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Loving this thread.

Anyone ever play "Spread Eagle" at recess?

We used tennis and racket balls.

Group of dudes would hurl a ball at the wall and if you tried to catch it on the rebound and dropped it, you had to go to the wall and spread eagle facing the crowd with arms behind your head. Dude whose throw you failed to rebound would try to nail you in the genitals with the ball.


We called it wall ball.

Guess we just weren't very creative.


We called it wall ball as well.

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We called it "smear"

Another game we played and this was during winter up north. I remember being on an icy driveway at night. We are all dressed in heavy winter coats and winter gear. It was every man for himself. We had a basketball and we had to try to make a shot. But there were no rules LOL No such thing as a foul. Anything goes. There was something funny about seeing your buddy take a punch in the ribs while shooting the basketball LOL all in the name of competition of course.

We did that too, but not on ice or asphalt. Called it "tackle basketball." I don't think there was any punching, but there was tackling, wrestling, taking the ball, etc. It was teams, usually 2 against 2. Sometimes 2 on 1 if there was an age difference. The offensive player didn't have to dribble, and it was a live ball after a basket; whoever gets the ball didn't have to take it "out" or anything. The best play was having one player hold down both players on the other team, while his teammate was under the basket scoring point after point until somebody could get free.

And we called the other game "smear the queer" or "tackle the man with the ball."

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What a great thread. We played all these games (smear the queer, prison ball, king of the mountain).

We would also just make up games on the fly involving kicking each other's asses using whatever resources were available to us. One of our favorite summertime go-tos involved a football, trampoline, and sprinkler. A guy on the ground would throw a pass about 15-20 feet above the trampoline surface, 2 soaking wet guys on the soaking wet trampoline would go after that pass. No rules. I remember 2 broken arms and one dislocated hip (none happening to me, fortunately) from guys falling 20-25 feet and landing either on the ground or hitting the edge of the trampoline. Good times!

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I grew up in PA, we called it smear the queer. I never heard it called anything else.


I grew up in Pittsburgh.
we called it one of 2 things:
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Jeemie wrote:
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Loving this thread.

Anyone ever play "Spread Eagle" at recess?

We used tennis and racket balls.

Group of dudes would hurl a ball at the wall and if you tried to catch it on the rebound and dropped it, you had to go to the wall and spread eagle facing the crowd with arms behind your head. Dude whose throw you failed to rebound would try to nail you in the genitals with the ball.


We called it wall ball.

Guess we just weren't very creative.


We called it wall ball as well.

We called it Buns Up - in our version, if you dropped it, you could run and touch the wall before someone hit it with the racket ball. If you didn't make it, you had to bend over in front of the wall. I remember playing this game mostly in a friend's driveway off the garage door.

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Guess it’s “Smear the LGBT kid” now......I’ve lost touch

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steelhope wrote:
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I remember running defensive stunts in gym class, lining up in the A gap like Mean Joe.

Then Kill The Man With The Ball during recess. Everyone wanted to slam the weaker kids into the curb. Then Jumping on the pile.

I don't remember pee wee football then. Did it exist?


I was playing "midget football" at 8 in 1955....Aliquippa, PA

Did you play with Ditka? About the right timeframe, yeah?

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We called it kill the man and smear the queer

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 Post subject: Re: More redux...
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
steelhope wrote:
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I remember running defensive stunts in gym class, lining up in the A gap like Mean Joe.

Then Kill The Man With The Ball during recess. Everyone wanted to slam the weaker kids into the curb. Then Jumping on the pile.

I don't remember pee wee football then. Did it exist?


I was playing "midget football" at 8 in 1955....Aliquippa, PA

Did you play with Ditka? About the right timeframe, yeah?


I think he was a cheerleader? Kidding
He was drafted (NFL) in 61.....I was 14


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 Post subject: Re: More redux...
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*The upcoming AFCCG, if in Foxboro, is going to be '74 AFCCG Redux, including "The Best Team in Football is in this Room!" This will be the modern day version....'74 Steelers lost to the Raiders in Pittsburgh, then beat them in the Oakland Alameda Coliseum. There's parallels here.


My only gripe with the parallel is that Mike Tomlin is on the sidelines instead of Chuck Noll. Also, Noll didn't have a history of getting spanked by John Madden.

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 Post subject: Re: More redux...
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*The upcoming AFCCG, if in Foxboro, is going to be '74 AFCCG Redux, including "The Best Team in Football is in this Room!" This will be the modern day version....'74 Steelers lost to the Raiders in Pittsburgh, then beat them in the Oakland Alameda Coliseum. There's parallels here.


My only gripe with the parallel is that Mike Tomlin is on the sidelines instead of Chuck Noll. Also, Noll didn't have a history of getting spanked by John Madden.

I'm well aware… Looking to change that story. Noll had lost the last two in Madden not that that's a pattern


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 Post subject: Re: More redux...
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Obviously wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:

*The upcoming AFCCG, if in Foxboro, is going to be '74 AFCCG Redux, including "The Best Team in Football is in this Room!" This will be the modern day version....'74 Steelers lost to the Raiders in Pittsburgh, then beat them in the Oakland Alameda Coliseum. There's parallels here.


