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 Post subject: Re: Remaining Schedule
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:25 am 
Good point seabs....thats what came up....but i reset it and we are back #1 sorted by percentage


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For what it's worth...

I heard Stan Savran talking on his show last week about the Steelers practicing man coverage during the week but never using it in games.

He seems pretty sure they practice it and will use it at some point.

Just gotta hope the Pats game is meaningless so they can be real vanilla in preparation for the playoff meeting.

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 Post subject: Re: Remaining Schedule
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:47 am 
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For what it's worth...

I heard Stan Savran talking on his show last week about the Steelers practicing man coverage during the week but never using it in games.

He seems pretty sure they practice it and will use it at some point.

Just gotta hope the Pats game is meaningless so they can be real vanilla in preparation for the playoff meeting.


I doubt it will be meaningless....as it would require essentially a 2 game lead....

I hope they come out guns blazing .....everything on the table.....then work ideas off that for a possible playoff meeting.....

The Steelers wont win a clever bastard contest with cheats.....we have the tools to beat them


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 Post subject: Re: Remaining Schedule
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:01 am 
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SteelerChef wrote:
Good point seabs....thats what came up....but i reset it and we are back #1 sorted by percentage

Glad seabs figured that out! Would hate to lose the #1 seed on a sorting error.


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 Post subject: Re: Remaining Schedule
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:16 am 
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SteelerChef wrote:
Good point seabs....thats what came up....but i reset it and we are back #1 sorted by percentage

Glad seabs figured that out! Would hate to lose the #1 seed on a sorting error.

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 Post subject: Re: Remaining Schedule
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SteelerChef wrote:
Good point seabs....thats what came up....but i reset it and we are back #1 sorted by percentage


But I'm guessing it's just going off Conference Win%. Both have 1 AFC loss, but PIT has 1 more AFC win so I think that's why we are the #1 seed.

Practically speaking, that's pretty much a tie. I'd like to know where we stand on Strength of Victory vs. NE. I'm surprised we only trail KC by 1, but if NE beats PIT then that will almost certainly seal SOV for them, not to mention the teams in the AFCE look to be doing quite a bit better than the AFCN.

Pretty simple really. We beat KC already, and they'll drop at least one more. We beat NE, and we have to drop at least two others to lose home field. I don't expect TEN/JAX to be players in this race - would be shocked if either wins more than 10 games.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:27 pm 
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Kodiak wrote:
SteelerChef wrote:
Good point seabs....thats what came up....but i reset it and we are back #1 sorted by percentage


But I'm guessing it's just going off Conference Win%. Both have 1 AFC loss, but PIT has 1 more AFC win so I think that's why we are the #1 seed.

Practically speaking, that's pretty much a tie. I'd like to know where we stand on Strength of Victory vs. NE. I'm surprised we only trail KC by 1, but if NE beats PIT then that will almost certainly seal SOV for them, not to mention the teams in the AFCE look to be doing quite a bit better than the AFCN.

Pretty simple really. We beat KC already, and they'll drop at least one more. We beat NE, and we have to drop at least two others to lose home field. I don't expect TEN/JAX to be players in this race - would be shocked if either wins more than 10 games.


That's more or less how I look at it too. With victory in hand over KC, a victory over NE will likely be the only tiebreakers needed. And I don't see either of those teams running the table in their other games to finish at 13-3. 12-4 more likely. AFC south division champion 10-6, I predict. Even though Steelers may well be favorites in every game they play in the second half, it's unrealistic to imagine this team (though it would certainly be nice) suddenly developing consistency from week to week to finish better than 12-4. The Eagles may be the only team in the NFL this year to finish better than 12-4. Biggest surprise of the season for me so far is the Rams. Didn't see that coming.


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That's more or less how I look at it too. With victory in hand over KC, a victory over NE will likely be the only tiebreakers needed.


Yeah, I can't see NE losing 3 of their last 8 unless that includes PIT.

Basically, if we lose to NE we are most likely looking at a #2 seed. I'd add beating NE doubly sweetens the pot, as it could mean they have to go to Arrowhead in the Divisional Round, and that's after having to host a dangerous WC team the week before (I don't think BUF/JAX/TEN will be a pushover for anyone).

