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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:09 pm 
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Anybody who points to Barkley's rushing production in the OSU game and attributes it to his ability is an imbecile in the truest sense of the word.

Barkley didn't have big rushing numbers because he was getting hit in the backfield all game. As Jeemie said, the O-line has been the weak link all season. It showed, especially in the second half of that game.


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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:17 pm 
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Anybody who points to Barkley's rushing production in the OSU game and attributes it to his ability is an imbecile in the truest sense of the word.

Barkley didn't have big rushing numbers because he was getting hit in the backfield all game. As Jeemie said, the O-line has been the weak link all season. It showed, especially in the second half of that game.


Maybe....maybe not.....psu rbs....wow....that is a long line of floptastrophies....

I think Barkley will be great.....but its no sure thing


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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:25 pm 
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swissvale72 wrote:
Franco Harris, Jack Ham, Darren Perry, Jeff Hartings....just Steeler ex-Nittany Lions, just ones I can think of at the moment...all flops.


Lol.....the list of flops is damn long and you know it.....lol


Thanks Swiss. Hopefully someone will read this to the Chef


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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:39 pm 
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if you don't have good OL No RB is going post good numbers on a weekly basis.

I have a question what type of QB should the steelers target as Ben Replacement?

A gunslinger?
Runner ?

A mix of Strong Arm QB with some Mobility


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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:17 pm 
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I think Jeff Hartings and Perry fall way closer to serviceable parts than they do to Ham and Harris. You could add Jon Witman to the serviceable parts category, as well.

AQ Shipley also continues to occupy an NFL roster. The power of the pre-draft podcast.

Chef should be well aware of Witman. Played his high school ball just across the Susquehanna. Not quite as close to home as Manheim Central's own Danny Kreider, but close enough.

Was cool for almost a decade there was a Central PA fullback opening holes for the Steelers on Sundays.


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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:59 pm 
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Ice wrote:
I think Jeff Hartings and Perry fall way closer to serviceable parts than they do to Ham and Harris. You could add Jon Witman to the serviceable parts category, as well.

AQ Shipley also continues to occupy an NFL roster. The power of the pre-draft podcast.

Chef should be well aware of Witman. Played his high school ball just across the Susquehanna. Not quite as close to home as Manheim Central's own Danny Kreider, but close enough.

Was cool for almost a decade there was a Central PA fullback opening holes for the Steelers on Sundays.


No doubt!! But neither were they flops, which is STD's conclusion.


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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:13 pm 
swissvale72 wrote:
Ice wrote:
I think Jeff Hartings and Perry fall way closer to serviceable parts than they do to Ham and Harris. You could add Jon Witman to the serviceable parts category, as well.

AQ Shipley also continues to occupy an NFL roster. The power of the pre-draft podcast.

Chef should be well aware of Witman. Played his high school ball just across the Susquehanna. Not quite as close to home as Manheim Central's own Danny Kreider, but close enough.

Was cool for almost a decade there was a Central PA fullback opening holes for the Steelers on Sundays.


No doubt!! But neither were they flops, which is STD's conclusion.



Wait a sec....lol.....i didnt say they were all flops....lol

Alot are....thats undeniable....psu is way overhyped for nfl talent


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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:26 pm 
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steelmann58 wrote:

I have a question what type of QB should the steelers target as Ben Replacement?

A gunslinger?

Maybe.

steelmann58 wrote:
Runner ?


Absolutely not. I want a PASSER at the QB position. His first and foremost ability must be pin point accurate passing and the ability to pull off wins at the end. I've seen too many QB's that can run but not throw, and I want no part of it.

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A mix of Strong Arm QB with some Mobility

Sounds great if he also has the accuracy.

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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:30 pm 
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Ice wrote:
I think Jeff Hartings and Perry fall way closer to serviceable parts than they do to Ham and Harris. You could add Jon Witman to the serviceable parts category, as well.

AQ Shipley also continues to occupy an NFL roster. The power of the pre-draft podcast.

Chef should be well aware of Witman. Played his high school ball just across the Susquehanna. Not quite as close to home as Manheim Central's own Danny Kreider, but close enough.

Was cool for almost a decade there was a Central PA fullback opening holes for the Steelers on Sundays.


I would hardly call Hartings' career "serviceable" He went to 2 pro bowls, was 2nd team all pro once and first team all pro once along with starting 160 games in his career. He was a damn good player. Too bad his knees went bad and he "only" lasted 11 years.


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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:25 pm 
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I'd say he falls closer to serviceable than he does Jack Ham and Franco Harris status, and I'll stand by that.

Speaking of Steelers guards, was cool hearing Terry talk about Mean Joe and Gerry Mullins going at it in practice on TV this week.


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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:31 pm 
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Jeemie wrote:
Come on...Barkley only ran for 44 yards because the Buckeyes’ defense flat-out dominated the Lions’ OL.

Penn State’s OL has actually been a weakness all year...OSU was the first defense that could exploit that weakness.

When the starting LT went out, it got worse.


Like many NFL scouts, I didn't even watch the game. I just saw the stats. If he has an excuse because of the OL, so be it. Maybe the scouts will figure that out -- maybe they won't.

Anyway, that's all beside the point. The point I was making is this -- someone said Barkley is a sure fire NFL success, the next LT.

I say, there is NO "sure thing" when it comes to RBs translating to success in the NFL.

I pointed out 2 examples from the modern NFL from PSU: Ki-Jana Carter (1st overall Draft Pick) and Blair Thomas (2nd overall draft pick).

Coming out of PSU, both of those guys were "sure fire" NFL successes -- expectations which were reflected in their incredibly high draft positions.

They both failed spectacularly.

Barkley may indeed be the "next LT," but given PSU's history at the RB position, I wouldn't bet too much on that proposition.


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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:40 am 
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Barkley's numbers since the OSU game (21 carries/ 41 yards):

14 carries -63 yards against MSU
14 carries - 35 yards against Rutgers

definitely not LT type numbers


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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
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steel wrote:
Barkley's numbers since the OSU game (21 carries/ 41 yards):

14 carries -63 yards against MSU
14 carries - 35 yards against Rutgers

definitely not LT type numbers




Major freak athlete and RB...if you're looking strictly at his boxcscore from the last 2 or 3 weeks...you'd miss be missing out on a franchise RB...top 3 draft pick


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 Post subject: Re: Possible Steelers #1 draft pick in 2018?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:20 pm 
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I think I'm with Drama. That little kid from USC is fun to watch.


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