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 Post subject: Re: HIS RIGHT HAND IS UNDER THE BALL!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:25 pm 
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It's hard to take off the black and gold blinders but once I do, it's the correct call. Outlaw catches the ball and within the same football move reaches over the goal line and the balls moves when it hits the ground. Same thing as a recieiver jumping up into the air and catching a ball then comes down with it and ball hits the ground and moves, not a catch.

If Outlaw only would have just caught it and tried to roll in instead of reaching over....damn. Heart breaking loss, replay link below.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Steelersdepo ... 28/video/1


thanks for being rational -- without blinders, you can clearly see it was the right call -- it's a fucked up rule, but it is the right call according to the rule

This play did NOT lose the game for us

There were so many more plays



Please show me the indisputable evidence that it hit the ground. Bad call and it cost the game. Period.


I saw it on TV a thousand times dude


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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:29 pm 
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Apparently people have developed an ability to see through human arms. Awesome.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL catch rule on a player going to the ground
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:32 pm 
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Yeah, meanwhile the "real" Steelers fans are screaming for coaches to be fired, wanting the Steelers to forfeit their last two regular season games, and talking about how the NFL is rigged and a conspiracy was in place for the Patriots to win.

You know, the real fans.

:lol:

They're just more passionate than the rest of us, TB ;)

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 Post subject: Re: HIS RIGHT HAND IS UNDER THE BALL!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:12 am 
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Jeemie wrote:
I can't fault Jesse for reaching out to try and get the ball over the goal line. If he had tried to roll, he wouldn't have made it...he would have been touched before he got in.

I will blame him for not making sure he held on to the ball. How fucking hard can that be? Come on man! Just grip the fucker. Guys do it all the time.


To be fair, it was raining pretty bad


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 Post subject: Re: HIS RIGHT HAND IS UNDER THE BALL!
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I can't fault Jesse for reaching out to try and get the ball over the goal line. If he had tried to roll, he wouldn't have made it...he would have been touched before he got in.

I will blame him for not making sure he held on to the ball. How fucking hard can that be? Come on man! Just grip the fucker. Guys do it all the time.


To be fair, it was raining pretty bad


I know, but damn, man.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL catch rule on a player going to the ground
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You can clearly see the ball making contact with the ground at the 5 second mark.

https://twitter.com/Steelersdepot/status/942556114243043328

Right hand is to the side, not underneath the ball. To me, that's incomplete.

Really.
Have not seen one angle with the ball hitting ground.
Hand is under ball.
Ball rolls against left hand.
Never saw conclusive evidence of ball hitting ground.


That ball completely spins when his elbow hits...its on the ground

It could have spun so cleanly BECAUSE IT'S ON HIS RIGHT HAND.

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 Post subject: Re: HIS RIGHT HAND IS UNDER THE BALL!
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white_steel_wolfe wrote:
Please show me the indisputable evidence that it hit the ground. Bad call and it cost the game. Period.


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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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The ball can hit the ground if the player has control. That rule was changed years ago.

Everyone in the world - except the striped shirts at the game - know that was a catch. It's a fucking crime.

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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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Kodiak wrote:
The ball can hit the ground if the player has control. That rule was changed years ago.

Everyone in the world - except the striped shirts at the game - know that was a catch. It's a fucking crime.


Yep, called a catch, even Romo and Steeler hater Nancy commented that it was a TD.

Wasn't until they likely, got word from the NFL , started questioning it, immediately before that overturn was made.

Corrupt as fuck!


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 Post subject: Re: HIS RIGHT HAND IS UNDER THE BALL!
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fortythree wrote:
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Please show me the indisputable evidence that it hit the ground. Bad call and it cost the game. Period.


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Can't see through his arms- again prove it kid.

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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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Yep, called a catch, even Romo and Steeler hater Nancy commented that it was a TD.

Wasn't until they likely, got word from the NFL , started questioning it, immediately before that overturn was made.

Corrupt as fuck!