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 Post subject: Re: Remaining Schedule
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Quick turnaround to play a Thursday night game. These games are all about money and you can understand the players hating to play an NFL game with only 3 days rest in between. I maintain these games strongly favor the home team, more so even than usual. I expect AB to have a big game after struggling to make an impact right until the end on Sunday. If there's one thing we've learned about AB's mentality, it's that he does not like it when his numbers slip. Titans, like the Jaguars, 6-3, and poised to make the playoffs. Anyone else notice how weak the AFC is looking once you get beyond 5 teams? I have no idea who the 6th playoff team will be in the AFC. 5 teams already seem like locks, based on current record and remaining schedule.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:04 pm 
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Will-the-Shake wrote:
Quick turnaround to play a Thursday night game. These games are all about money and you can understand the players hating to play an NFL game with only 3 days rest in between. I maintain these games strongly favor the home team, more so even than usual. I expect AB to have a big game after struggling to make an impact right until the end on Sunday. If there's one thing we've learned about AB's mentality, it's that he does not like it when his numbers slip. Titans, like the Jaguars, 6-3, and poised to make the playoffs. Anyone else notice how weak the AFC is looking once you get beyond 5 teams? I have no idea who the 6th playoff team will be in the AFC. 5 teams already seem like locks, based on current record and remaining schedule.


I was thinking that way, especially since it seemed like when TNF initially came along it was seemingly such a huge advantage for home teams. But so far this year road teams are 5-4 straight up on TNF, and underdogs are 6-3 ATS. Steelers are only 5-4 ATS this year.

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 Post subject: Re: Remaining Schedule
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TNF is huge. Did not expect TEN and JAX to be 6-3. Lose to TEN and it becomes a distinct possibility we could end-up with a 3 or 4 seed.


I haven't examined the schedule, but JAX looks to be pretty legit. #1 in points allowed, #8 in scoring.

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 Post subject: Re: Remaining Schedule
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Will-the-Shake wrote:
Quick turnaround to play a Thursday night game. These games are all about money and you can understand the players hating to play an NFL game with only 3 days rest in between. I maintain these games strongly favor the home team, more so even than usual. I expect AB to have a big game after struggling to make an impact right until the end on Sunday. If there's one thing we've learned about AB's mentality, it's that he does not like it when his numbers slip. Titans, like the Jaguars, 6-3, and poised to make the playoffs. Anyone else notice how weak the AFC is looking once you get beyond 5 teams? I have no idea who the 6th playoff team will be in the AFC. 5 teams already seem like locks, based on current record and remaining schedule.


I was thinking that way, especially since it seemed like when TNF initially came along it was seemingly such a huge advantage for home teams. But so far this year road teams are 5-4 straight up on TNF, and underdogs are 6-3 ATS. Steelers are only 5-4 ATS this year.


Interesting. I wasn’t sure about this year in terms of the Thursday games. Unless the Steelers are playing or it’s an essential SBI game I often end up missing it. For the longest time I had the impression that there were a disproportionate number of blowout wins for the home team. Not surprising that Steelers are only 5-4 ATS this year. A lot of expectation that eventually this offense has to bust loose, which hasn’t yet happened. And Tomlin has long struggled as a road favorite.


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 Post subject: Re: Remaining Schedule
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Will-the-Shake wrote:
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Will-the-Shake wrote:
Quick turnaround to play a Thursday night game. These games are all about money and you can understand the players hating to play an NFL game with only 3 days rest in between. I maintain these games strongly favor the home team, more so even than usual. I expect AB to have a big game after struggling to make an impact right until the end on Sunday. If there's one thing we've learned about AB's mentality, it's that he does not like it when his numbers slip. Titans, like the Jaguars, 6-3, and poised to make the playoffs. Anyone else notice how weak the AFC is looking once you get beyond 5 teams? I have no idea who the 6th playoff team will be in the AFC. 5 teams already seem like locks, based on current record and remaining schedule.


I was thinking that way, especially since it seemed like when TNF initially came along it was seemingly such a huge advantage for home teams. But so far this year road teams are 5-4 straight up on TNF, and underdogs are 6-3 ATS. Steelers are only 5-4 ATS this year.


Interesting. I wasn’t sure about this year in terms of the Thursday games. Unless the Steelers are playing or it’s an essential SBI game I often end up missing it. For the longest time I had the impression that there were a disproportionate number of blowout wins for the home team. Not surprising that Steelers are only 5-4 ATS this year. A lot of expectation that eventually this offense has to bust loose, which hasn’t yet happened. And Tomlin has long struggled as a road favorite.


Playing devil's advocate to my prior post, but I usually trust the Steelers at home in a night game unless they're dealing with major injuries.

Pretty wild to think it's the middle of November and we've only had 3 home games so far. Over half the league has had 5 home games to this point, no one else less than 4. To be 7-2 and to have 5 of your last 7 at home? Gotta hope we take advantage, and the Steelers under Tomlin have been a consistently great closing team.

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 Post subject: Re: Remaining Schedule
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Playing devil's advocate to my prior post, but I usually trust the Steelers at home in a night game unless they're dealing with major injuries.

