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Author:  BethlehemSteel [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

Scunge has laid out all the proof for JH's bench time with the record sacks this year, plus the migration to more of the 4-3 look and the DLine pressures and coverage schemes.

Harrison's needs to be honest about this, but he wont discuss it. Not part of the persecution narrative he's floating. If he was sleeping in meetings, then FFS, he is at fault

Author:  steel [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

the same fucked up nepotism that got Harrison released in favor of Moats, and got us Todd Haley, and got us Mike Vick -- when NO ONE ELSE WANTED ANY OF THESE GUYS IN THE NFL -- will continue to prevent us from winning championships

I will GUARANTEE YOU that if Arthur fucking Moats were released tomorrow, NO ONE would sign him.

I GUARANTEE YOU that if Haley was fired today, no other NFL team would hire him.

And we already know that no one wanted Vick when Mikey gave him the charity contract

Steelers management is blinded by the idea of "loyalty" -- while Belichick is totally free of any such notion when it comes to signing/cutting players, or hiring/firing coaches.

who gives a fuck if your Dad worked here 40 years ago?

Who gives a fuck that you are from the same town as the HC?

This management team doesn't have the strength or fortitude to make decisions to win championships. They are gutless.

Author:  BethlehemSteel [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

steel wrote:
the same fucked up nepotism that got Harrison released in favor of Moats, and got us Todd Haley, and got us Mike Vick -- when NO ONE ELSE WANTED ANY OF THESE GUYS IN THE NFL -- will continue to prevent us from winning championships

I will GUARANTEE YOU that if Arthur fucking Moats were released tomorrow, NO ONE would sign him.

I GUARANTEE YOU that if Haley was fired today, no other NFL team would hire him.

And we already know that no one wanted Vick when Mikey gave him the charity contract

Steelers management is blinded by the idea of "loyalty" -- while Belichick is totally free of any such notion when it comes to signing/cutting players, or hiring/firing coaches.

who gives a fuck if your Dad worked here 40 years ago?

Who gives a fuck that you are from the same town as the HC?

This management team doesn't have the strength or fortitude to make decisions to win championships. They are gutless.

You really need to get into some anger mgt classes kid

Author:  steel [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

BethlehemSteel wrote:
You really need to get into some anger mgt classes kid


maybe youre right!

I'm still pissed about the Pats loss here -- Can't believe Mikey allowed Haley to put his tail between his legs and didn't go for the win with 2 1/2 minutes left

I fucking hate Haley so much that those classes might do me some good!

Author:  BethlehemSteel [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

steel wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:
You really need to get into some anger mgt classes kid


maybe youre right!

I'm still pissed about the Pats loss here -- Can't believe Mikey allowed Haley to put his tail between his legs and didn't go for the win with 2 1/2 minutes left

I fucking hate Haley so much that those classes might do me some good!


I think that very issue is about to be cleaned up very soon. And that loss still burns me due to many reasons

Author:  Poltargyst [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

steel wrote:

Who gives a fuck that you are from the same town as the HC?


This is your own unsubstantiated creation.

steel wrote:

This management team doesn't have the strength or fortitude to make decisions to win championships.

Do you remember 2008? Which management team was that?

Author:  steel [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

Poltargyst wrote:
steel wrote:

Who gives a fuck that you are from the same town as the HC?


This is your own unsubstantiated creation.

steel wrote:

This management team doesn't have the strength or fortitude to make decisions to win championships.

Do you remember 2008? Which management team was that?


MOSTLY COWHER'S -- almost the entire coaching staff, INCLUDING MOST OF HIS PLAYERS

as I recall, i think Deebo was also Team MVP, ironically

How far we have fallen since then....

Author:  Ice [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:38 pm ]
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At this point, we've fallen to 13-3, 2nd in the conference, with a team record and NFL lead in sacks, actually.

Author:  steel [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:39 pm ]
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Ice wrote:
At this point, we've fallen to 13-3, 2nd in the conference, with a team record and NFL lead in sacks, actually.


shove all those stats up Tomlin's ass after we get raped again in Foxboro

Author:  Laying the Wood [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

steel wrote:
Poltargyst wrote:
steel wrote:

Who gives a fuck that you are from the same town as the HC?


This is your own unsubstantiated creation.

steel wrote:

This management team doesn't have the strength or fortitude to make decisions to win championships.

Do you remember 2008? Which management team was that?


MOSTLY COWHER'S -- almost the entire coaching staff, INCLUDING MOST OF HIS PLAYERS

as I recall, i think Deebo was also Team MVP, ironically

How far we have fallen since then....


Fallen into...

- One more Super Bowl appearance
- Six playoff appearances
- Four division titles

And they just finished a 13-3 season and scored a first round bye.

