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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:21 pm 
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Bill Belichick ok'd taking on James Harrison. That's all I need to know that the man is still viable and contribute. Belichick has made Tomlin look like a mental midget every single their teams have played since 2013. Funny as fuck some here trust Tomlin's judgment over Belichick's.

BB cut a young draft pick LB under 25 who was considered a good prospect to make room for a 39 year old

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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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BethlehemSteel wrote:
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Bill Belichick ok'd taking on James Harrison. That's all I need to know that the man is still viable and contribute. Belichick has made Tomlin look like a mental midget every single their teams have played since 2013. Funny as fuck some here trust Tomlin's judgment over Belichick's.

BB cut a young draft pick LB under 25 who was considered a good prospect to make room for a 39 year old

Really? Doesn't he know that the Steelers can sign him and learn all of the Patriots inside information? Bad move by the Pats.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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Bill Belichick ok'd taking on James Harrison. That's all I need to know that the man is still viable and contribute. Belichick has made Tomlin look like a mental midget every single their teams have played since 2013. Funny as fuck some here trust Tomlin's judgment over Belichick's.


I really don't think Belichick is that great of a talent evaluator though. Just look at his draft record.


The Patriot's do this constantly - take a flier on an aging vet - with mixed results. For every hit, there are 5 misses. It's a really good strategy overall - low risk with the potential of finding a key role player. This year alone, they've grabbed Bennett, Britt, and now JH during the season. Bennett is already gone and Britt has been less than stellar so far. I wouldn't look at the Pats grabbing JH as evidence that he can still play - it's just how the they operate. We'll see.


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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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Kinda stupid to play to win when the team stands no chance of beating New England now that James Harrison is on their team.

Once he teaches the Patriots the Steelers secret handshake it's all over!


Lot of cute remarks, but I have yet to hear someone explain how the release of Harrison benefits this Steeler team, short term or long term.

I've heard good arguments as to why it doesn't help...depth at pass-rusher position. But nothing of substance as to the benefit.

Please enlighten me.


I can guarantee you that this is how it went:

James Harrison: I'm not happy with my playing time. I wouldn't have resigned here if I knew I wasn't going to play. Coach T, I'd really appreciate you giving me the opportunity to catch on elsewhere before I retire.
Mike: Alright James.

The benefit is not holding one of your most storied franchise players hostage to ride the bench, when you were not using him (and were not going to use him) anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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Steelafan77 wrote:
'We're going to play to win'....


Ummm, I hope so....they could still get the #1 seed, no matter how unlikely NYJ beating NE may be it is still >0.

More rocket science from Mr. Cliche. I bet his gut told him they should play to win this week.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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The benefit is not holding one of your most storied franchise players hostage to ride the bench, when you were not using him (and were not going to use him) anyway.


Sorry, but it's a business. If he could possibly end-up helping your primary competition for the SB, then he rides the bench and grumbles all the way to the bank cashing those big checks. Release him at the end of the year (though I think he was going to be a FA).

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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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SteelKnife wrote:
Miter Saw wrote:
fortythree wrote:
Kinda stupid to play to win when the team stands no chance of beating New England now that James Harrison is on their team.

Once he teaches the Patriots the Steelers secret handshake it's all over!


Lot of cute remarks, but I have yet to hear someone explain how the release of Harrison benefits this Steeler team, short term or long term.

I've heard good arguments as to why it doesn't help...depth at pass-rusher position. But nothing of substance as to the benefit.

Please enlighten me.


I can guarantee you that this is how it went:

James Harrison: I'm not happy with my playing time. I wouldn't have resigned here if I knew I wasn't going to play. Coach T, I'd really appreciate you giving me the opportunity to catch on elsewhere before I retire.
Mike: Alright James.

The benefit is not holding one of your most storied franchise players hostage to ride the bench, when you were not using him (and were not going to use him) anyway.


Let's hope it wasn't as simple as that....with Harrison then free to add to the depth of the major obstacle between the Steelers and a Super Bowl berth. If that was the case, answer to Harrison should have been the same as it was to Bryant.


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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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swissvale72 wrote:
SteelKnife wrote:
I can guarantee you that this is how it went:

James Harrison: I'm not happy with my playing time. I wouldn't have resigned here if I knew I wasn't going to play. Coach T, I'd really appreciate you giving me the opportunity to catch on elsewhere before I retire.
Mike: Alright James.

The benefit is not holding one of your most storied franchise players hostage to ride the bench, when you were not using him (and were not going to use him) anyway.


Let's hope it wasn't as simple as that....with Harrison then free to add to the depth of the major obstacle between the Steelers and a Super Bowl berth. If that was the case, answer to Harrison should have been the same as it was to Bryant.


Agreed

I hope he does not help them on the field.


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Agreed

I hope he does not help them on the field.