Pretty wild to think it's the middle of November and we've only had 3 home games so far. Over half the league has had 5 home games to this point, no one else less than 4. To be 7-2 and to have 5 of your last 7 at home? Gotta hope we take advantage, and the Steelers under Tomlin have been a consistently great closing team.[/quote]

Tomlin’s ability to get the Steelers to consistently play well down the stretch has been as much of a trademark of his coaching resume as anything else. Anyone who trashes him is being very unfair if they don’t acknowledge he’s been very strong in that respect.


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Here’s a quick look at the remaining schedules for AFC teams in the mix for a bye. There are only 3. Steelers have what amounts to 2.5 game lead over likely division winner KC and possible division winner Tenn. Game against Patriots should decide home field. I’m not confident with the prospect of Pats losing one of their division games but you never know. Jags looked a bit shaky recently. They do have win over Steelers, but I’d be surprised if they finished better than 4-2 over the last 6. Relatively easy schedule but this is no juggernaut of a team. Next up for Steelers is GB in prime time. No nonsense aggressive mindset will get the job done comfortably.

Steelers:

Green Bay
at Bengals
Ravens
New England
at Texans
Clowns

New England:

Miami
at Buffalo
at Miami
at Steelers
Buffalo
Jets


Jacksonville:

at Arizona
Indy
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 Post subject: Re: Remaining Schedule
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Those schedules look pretty equal to me (ignoring home/away).

CIN and BAL really are no gimmes, especially since that week CIN's playoff chances are pretty much on the line. BAL almost always plays us tough, and THEIR playoff chances will be on the line. Of course, you have NE.

NE has PIT, and then I think a good chance they drop one of those 4 AFCE games. They won't drop 2 if home field is on the line having already beaten PIT.

JAX has SEA and then TEN. On the other hand, JAX has been an opportunistic team, and December historically is not very kind to those type of teams.


Really no excuse for PIT not to get at least the #2 seed. You don't want to catch a surging LA or BAL in a wildcard game. Now, if LA does somehow get a WC....would be an interesting prospect of them going to the #1 seed after their bye, where NE has been vulnerable in the past. But then the #2 seed might see JAX, so those scenarios are pretty equal...although I think LA would do better on the road in NE.

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Those schedules look pretty equal to me (ignoring home/away).

CIN and BAL really are no gimmes, especially since that week CIN's playoff chances are pretty much on the line. BAL almost always plays us tough, and THEIR playoff chances will be on the line. Of course, you have NE.

NE has PIT, and then I think a good chance they drop one of those 4 AFCE games. They won't drop 2 if home field is on the line having already beaten PIT.

JAX has SEA and then TEN. On the other hand, JAX has been an opportunistic team, and December historically is not very kind to those type of teams.


Really no excuse for PIT not to get at least the #2 seed. You don't want to catch a surging LA or BAL in a wildcard game. Now, if LA does somehow get a WC....would be an interesting prospect of them going to the #1 seed after their bye, where NE has been vulnerable in the past. But then the #2 seed might see JAX, so those scenarios are pretty equal...although I think LA would do better on the road in NE.

Chargers have to win out, for all intents and purposes-- if they do that they're just as likely to be the #4 seed as a WC. Hard to imagine they win suddenly flip the switch and become the 2016 or 2005 Steelers... but who knows.

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Chargers have to win out, for all intents and purposes-- if they do that they're just as likely to be the #4 seed as a WC. Hard to imagine they win suddenly flip the switch and become the 2016 or 2005 Steelers... but who knows.


Without looking at potential tie-breakers, they are 1 back of BAL (who has to play @PIT), and 1 back of MIA (who has to play NE). And they are only 2 back of TEN, and KC in their division. LA has lost a lot several close games, and while their schedule isn't easy they are all very winnable games.

Last WC will probably have 8 wins, 9 max....7 is a real possibility.

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Chargers have to win out, for all intents and purposes-- if they do that they're just as likely to be the #4 seed as a WC. Hard to imagine they win suddenly flip the switch and become the 2016 or 2005 Steelers... but who knows.


Without looking at potential tie-breakers, they are 1 back of BAL (who has to play @PIT), and 1 back of MIA (who has to play NE). And they are only 2 back of TEN, and KC in their division. LA has lost a lot several close games, and while their schedule isn't easy they are all very winnable games.

Last WC will probably have 8 wins, 9 max....7 is a real possibility.

they lose the tiebreaker right now to KC, BAL, & TEN. All three of those teams are ahead of them and the schedules for BAL/TEN are so fucking lame it's hard to find enough losses. KC is fading a little but would have to pretty much collapse to get caught.

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