Truly, they have fallen to the dredges of the NFL.

Author:  VASteelerGuy [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:15 am ]
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steel wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:
You really need to get into some anger mgt classes kid


maybe youre right!

I'm still pissed about the Pats loss here -- Can't believe Mikey allowed Haley to put his tail between his legs and didn't go for the win with 2 1/2 minutes left

I fucking hate Haley so much that those classes might do me some good!


of course, we're assuming the Pats would not have forced a turnover, Ben thrown an INT, etc. We would also be hailing Haley as a hero if that last pass were caught in all that coverage??? We would have been boasting about the risk-reward BS stuff.

IT"S OVER, they won, we know we can hang with them. Let the rematch, hopefully, start in two weeks and end in three weeks with them walking to their locker room defeated. I've said it before, unlikely we beat the Pats twice. Perhaps the fuel we need to get over the hump was a bitter loss.

Author:  Zeke5123 [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

Let’s try this one on for size. Didn’t Harrison earn the right to prove he is washed up on the field? Shouldn’t he have gotten four games before turning to the juggernaut that is Moats?

Author:  Steelergenie [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:12 am ]
Post subject:  Bye Bye Shade Tree

McCullers has probably played his last snap for the Steelers. He had 2 snaps against the Stains. So why wasn’t he cut instead of Deebo?

Author:  KC [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:25 pm ]
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Steelergenie wrote:
McCullers has probably played his last snap for the Steelers. He had 2 snaps against the Stains. So why wasn’t he cut instead of Deebo?


Stupidity.

Pure, unadulterated stupidity.

Author:  W&M_Steeler [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:35 pm ]
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KC wrote:
Steelergenie wrote:
McCullers has probably played his last snap for the Steelers. He had 2 snaps against the Stains. So why wasn’t he cut instead of Deebo?


Stupidity.

Pure, unadulterated stupidity.


Don't forget pride and arrogance. Conflict between Harrison and Porter seems to have been the cause of much of the discord. Harrison seems to have been acting out during LB meetings. My guess is that, in cutting Harrison, they thought they were going to teach Harrison a lesson in humility by cutting him and leaving him unclaimed for a weekend. They could then re-sign him later in the week once they demonstrated his perceived lack of value. McCullers would have then been cut to make room for Harrison, IMO. The coaching staff / FO didn't think anyone would take Harrison in the interim. Whoops.

This should be folded into the omnibus Harrison thread, as keeping McCullers over Harrison has been thrashed out in it several times.

Author:  BethlehemSteel [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bye Bye Shade Tree

this thread was stupid to be started in the first place. All Harrison banter has it's place

Author:  the-other-burg [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bye Bye Shade Tree

W&M_Steeler wrote:
KC wrote:
Steelergenie wrote:
McCullers has probably played his last snap for the Steelers. He had 2 snaps against the Stains. So why wasn’t he cut instead of Deebo?


Stupidity.

Pure, unadulterated stupidity.


Don't forget pride and arrogance. Conflict between Harrison and Porter seems to have been the cause of much of the discord. Harrison seems to have been acting out during LB meetings. My guess is that, in cutting Harrison, they thought they were going to teach Harrison a lesson in humility by cutting him and leaving him unclaimed for a weekend. They could then re-sign him later in the week once they demonstrated his perceived lack of value. McCullers would have then been cut to make room for Harrison, IMO. The coaching staff / FO didn't think anyone would take Harrison in the interim. Whoops.

This should be folded into the omnibus Harrison thread, as keeping McCullers over Harrison has been thrashed out in it several times.


If that were the case, then it would take the stupidity to the next level.

Author:  fortythree [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bye Bye Shade Tree

Not this shit again!

Author:  Stinger8 [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

Zeke5123 wrote:
Let’s try this one on for size. Didn’t Harrison earn the right to prove he is washed up on the field? Shouldn’t he have gotten four games before turning to the juggernaut that is Moats?


He proved, without a shadow of a doubt, last game that he is not washed up. He earned that right by being, statistically the greats OLB the Steelers have ever had, in a very august group. The spinners and deflectors here can conjure up as many excuses and reasons why he did not anything noteworthy last week, however the film and statistics prove other wise. Incidentally he made those plays after being essentially "shelved" for many many weeks. Imagine if he had regular work??

Author:  BethlehemSteel [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

Stinger8 wrote:
Zeke5123 wrote:
Let’s try this one on for size. Didn’t Harrison earn the right to prove he is washed up on the field? Shouldn’t he have gotten four games before turning to the juggernaut that is Moats?


He proved, without a shadow of a doubt, last game that he is not washed up. He earned that right by being, statistically the greats OLB the Steelers have ever had, in a very august group. The spinners and deflectors here can conjure up as many excuses and reasons why he did not anything noteworthy last week, however the film and statistics prove other wise. Incidentally he made those plays after being essentially "shelved" for many many weeks. Imagine if he had regular work??


