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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:00 pm 
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ask the Browns how that is working out. They are winning the draft !!!!

And why give up a 2nd round pick for a QB that will have to be franchised? Garoppolo is an UFA next season.


Browns fans watching Deshaun Watson on Sundays would probably disagree with you there.


Get with the program!! The draft is won by the number of DRAFT PICKS!!!! Not by the players performance. Browns for the victory!!! :D

Look at all the picks they got for Wentz. WIN!!

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Gase was bitching about guys not putting in effort.


I'm not sure I wouldn't put Gase and his staff on notice rather than dump the young, cost-controlled Pro Bowl RB for peanuts. They lost Tanneyhill when? You really expected the "You can do it!" H.S. rah rah BS and Jay Cutler to inspire guys over a 16 game grind (now with no bye week)? It's a lost season. You don't compound that loss by giving up useful assets for nothing.


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Jay Ajayi to the Eagles for a 4th is a great get for the eagles. Team to beat in the NFC


They were 5th in the league in rushing. I don't recall Ajayi being about to do anything more than what they have now


Please rewatch recent regular season Pittsburgh vs Miami game.

Blount has been okay, but hasn't matched last year, and their depth at the position was nowhere near Ajayi's caliber.

If I'm the Iggles, I do this deal just to keep him off the Cryboys' roster.

Too bad he can't play LT.

I'm still perplexed as to why the Dolphins only wanted a 4th rounder.


Ajayi has/had a bum knee coming out of college. Arthritic, bone on bone stuff from what I recall. His career won't be a long one. Miami has been run blocking for shit this season. I don't think Walter Payton would produce behind them. The dolphins seem to have two young RBs in Drake and Williams whom they like. I think Ajayi's health is a ticking time bomb.

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Thanks, RS. That makes the most sense of anything I've seen so far regarding that lowball return on investment.


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Panthers trade Wr Kelvin Benjamin to the Bills for a 2018 3rd and 7th


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 Post subject: Re: Garrapalo to 49ers
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Panthers trade Wr Kelvin Benjamin to the Bills for a 2018 3rd and 7th

B2B will find that interesting. I don't think I've ever seen a bigger fan of his.

Here's another interesting almost trade apparently....

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Browns attempted to trade for Bengals No. 2 QB A.J. McCarron before Tuesday's deadline.

Per Schefter, a deal was "close," but couldn't be finalized. It's the first we've heard of McCarron since August, where his name was a mainstay in trade rumors. The Browns are casting a wide net at quarterback, but continue to lack decisiveness as they search for an answer under center. McCarron is headed for restricted free agency next offseason.


Related: Browns Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Oct 31 - 4:40 PM


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I sincerely don't understand why Carolina traded Benjamin. Can someone explain that?

And apparently the Browns were rejected in both the Garropolo and McCarron trades. Makes you wonder if both QB's lobbied against it. Edit: Apparently not, per DP39's post.

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DP39 wrote:
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Panthers trade Wr Kelvin Benjamin to the Bills for a 2018 3rd and 7th

B2B will find that interesting. I don't think I've ever seen a bigger fan of his.

Here's another interesting almost trade apparently....

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Browns attempted to trade for Bengals No. 2 QB A.J. McCarron before Tuesday's deadline.

Per Schefter, a deal was "close," but couldn't be finalized. It's the first we've heard of McCarron since August, where his name was a mainstay in trade rumors. The Browns are casting a wide net at quarterback, but continue to lack decisiveness as they search for an answer under center. McCarron is headed for restricted free agency next offseason.


Related: Browns Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Oct 31 - 4:40 PM

Here's more to the story....

Bengals and Browns actually agreed to AJ McCarron trade at 3:55 pm, per source involved. Bengals approved trade to NFL, Browns did not. :lol:


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Panthers trade Wr Kelvin Benjamin to the Bills for a 2018 3rd and 7th
Well that's a surprise.

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 Post subject: Re: Garrapalo to 49ers
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Pabst wrote:
I sincerely don't understand why Carolina traded Benjamin. Can someone explain that?

And apparently the Browns were rejected in both the Garropolo and McCarron trades. Makes you wonder if both QB's lobbied against it.

He's inconsistent at best. Hurt and out of shape a lot too. I'd say he's lazy and wants to get by on his natural talent more than anything. Not traits Jerry Richardson or Ron Rivera look for in a player is my guess.


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DP39 wrote:
Here's more to the story....

Bengals and Browns actually agreed to AJ McCarron trade at 3:55 pm, per source involved. Bengals approved trade to NFL, Browns did not. :lol:

https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/925462283001716736
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Browns miss a real opportunity to add a quarterback they could have benched three times before the end of the season.

