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 Post subject: If Steelers get 2 seed is it a blessing in disguise?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:47 pm 
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Patriots having to play 4 seed Chiefs or 5 seed Ravens? Both teams play them well.

Jax has nothing to play for if Steelers win on Christmas. They would be locked into 3 seed. I can see them resting everyone next Sunday and not showing their hand and Tennessee backing in as the 6 seed. Then Jax beats them in wild card in two weeks. 3 seed Jax comes to Pittsburgh. I know they killed us earlier but I would rather play them than Ravens. Chiefs maybe.


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Having the #1 seed theoretically available will work to the team’s benefit too, I think.

Since Ben will have to play at least most of the game (Jets/Pats will be on concurrently), he’ll get more work with all the guys not named Antonio Brown.

That can only help for the playoffs.

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 Post subject: Re: If Steelers get 2 seed is it a blessing in disguise?
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We'll also have the revenge factor on Jax for a psychological edge.


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I want no part of Jax with Fournette at RB. Shazier out and Fournette would just run even more rampant over us. Not a good matchup.

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Scrunge I agree....if there were 1 game where Debo could really contribute....I think it would be Jacksonville.


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If we can't outscore the jacksonville jaguars... I realize we couldn't once already, but uhh, fuck...


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 Post subject: Re: If Steelers get 2 seed is it a blessing in disguise?
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Scunge wrote:
I want no part of Jax with Fournette at RB. Shazier out and Fournette would just run even more rampant over us. Not a good matchup.


He's slowed down tremendously. Take a look at is YPC as the season has wore on.

He looks tired to me. I want the JAGS!


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Hinestuff wrote:
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I want no part of Jax with Fournette at RB. Shazier out and Fournette would just run even more rampant over us. Not a good matchup.


He's slowed down tremendously. Take a look at is YPC as the season has wore on.

He looks tired to me. I want the JAGS!


Let’s avoid. His ankle is the issue. Playing hurt on it now for 6 weeks

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 Post subject: Re: If Steelers get 2 seed is it a blessing in disguise?
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We definitely need a bye, I just saw AB on Instagram and he can barely walk up the stairs right now.

He is going to need at least a couple more weeks.


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I cant imagine playing as poorly vs jax as last time. no way ben gets 5 pics...warm weather jax now playing in cold.. we have hade issues with these guys in playoffs [3rd and 6]
I'm not sure the best path except avoiding Foxboro and the officials..


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I'd rather have the Jaguars than the Chiefs or Ravens. I just don't think Bortles will beat us if we force him too.

I think the OP has a good point. Either the Chiefs or Ravens present real matchup problems for the Pats. They are not guaranteed to win that game. I think those teams are a much tougher matchup for the Pats than the Jags.


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While the pros and cons of potential opponents for the divisional round can be debated, let’s admit that there will most likely be no advantage to being a 2 seed the following week. The Patriots do look vulnerable, and could lose in the divisional round. But where would we put those odds? 20%? Getting a bye and AB healthy both essential. Big thanks to SF for yesterday. Count me among those who let out a sigh of relief at that outcome.


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 Post subject: Re: If Steelers get 2 seed is it a blessing in disguise?
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Will-the-Shake wrote:
While the pros and cons of potential opponents for the divisional round can be debated, let’s admit that there will most likely be no advantage to being a 2 seed the following week. The Patriots do look vulnerable, and could lose in the divisional round. But where would we put those odds? 20%? Getting a bye and AB healthy both essential. Big thanks to SF for yesterday. Count me among those who let out a sigh of relief at that outcome.


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 Post subject: Re: If Steelers get 2 seed is it a blessing in disguise?
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While the pros and cons of potential opponents for the divisional round can be debated, let’s admit that there will most likely be no advantage to being a 2 seed the following week. The Patriots do look vulnerable, and could lose in the divisional round. But where would we put those odds? 20%? Getting a bye and AB healthy both essential. Big thanks to SF for yesterday. Count me among those who let out a sigh of relief at that outcome.