My only gripe with the parallel is that Mike Tomlin is on the sidelines instead of Chuck Noll. Also, Noll didn't have a history of getting spanked by John Madden.


Tomlin actually has a better record in the NFL than Noll. Was there any team as dominant as the Patriots in the Noll era? other than the Steelers?


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VASteelerGuy wrote:
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swissvale72 wrote:

*The upcoming AFCCG, if in Foxboro, is going to be '74 AFCCG Redux, including "The Best Team in Football is in this Room!" This will be the modern day version....'74 Steelers lost to the Raiders in Pittsburgh, then beat them in the Oakland Alameda Coliseum. There's parallels here.


My only gripe with the parallel is that Mike Tomlin is on the sidelines instead of Chuck Noll. Also, Noll didn't have a history of getting spanked by John Madden.


Tomlin actually has a better record in the NFL than Noll. Was there any team as dominant as the Patriots in the Noll era? other than the Steelers?

Tomlin inherited bill cowers team; noll inherited Bill Austin's team. Nolls 1-13 First year record was hard to overcome. Raiders dolphins in cowboys all could have been contenders for patriot like success were it not for Nolls Steelers


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My only gripe with the parallel is that Mike Tomlin is on the sidelines instead of Chuck Noll. Also, Noll didn't have a history of getting spanked by John Madden.[/quote]

Tomlin actually has a better record in the NFL than Noll. Was there any team as dominant as the Patriots in the Noll era? other than the Steelers?[/quote]
Tomlin inherited bill cowers team; noll inherited Bill Austin's team. Nolls 1-13 First year record was hard to overcome. Raiders dolphins in cowboys all could have been contenders for patriot like success were it not for Nolls Steelers[/quote]


yes..nolls first was a stat killer..ill throw in oilers as a team whom coulda won a couple bowls too cept for steelers... no doubt raiders and broncos stole bowls we coulda won.


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VASteelerGuy wrote:
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swissvale72 wrote:

*The upcoming AFCCG, if in Foxboro, is going to be '74 AFCCG Redux, including "The Best Team in Football is in this Room!" This will be the modern day version....'74 Steelers lost to the Raiders in Pittsburgh, then beat them in the Oakland Alameda Coliseum. There's parallels here.


My only gripe with the parallel is that Mike Tomlin is on the sidelines instead of Chuck Noll. Also, Noll didn't have a history of getting spanked by John Madden.


Tomlin actually has a better record in the NFL than Noll. Was there any team as dominant as the Patriots in the Noll era? other than the Steelers?


Please don't tell me you're actually entertaining the idea that Mike Tomlin is as good as Chuck Noll.

To answer your question, the level of competition was far greater when Noll's teams were playing. The AFC Central alone had three exceptional teams in the Steelers, Oilers and Bengals. Add to that the Raiders, Vikings, Dolphins, Rams and the team the Steelers beat twice in the Super Bowl - the Dallas Cowboys. Tomlin's Steelers beat the Arizona Cardinals. Barely.

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*The upcoming AFCCG, if in Foxboro, is going to be '74 AFCCG Redux, including "The Best Team in Football is in this Room!" This will be the modern day version....'74 Steelers lost to the Raiders in Pittsburgh, then beat them in the Oakland Alameda Coliseum. There's parallels here.[/quote]

My only gripe with the parallel is that Mike Tomlin is on the sidelines instead of Chuck Noll. Also, Noll didn't have a history of getting spanked by John Madden.[/quote]

Tomlin actually has a better record in the NFL than Noll. Was there any team as dominant as the Patriots in the Noll era? other than the Steelers?[/quote]

Please don't tell me you're actually entertaining the idea that Mike Tomlin is as good as Chuck Noll.

To answer your question, the level of competition was far greater when Noll's teams were playing. The AFC Central alone had three exceptional teams in the Steelers, Oilers and Bengals. Add to that the Raiders, Vikings, Dolphins, Rams and the team the Steelers beat twice in the Super Bowl - the Dallas Cowboys. Tomlin's Steelers beat the Arizona Cardinals. Barely.[/quote]

hey..u failed to mention browns. who had some better then decent teams in 70s.. oilers were bad till mid-late 70s..bengals with Anderson at qb very good..


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 Post subject: Re: More redux...
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In 74 we did not know what it felt like to be a Super Bowl team, that team defined the process and the route and once established the team knew what it took to get back there and win it again. The 76 team had almost all the elements, the losing streak and the roadblock being Oakland kept us out of the Super Bowl that year. The pattern in the league then was one team rising above several damn good teams to win the Super Bowl and only the best of those repeated. After drugs and the World Football League undercut the Dolphins the Steelers rose up and dominated the league. The Steelers had the greatest array of talent in modern history and they played pure straight great football, the embodiment of how the game was supposed to have been played. Noll built it and held the conductor's baton.