And he clearly caught the ball...and then reached for the GL. It's been an abuse and misapplication of the "going to the ground" rules for years. Not the first time we've seen this.

You'll never convince me something isn't amiss here, because only a very liberal and technical interpretation of the rules can call that incomplete. Nevermind it needs to be CONCLUSIVE to overrule the call of a catch on the field.

Has anyone else noticed an INCREASE in "rigged" outcomes since the league centralized reviews in NY? I'm sure that's just a coincidence....

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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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Kodiak wrote:
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Yep, called a catch, even Romo and Steeler hater Nancy commented that it was a TD.

Wasn't until they likely, got word from the NFL , started questioning it, immediately before that overturn was made.

Corrupt as fuck!


And he clearly caught the ball...and then reached for the GL. It's been an abuse and misapplication of the "going to the ground" rules for years. Not the first time we've seen this.

You'll never convince me something isn't amiss here, because only a very liberal and technical interpretation of the rules can call that incomplete. Nevermind it needs to be CONCLUSIVE to overrule the call of a catch on the field.

Has anyone else noticed an INCREASE in "rigged" outcomes since the league centralized reviews in NY? I'm sure that's just a coincidence....


We all know who won today and it was Pittsburgh.
Robbed. Also- fuck all you stupid bandwagon patriot fans visiting these boards. Get absolutely fucked.

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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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The Cooks TD was even worse because you see the ball squirting out.

With James you see ball MOVEMENT but his right arm is underneath it. I still have not see a video angle that shows the ball touched the ground. You can GUESS it touched, but there is nothing conclusive to overturn that call.

People are too focused on the Dez Bryant rule. I can live with that rule. I'm irate because Corrente saw something that wasn't there on film. He was so excited to apply the Dez rule that he forgot that if the ball doesn't hit the ground it is still a catch.

It was a HORRIFIC call.


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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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Just like the Brady rule, this should be re-named "The Pats rule."

The NFL's ability to review TD's back at their office, and decide who wins or loses.

I am just about done with the NFL at this point, which I can't believe I am actually saying. And the best part is, as expected, all the analysts are saying "The NFL enforced the rule properly. Its the rule that needs to be changed." Translation, we are a bunch of pussies that cant take a stand against this horseshit, and see no inequity in the way the NFL carries out their business.


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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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I haven't read the this thread, so I don't know if I'm repeating. . .

I am utterly disgusted and completely fed up with subjective officiating.

This is the rule, as per espn posted in the thread about rogers tipped ball last play :

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A player who goes to the ground in the process of attempting to secure possession of a loose ball (with or without contact by an opponent) must maintain control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, there is no possession.
His initial contact with the ground was his knee. Nobody touched him. As the knee hit the ground, the ball broke the plane of the goal line. The ball was bobbled slightly, with his hand underneath when it was already in the end zone.

This, along with the bogus call on burns for DPI on gronk (they scored the go ahead TD afterwards, yes?), is what gave the pats the game. It seemed so incredibly obvious to me they got jobbed.

Their offensive line made the steelers supposedly pro-bowl heyward and guys that are in top five in sacks look like scrubs.

Further, they don't want officials to determine the out come of the game in the last seconds, but they did just that. Making everybody else play at an all star level for 60 minutes, while the Pats can still play like an average team and still win. And guess what. Everybody was commenting on the officiating crew, and how "inadequate" they are. The writing was on the wall when the decision was made to assign corriente and crew.

And also. I was watching at a bar, with conversations all around me, but it looked like the Pats defender kicked ab in the leg on purpose. They weren't going to make a play on the ball. He was standing straight up. No call.

I never thought I'd say this, but this made me re-evaluate my fandom. I can't watch football that is manipulated so blatantly. I really don't give a fuck about this season anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:51 am 
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Yep, called a catch, even Romo and Steeler hater Nancy commented that it was a TD.

Wasn't until they likely, got word from the NFL , started questioning it, immediately before that overturn was made.

Corrupt as fuck!