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 Post subject: Re: If Steelers get 2 seed is it a blessing in disguise?
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Will-the-Shake wrote:
While the pros and cons of potential opponents for the divisional round can be debated, let’s admit that there will most likely be no advantage to being a 2 seed the following week. The Patriots do look vulnerable, and could lose in the divisional round. But where would we put those odds? 20%? Getting a bye and AB healthy both essential. Big thanks to SF for yesterday. Count me among those who let out a sigh of relief at that outcome.


I've always maintained that the difference between a #2 seed and #3 seed far exceeds the difference between a #1 seed and #2 seed.

Only needing to win two games, rather than three, to reach the Super Bowl, and being guaranteed at least one of those games at home is freakin' huge.

Steelers, under Tomlin, have reached the Super Bowl both times they had the bye, both times they finished with #2 seed, both times hosted the AFCCG.


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 Post subject: Re: If Steelers get 2 seed is it a blessing in disguise?
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I've heard two Steeler greats say that no Steeler team will ever win the Superbowl if that team doesn't have chemistry. From the players perspective I think this team has chemistry my concern is the dysfunction and that's from the coaching staff, Haley and Tomlin.

As optimistic as some of you guys are regarding the 2nd seed I'm still disgusted and pissed off that Tomlin and Haley lost us the number one seed, augmented by the clear Advantage New England has from the refs and the league.

Yeah I know we have to move on but has the dysfunction moved on? After Bell's ridiculous block and JuJu's incredible play Ben signaled for timeout, there was no leadership coming from Tomlin and thankfully the officials gave Ben the time out. Whether you like it or not it was Ben's decision to clock the ball, yes it wastes a down but it's what needed to happen for Ben to correctly assess the situation and apply some logic to win the game while preserving in the field goal. Tomliin needed to tell Haley to shut the fuck up and allow Ben to do what he wanted to do.

This week we've heard Ben reference Haley cursing him out during that two point pat and there are some stories about Ben not even wanting to deal with Haley. As much talent as there is on this team the dysfunction negates a lot of that Talent.

Four or five touchdowns is required to beat the Patriots and the officials and the chance of doing that in Pittsburgh is far greater then up in Foxboro.

I think it was Mr. Scunge that made recerence to Elway coming into Pittsburgh and winning the AFC Championship on the road. Big difference, Elway had a lot of help he had Bill Cowher on the sidelines.


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 Post subject: Re: If Steelers get 2 seed is it a blessing in disguise?
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Old School Steeler wrote:
I've heard two Steeler greats say that no Steeler team will ever win the Superbowl if that team doesn't have chemistry. From the players perspective I think this team has chemistry my concern is the dysfunction and that's from the coaching staff, Haley and Tomlin.

As optimistic as some of you guys are regarding the 2nd seed I'm still disgusted and pissed off that Tomlin and Haley lost us the number one seed, augmented by the clear Advantage New England has from the refs and the league.

Yeah I know we have to move on but has the dysfunction moved on? After Bell's ridiculous block and JuJu's incredible play Ben signaled for timeout, there was no leadership coming from Tomlin and thankfully the officials gave Ben the time out. Whether you like it or not it was Ben's decision to clock the ball, yes it wastes a down but it's what needed to happen for Ben to correctly assess the situation and apply some logic to win the game while preserving in the field goal. Tomliin needed to tell Haley to shut the fuck up and allow Ben to do what he wanted to do.

This week we've heard Ben reference Haley cursing him out during that two point pat and there are some stories about Ben not even wanting to deal with Haley. As much talent as there is on this team the dysfunction negates a lot of that Talent.

Four or five touchdowns is required to beat the Patriots and the officials and the chance of doing that in Pittsburgh is far greater then up in Foxboro.

I think it was Mr. Scunge that made recerence to Elway coming into Pittsburgh and winning the AFC Championship on the road. Big difference, Elway had a lot of help he had Bill Cowher on the sidelines.


The Chan Fuckin' Gailey game....interesting that Cowher's OC fucked things up, too...though far more football cred than Haley. And just to be clear, had Ben clocked the ball, would not have been assessing the situation, would have done so in order to bring on the FG team (on 4th down) and send the game into OT.