I hope he gets too eager in practice to earn his way onto the field, and wrecks Brady :D

Or somehow pulls the ultimate heel act to help the NYJ steal a win, to make-up for PIT getting hosed against NE.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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Can't win. People here raged when we cut a legend; people not happy if we cut him because we were respecting his wishes. "It's a business" cuts both ways. He wasn't very good when he played this year, and there's no reason to suspect he would have been good this year with more time.

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Miter Saw wrote:
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Kinda stupid to play to win when the team stands no chance of beating New England now that James Harrison is on their team.

Once he teaches the Patriots the Steelers secret handshake it's all over!


Lot of cute remarks, but I have yet to hear someone explain how the release of Harrison benefits this Steeler team, short term or long term.

I've heard good arguments as to why it doesn't help...depth at pass-rusher position. But nothing of substance as to the benefit.

Please enlighten me.


Perhaps Harrison was causing issues in the locker room.

Perhaps they wanted to do him a favor as a "thank you for your service" kind of thing.

Just because we don't know the reason doesn't mean there wasn't a good one.

It's all about perspective.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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Anyway, I figure starters play first half (which is probably a good thing)....then take a seat when NE is up 4 TD's at half.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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Kodiak wrote:
Anyway, I figure starters play first half (which is probably a good thing)....then take a seat when NE is up 4 TD's at half.

No, watch, Belichick will intentionally have the Pats losing to the Jets up until the end just to fuck with us.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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Poltargyst wrote:
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Anyway, I figure starters play first half (which is probably a good thing)....then take a seat when NE is up 4 TD's at half.

No, watch, Belichick will intentionally have the Pats losing to the Jets up until the end just to fuck with us.


Silly me....the zebras will keep that game close, but NE will never be in any real danger. They've really made Riveron earn his salary this year.

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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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Kodiak wrote:
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Anyway, I figure starters play first half (which is probably a good thing)....then take a seat when NE is up 4 TD's at half.

No, watch, Belichick will intentionally have the Pats losing to the Jets up until the end just to fuck with us.


Silly me....the zebras will keep that game close, but NE will never be in any real danger. They've really made Riveron earn his salary this year.

I wonder how they'll negate a Jets TD this week.

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Ben plays a half and bell gets a few carries and is out


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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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Poltargyst wrote:
I wonder how they'll negate a Jets TD this week.


Riveron at a NE game is kind of like those old Schoolhouse Rock cartoons, only instead of how a bill becomes a law they're trying to explain the NFL rule book to us.

Congress is less confusing (but only slightly less incompetent).

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Ben plays a half and bell gets a few carries and is out

They'll play until the bitter end, unless NE pulls its starters with a big lead or the Steelers have a big enough lead to take the starters out, like they did late last game.

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Agreed

I hope he does not help them on the field.


I hope he gets too eager in practice to earn his way onto the field, and wrecks Brady :D

Or somehow pulls the ultimate heel act to help the NYJ steal a win, to make-up for PIT getting hosed against NE.


See the video clip I embedded in podcast thread :D

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Ben plays a half and bell gets a few carries and is out

They'll play until the bitter end, unless NE pulls its starters with a big lead or the Steelers have a big enough lead to take the starters out, like they did late last game.


Why would they rest anyone when the have a bye and a chance for HFA


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Poltargyst wrote:
Kodiak wrote:
Anyway, I figure starters play first half (which is probably a good thing)....then take a seat when NE is up 4 TD's at half.

No, watch, Belichick will intentionally have the Pats losing to the Jets up until the end just to fuck with us.


Only because James Harrison told him to.


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 Post subject: Re: Tomlin Tuesday....
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BethlehemSteel wrote:
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Bill Belichick ok'd taking on James Harrison. That's all I need to know that the man is still viable and contribute. Belichick has made Tomlin look like a mental midget every single their teams have played since 2013. Funny as fuck some here trust Tomlin's judgment over Belichick's.

BB cut a young draft pick LB under 25 who was considered a good prospect to make room for a 39 year old


Who did they cut, and is he better than what we have?


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robyotter wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:
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Bill Belichick ok'd taking on James Harrison. That's all I need to know that the man is still viable and contribute. Belichick has made Tomlin look like a mental midget every single their teams have played since 2013. Funny as fuck some here trust Tomlin's judgment over Belichick's.

BB cut a young draft pick LB under 25 who was considered a good prospect to make room for a 39 year old


Who did they cut, and is he better than what we have?


We should sign his ass just because...

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robyotter wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:
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Bill Belichick ok'd taking on James Harrison. That's all I need to know that the man is still viable and contribute. Belichick has made Tomlin look like a mental midget every single their teams have played since 2013. Funny as fuck some here trust Tomlin's judgment over Belichick's.

BB cut a young draft pick LB under 25 who was considered a good prospect to make room for a 39 year old


Who did they cut, and is he better than what we have?


Trevor Reilly, the Jets' 7th round pick in 2014 out of Utah.


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I could get behind that signing.


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