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DP39 wrote:
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I sincerely don't understand why Carolina traded Benjamin. Can someone explain that?

And apparently the Browns were rejected in both the Garropolo and McCarron trades. Makes you wonder if both QB's lobbied against it.

He's inconsistent at best. Hurt and out of shape a lot too. I'd say he's lazy and wants to get by on his natural talent more than anything. Not traits Jerry Richardson or Ron Rivera look for in a player is my guess.

That's fair. It's just odd since they're competing for their division and don't have a terribly good group at receiver.....yet they gave him up for only a 3rd & 7th.

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 Post subject: Re: Garrapalo to 49ers
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They can draft another smallish, pass-catching RB for next year with that 3rd rounder, Pabst.

Realistically, Funchess and Benjamin kinda make each other redundant, no?


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 Post subject: Re: Garrapalo to 49ers
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Pabst wrote:
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I sincerely don't understand why Carolina traded Benjamin. Can someone explain that?

And apparently the Browns were rejected in both the Garropolo and McCarron trades. Makes you wonder if both QB's lobbied against it.

He's inconsistent at best. Hurt and out of shape a lot too. I'd say he's lazy and wants to get by on his natural talent more than anything. Not traits Jerry Richardson or Ron Rivera look for in a player is my guess.

That's fair. It's just odd since they're competing for their division and don't have a terribly good group at receiver.....yet they gave him up for only a 3rd & 7th.

He wants to be paid next year and the Panthers didn't plan on keeping him. Better to get something now I guess. They have his replacement in Funchess and it allows them to get Curtis Samuel on the field a lot more now. Since drafting them, Samuel and McCaffrey on the field at the same time was always the future plan, imo. Future is now, apparently.


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Pabst wrote:
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Here's more to the story....

Bengals and Browns actually agreed to AJ McCarron trade at 3:55 pm, per source involved. Bengals approved trade to NFL, Browns did not. :lol:

https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/925462283001716736
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Browns miss a real opportunity to add a quarterback they could have benched three times before the end of the season.

Man, how would you like to be a fly on the wall of the Bungals QB room tonight or tomorrow? :o :lol:


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IDK, man-- Funchess has never outperformed Benjamin. Look at the stats this year:

Kelvin Benjamin 8G... 51 targets... 32 rec... 475 yds... 14.8 YPR... 2 TD... 62.7% rec/targets
Devin Funchess 8G... 58 targets... 33 rec... 357 yds... 10.8 YPR... 3 TD... 56.9% rec/targets

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DP39 wrote:
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Panthers trade Wr Kelvin Benjamin to the Bills for a 2018 3rd and 7th

B2B will find that interesting. I don't think I've ever seen a bigger fan of his.

Here's another interesting almost trade apparently....

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Browns attempted to trade for Bengals No. 2 QB A.J. McCarron before Tuesday's deadline.

Per Schefter, a deal was "close," but couldn't be finalized. It's the first we've heard of McCarron since August, where his name was a mainstay in trade rumors. The Browns are casting a wide net at quarterback, but continue to lack decisiveness as they search for an answer under center. McCarron is headed for restricted free agency next offseason.


Related: Browns Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Oct 31 - 4:40 PM

Here's more to the story....

Bengals and Browns actually agreed to AJ McCarron trade at 3:55 pm, per source involved. Bengals approved trade to NFL, Browns did not. :lol:

THEY WERE BUSY CELEBRATING THE TRADE AND FORGOT TO HIT 'SEND.'

Dumbest franchise in the history of sports.

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THEY WERE BUSY CELEBRATING THE TRADE AND FORGOT TO HIT 'SEND.'

Dumbest franchise in the history of sports.


I might guess it was down to the wire, and CIN approved the trade expecting CLE to accept their last counter. CLE decided not to, and time ran out.

Crazy to me, though, that you just drafted Kizer and in an 0-8 season you're already fishing the back-up QB barrel. Kizer probably isn't the answer, but that offense is a dumpster fire and you have to give a guy who wasn't NFL-ready more than 5 games.

I'd say CLE was lucky they didn't do this. Get the #1 pick in the draft, trade back a few slots and grab a legit QB prospect.

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IDK, man-- Funchess has never outperformed Benjamin. Look at the stats this year:

Kelvin Benjamin 8G... 51 targets... 32 rec... 475 yds... 14.8 YPR... 2 TD... 62.7% rec/targets
Devin Funchess 8G... 58 targets... 33 rec... 357 yds... 10.8 YPR... 3 TD... 56.9% rec/targets


I hear you, but Funchess is similar, hasn't had the work ethic issues, and is cost controlled for a while longer. Still, given NO coming up fast in the rearview mirror in the division, not sure I'd have been selling.


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