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 Post subject: Re: If Steelers get 2 seed is it a blessing in disguise?
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We definitely need a bye, I just saw AB on Instagram and he can barely walk up the stairs right now.

He is going to need at least a couple more weeks.


The next shot of him running was way more encouraging


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 Post subject: Re: If Steelers get 2 seed is it a blessing in disguise?
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Was it a torn calf muscle? If so I had the same injury. The time I was down and out from any sports was 3 weeks. Mind you I'm not in the greatest shape by my own standards, overweight and old. Perhaps 3 weeks will be enough time for a stud of an athlete like AB to return to form. :geek:


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Was it a torn calf muscle? If so I had the same injury. The time I was down and out from any sports was 3 weeks. Mind you I'm not in the greatest shape by my own standards, overweight and old. Perhaps 3 weeks will be enough time for a stud of an athlete like AB to return to form. :geek:


And actually....will be four weeks in between the injury and Divisional Playoff. AB will be fine.


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The only other concern becomes rust. And by rust I mean acclimation to the speed of the game. That may play the odds against AB. Like to feel like it won't have any bearing on his performance but I can't.


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The only other concern becomes rust. And by rust I mean acclimation to the speed of the game. That may play the odds against AB. Like to feel like it won't have any bearing on his performance but I can't.


Right....and so much of his prep is bodily prep...work ethic.


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Old School Steeler wrote:
I've heard two Steeler greats say that no Steeler team will ever win the Superbowl if that team doesn't have chemistry. From the players perspective I think this team has chemistry my concern is the dysfunction and that's from the coaching staff, Haley and Tomlin.

As optimistic as some of you guys are regarding the 2nd seed I'm still disgusted and pissed off that Tomlin and Haley lost us the number one seed, augmented by the clear Advantage New England has from the refs and the league.

Yeah I know we have to move on but has the dysfunction moved on? After Bell's ridiculous block and JuJu's incredible play Ben signaled for timeout, there was no leadership coming from Tomlin and thankfully the officials gave Ben the time out. Whether you like it or not it was Ben's decision to clock the ball, yes it wastes a down but it's what needed to happen for Ben to correctly assess the situation and apply some logic to win the game while preserving in the field goal. Tomliin needed to tell Haley to shut the fuck up and allow Ben to do what he wanted to do.

This week we've heard Ben reference Haley cursing him out during that two point pat and there are some stories about Ben not even wanting to deal with Haley. As much talent as there is on this team the dysfunction negates a lot of that Talent.

Four or five touchdowns is required to beat the Patriots and the officials and the chance of doing that in Pittsburgh is far greater then up in Foxboro.

I think it was Mr. Scunge that made recerence to Elway coming into Pittsburgh and winning the AFC Championship on the road. Big difference, Elway had a lot of help he had Bill Cowher on the sidelines.


The Chan Fuckin' Gailey game....interesting that Cowher's OC fucked things up, too...though far more football cred than Haley. And just to be clear, had Ben clocked the ball, would not have been assessing the situation, would have done so in order to bring on the FG team (on 4th down) and send the game into OT.

yes..i too am completely baffled by bens comment here of clocking the ball...why? u have plenty of time to go for a win..how mad are we if we go to overtime and lose after ben waste a down spiking with a down to play and 12 seconds or so..surely hes not that dumb...now if u want to debate the play call and poor choice to throw the pic that's another story..


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Scunge wrote:
I want no part of Jax with Fournette at RB. Shazier out and Fournette would just run even more rampant over us. Not a good matchup.

I think we are in trouble defending the run with anybody we play. Time to make you DC and change up this bitch.


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Suwanee88 wrote:
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I want no part of Jax with Fournette at RB. Shazier out and Fournette would just run even more rampant over us. Not a good matchup.

I think we are in trouble defending the run with anybody we play. Time to make you DC and change up this bitch.
Jay Ajayi ran all over the steelers last year in the first game during the season. Shut down completely in the second game.

I'm not worried about fournette. Even with Shaz out. Maybe I'm naive.

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