And he clearly caught the ball...and then reached for the GL. It's been an abuse and misapplication of the "going to the ground" rules for years. Not the first time we've seen this.

You'll never convince me something isn't amiss here, because only a very liberal and technical interpretation of the rules can call that incomplete. Nevermind it needs to be CONCLUSIVE to overrule the call of a catch on the field.

Has anyone else noticed an INCREASE in "rigged" outcomes since the league centralized reviews in NY? I'm sure that's just a coincidence....


Only in todays NFL an common sense be thrown out the door due to the writing of a rule. The ball was secured, and the ball broke the plain of the endzone. That should be the end of discussion.

No play should be overturned unless it's an egregious error.

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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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Amazing what is coming out, I never saw that Brandon Cooks “TD” where the ball is on the ground.

That with the Jets Touchdown that was overturned and now Jesse James?

Those 3 games that should have the Patriots fighting to just make the playoffs this year instead they have the #1 seed!!??!

Jesse James CLEARLY caught that ball clean, turned and made a “football move” to extend.

Worst call I have seen in the NFL since that bullshit “Tuck Rule”.

Notice how you never see that call made anymore!?!


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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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Haven't read the thread, so if this has been posted I apologize.

Saw this on twitter: "In high school, that's a catch. In college, that's a catch. The NFL has needlessly complicated this rule and created an absolute mess"

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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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Haven't read the thread, so if this has been posted I apologize.

Saw this on twitter: "In high school, that's a catch. In college, that's a catch. The NFL has needlessly complicated this rule and created an absolute mess"


It’s like their disciplinary rules. NFL can make up whatever they want and justify their shit however they want and since there’s no real governance no one can object


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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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Yo #NFL Steeler receiver clearly caught football and knee hit ground short of end zone. Your ruling of incomplete pass is ludicrous. Good luck with those empty seats and collapsing TV ratings.


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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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Corrente the Great's post game synopsis:

https://twitter.com/NFLfootballinfo/sta ... uchdown%2F

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the rule is personna non grata with actual ball breaking plane while in possession. It's all a ruse to overturn outcomes to preserve the gazillion dollar betting monies, contracts and backroom poker deals.

This rule is in total contradiction with decades of precendent of goal line plane rule

The question is, have we suffered enough of Goodell's NFL? He has destroyed it

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Furthermore, the NFL officially released a statement, in what felt like record time, following the game:

https://twitter.com/NFLFootballOps/stat ... uchdown%2F

Armed with knowledge of the rules above, Riveron's explanation is difficult to take at face value. Furthermore, he begins the video by stating "Roethlisberger completes a pass to James" but then talks about "completing the catch".

Which is it Alberto?

That question may seem snarky, but it's the heart of the conversation this morning. Remove conclusive video review from the equation and say it is in fact, indisputable. The next question becomes, is it consistent with similar calls made in the past?


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 Post subject: Re: Reversed TD catch catch rule Mega merged thread
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I have a suggestion. If the NFL has infected Politics, Why can't politics infect the NFL?

Impugn the nfl officiating committee. find dirt on members, and if they've donated to Patriot. . I mean.. . err...republican super pacs. Or if they visited the dumpster white house. Check all players social media. that would make them dirty Parisian hacks. And definitely focus on the sexual harassment claims. Destroy the establishment, To be ejected from the organization after social media outrage. It would ruin the credibility of the nfl, making games effectively "fixed : Something the NFL desperately wants to avoid. Dumpster needs successes, so why not have the pats - a very outspoken supporter of agent orange - win games and exemplify white supremacy?

Why not? $8 B industry. Invented by whites and now played by blacks.

i think it's time to take this shit down. Eradicate the sport or relegate it to sandlot games and bigger games betting lines on who gets hurt first. Imagine the margins on gambling on injuries when everybody knows your gambling based on a fixed game???

Just a few steps away from hunger games.

Toe Tappin' Tony Gets blind sided by a full metal jacket at the three yard line!!! Please accept our apologies as we retrieve a replacement contestant!!! But not before the necessary clean up.

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