucking Haley quote about playing conservatively is enough to give me a fucking ulcer.

Aww... do we detect a wee bit of jealousy from media boy?? Make no mistake… The sniveling little bitch 43, the failed journalist, would kill to have had the journalistic career of Ed bouchette.


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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
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fortythree wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
Will we have to score more than 20 points to beat NE in the playoffs?


They'll probably have to score more than 20 to win this week.

Imagine being New England and seeing Haley say this shit. They'd probably laugh their asses off.

It's almost like the Steelers feel bad about being good and don't want to embarrass teams.


Helps keep Boswell ready for making big playoff FG's by giving him this many regular season opportunities. Good strategy. Will need 11-12 FGs vs NE to advance.

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
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SteelerChef wrote:
Games are in fact unique and how they unfold matters in as far as how to persue the offense.

Ive been pretty damn happy the last 2 games.

Picking apart minutiae isnt always productive.


The opposite of the unique and particular is the common and universal.

Have you noticed that what is common and universal to every Steelers game thus far this year is that the offense has failed to score at least 30 points?

Refusing to recognize trends or the obvious is not always helpful.

Color me happy as well, however.

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
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swissvale72 wrote:
fortythree wrote:
What a piece of shit article. Bouchette as usual is carrying water for these morons and that's not even the worst part of it.

That fucking Haley quote about playing conservatively is enough to give me a fucking ulcer.

Aww... do we detect a wee bit of jealousy from media boy?? Make no mistake… The sniveling little bitch 43, the failed journalist, would kill to have had the journalistic career of Ed bouchette.


Holy shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant we have a good defense and STILL try for 30?
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Hopefully the red zone td percentage improves and THTDs turn into actual TDs. Anyone know the actual red zone td percentage for the Steelers. I am guessing it would have to be ranked somewhere between 18th-25th in the league?

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Attacking a long time poster's profession/career choices is really below the belt.

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BarryFoster wrote:
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BarryFoster wrote:
Will we have to score more than 20 points to beat NE in the playoffs?


They'll probably have to score more than 20 to win this week.

Imagine being New England and seeing Haley say this shit. They'd probably laugh their asses off.

It's almost like the Steelers feel bad about being good and don't want to embarrass teams.


Helps keep Boswell ready for making big playoff FG's by giving him this many regular season opportunities. Good strategy. Will need 11-12 FGs vs NE to advance.


:lol:

That's one way to look at it.

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Hopefully the red zone td percentage improves and THTDs turn into actual TDs. Anyone know the actual red zone td percentage for the Steelers. I am guessing it would have to be ranked somewhere between 18th-25th in the league?

30th...42.31%
The last 3 games, a meager 18.18%.

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BarryFoster wrote:
Stosh-67 wrote:
That being said.

I have to Trust the Process and believe the offense is taking baby steps and will eventually score more TDs than Fg's

I think they crack the 30+ points this Sunday night on prime time television.

And yes, I am a Sixers fan.


Me too

Been following the Sixers since I first started watching basketball and loved the cast of characters on the late 70's early 80's Sixers.
Of course the good Dr. Julius Erving.
Henry Bibby, Jellybean Bryant - Kobes dad.
How about the scoring punch on that 77 team. Erving, Collins, McGinnis and a young World B Free.
Daryl Dawkins and his thunderous dunks, consummate point guard Mo Cheeks, great defender Bobby Jones and his top of the key knock down jumpers.
Scoring guard Doug Collins, shot blocker Caldwell Jones off the bench, nice guard depth with Lionel Hollins and Clint Richardson.

Perennial bridesmaids to the Celtics and Lakers.

They were missing one piece and that was one Moses Malone, who led them to the promised land.
Sixers signed Moses to an offer sheet, Houston matched and they worked out a trade.
What a steal of a trade for a 2 time MVP and one of the most dominant players in the game.
Traded an 8 point, 8 rebound a game, aging journeyman in Caldwell Jones along with the Sixers first round pick in following draft.

That 82-83 team was one of the all time great teams for one season.
Three 20+ point a game starters in Moses, Dr. J and Android the scoring machine, Andrew Toney.
Cheeks the distributor, Jones the defensive 6th man, lot of nice roll players in Ivoroni, Clemen Johnson, Clint Richardson, Franklin Edwards.

But that has been it since.........lol.
Enjoyed the Barkley years, the Iverson years and some other nice players thru the years.

Just hoping now that these young kids can stay healthy.
Did not like giving up a first round pick to move up two spots for Fultz, as he is off to a rocky start.
But have to love Simmons and Embid.
Their roll players have not stepped up yet this first week of the season.

Its a process.
Anyway.
This is a Steelers Site.

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Stosh.... driving out of NYC after dropping Anthony off post Jacksonville debacle, I was listening to Mike Ferrera on WF AN. He was remembering the recently departed Connie Hawkins, who I saw a play with the Pittsburgh pipers in 1968. He said that Connie Hawkins was Julius Erving before there was Julius erving


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