You're not being honest with the highlights and the down and distances and the game situations. It must be more imagination than fact!!

Author:  GreekSteel [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:51 pm ]
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BethlehemSteel wrote:
Stinger8 wrote:
Zeke5123 wrote:
Let’s try this one on for size. Didn’t Harrison earn the right to prove he is washed up on the field? Shouldn’t he have gotten four games before turning to the juggernaut that is Moats?


He proved, without a shadow of a doubt, last game that he is not washed up. He earned that right by being, statistically the greats OLB the Steelers have ever had, in a very august group. The spinners and deflectors here can conjure up as many excuses and reasons why he did not anything noteworthy last week, however the film and statistics prove other wise. Incidentally he made those plays after being essentially "shelved" for many many weeks. Imagine if he had regular work??


You're not being honest with the highlights and the down and distances and the game situations. It must be more imagination than fact!!




You don't think he had a good game for a guy collecting dust and cobwebs all season?

Author:  BethlehemSteel [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

Stinger8 wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:
Stinger8 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYlOqW1rpf8



Espn propaganda? Please child keep that shit outta here


Hey Beth you know this more than anyone on this site. This is the FIRST and last time I will ever respond to you because you offer so little value to this site. Your comments are inane, they add almost no value to whatever debate is happening, and you frankly embarrass yourself on a daily basis.

In this scene replace Mr Madison with Bethlehem Steel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKjxFJfcrcA

Goodbye Mr Bethlehem Steel :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I missed this totally. I embarrass myself? I added plenty to this debate, you failed to even acknowledge this. Many other posters mirrored this analysis because of the situation, the team, the time of the game, etc. I will say, i haven't burned my 4 Harrison jerseys!! :P


Quote:


First clip, #52 makes 95% of the play, harrison was on the ground assisting arm tackle. Score Ne 7, Jets 0 2:18 left in 1st

Second Clip, Early 3rd Quarter NE 21, Jets 3 Petty makes a dump into the flats where the middle secondary is blanketed. Harrison reads the weak Petty play and already has a jump to make the tackle in coverage. Jets were already done at this point. Gain of 1 on the play.

3rd Play, late 3rd NE 24, Jets 3. NE CB makes the read on the screen pass and the tackle, Harrison runs in to a mop up wrestling move assist.

4th Play LAte 4th, NE 26 Jets 6 (1:15 left) game over, Beachum presents the turnstile for Harrison to run around and force the fumble

5th Play 40 seconds left, game over, coverage sack with no Jet effort after all pass options are closed to Petty. Mop up #1 Not double teamed as Romo stated, just Beachum trying to get the hell out of there.

Mop up #2 is not in the highlights as it wasn't going to give a good narrative per the usual CBS propaganda (second sack)

Author:  BethlehemSteel [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

GreekSteel wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:

You don't think he had a good game for a guy collecting dust and cobwebs all season?


Can't use that to gauge good, average or great. Not enough to measure. He played the FUCKING DEFEATED JETS Greek.
No one wants to dissect my post on the highlights, but it's been mirrored pretty much by the better football minds here.

Author:  GreekSteel [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

BethlehemSteel wrote:
GreekSteel wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:

You don't think he had a good game for a guy collecting dust and cobwebs all season?


Can't use that to gauge good, average or great. Not enough to measure. He played the FUCKING DEFEATED JETS Greek.
No one wants to dissect my post on the highlights, but it's been mirrored pretty much by the better football minds here.





I'm not gonna gauge anything after 1 game, but lowly jets or not, divisional game, and for a guy collecting dust and cobwebs all season id say pats fan can feel at least a little optimistic about Harrsions future contributions, wouldn't you say?

Author:  W&M_Steeler [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bye Bye Shade Tree

the-other-burg wrote:
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Don't forget pride and arrogance. Conflict between Harrison and Porter seems to have been the cause of much of the discord. Harrison seems to have been acting out during LB meetings. My guess is that, in cutting Harrison, they thought they were going to teach Harrison a lesson in humility by cutting him and leaving him unclaimed for a weekend. They could then re-sign him later in the week once they demonstrated his perceived lack of value. McCullers would have then been cut to make room for Harrison, IMO. The coaching staff / FO didn't think anyone would take Harrison in the interim. Whoops.

This should be folded into the omnibus Harrison thread, as keeping McCullers over Harrison has been thrashed out in it several times.


If that were the case, then it would take the stupidity to the next level.


I'm not saying it is the case, but I think it's a plausible scenario. Their post-furor explanation for keeping McCullers didn't make any sense.

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