Just like 74 we do not know what a Tomlin SB team feels like. The previous teams he took to the Super Bowl were fully stocked. He did a good job with the winning hand he was dealt. The deck has been reshuffled and this is now his team. This team has some indications that it's a championship squad but this team also has some flaws that can undermine it, and that sounds so typical of Mike Tomlin the man.

Ben is playing the best football of his career he's got more weapons than we have probably ever had in the garage and the defense has some damn good players, some tough kids and should be good enough to win. But this is a Tomlin team. We had home field in the palm of our hands and we lost it not by something the other team did but by what we failed to do. That is not a championship squad as we defined it according to Noll but maybe that's a championship squad as we will define it according to Tomlin. We cut a player who is a legend and created an epic public relations failure and may or may not have improved the roster of our chief rival for the AFC berth in the Super Bowl. Again, Noll would not have done this but this is a Tomlin team and we don't know if that was a good thing or a bad thing or nothing.

One thing we know for certain if Mike can pull it off and win the Super Bowl then he deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Noll. Right now he still several bricks shy of having Noll's status.

There is something that we can't define going on with the league and with the Patriots. It has odor, corruption and unholiness written all over it. There is an illogical disconnect creating a dissonance, catches that are not catches, touchdowns that aren't touchdowns, holding and facemasks infractions that aren't holding and facemask infractions, and the craziest one of them all. Pure unadulterated alpha males being manipulated into being beta social justice warriors. Even the league is off its axis.

I hope Mike pulls it off.


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In 74 we did not know what it felt like to be a Super Bowl team, that team defined the process and the route and once established the team knew what it took to get back there and win it again. The 76 team had almost all the elements, the losing streak and the roadblock being Oakland kept us out of the Super Bowl that year. The pattern in the league then was one team rising above several damn good teams to win the Super Bowl and only the best of those repeated. After drugs and the World Football League undercut the Dolphins the Steelers rose up and dominated the league. The Steelers had the greatest array of talent in modern history and they played pure straight great football, the embodiment of how the game was supposed to have been played. Noll built it and held the conductor's baton.

Just like 74 we do not know what a Tomlin SB team feels like. The previous teams he took to the Super Bowl were fully stocked. He did a good job with the winning hand he was dealt. The deck has been reshuffled and this is now his team. This team has some indications that it's a championship squad but this team also has some flaws that can undermine it, and that sounds so typical of Mike Tomlin the man.

Ben is playing the best football of his career he's got more weapons than we have probably ever had in the garage and the defense has some damn good players, some tough kids and should be good enough to win. But this is a Tomlin team. We had home field in the palm of our hands and we lost it not by something the other team did but by what we failed to do. That is not a championship squad as we defined it according to Noll but maybe that's a championship squad as we will define it according to Tomlin. We cut a player who is a legend and created an epic public relations failure and may or may not have improved the roster of our chief rival for the AFC berth in the Super Bowl. Again, Noll would not have done this but this is a Tomlin team and we don't know if that was a good thing or a bad thing or nothing.

One thing we know for certain if Mike can pull it off and win the Super Bowl then he deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Noll. Right now he still several bricks shy of having Noll's status.

There is something that we can't define going on with the league and with the Patriots. It has odor, corruption and unholiness written all over it. There is an illogical disconnect creating a dissonance, catches that are not catches, touchdowns that aren't touchdowns, holding and facemasks infractions that aren't holding and facemask infractions, and the craziest one of them all. Pure unadulterated alpha males being manipulated into being beta social justice warriors. Even the league is off its axis.

I hope Mike pulls it off.


Great post. I hope he does, too. In fact, I WANT to mention Tomlin's name up there with Chuck Noll. There's no way I can right now.

By the way, I'm not so sure the Patriots have been dominant this decade as the VA guy says. They have been with the Steelers, but the two Super Bowls they've won this decade were because of idiotic coaching/decision making on both Seattle and Atlanta. I may be down on Tomlin, but I would take him over Carroll or Quinn. The Patriots can be had. Tom Coughlin knows how to do it. So does John Harbaugh. Hell, even Gary Kubiak, John Fox and Rex Ryan did it. Why can't Tomlin figure it out? That's my question.

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In 74 we did not know what it felt like to be a Super Bowl team, that team defined the process and the route and once established the team knew what it took to get back there and win it again. The 76 team had almost all the elements, the losing streak and the roadblock being Oakland kept us out of the Super Bowl that year. The pattern in the league then was one team rising above several damn good teams to win the Super Bowl and only the best of those repeated. After drugs and the World Football League undercut the Dolphins the Steelers rose up and dominated the league. The Steelers had the greatest array of talent in modern history and they played pure straight great football, the embodiment of how the game was supposed to have been played. Noll built it and held the conductor's baton.

Just like 74 we do not know what a Tomlin SB team feels like. The previous teams he took to the Super Bowl were fully stocked. He did a good job with the winning hand he was dealt. The deck has been reshuffled and this is now his team. This team has some indications that it's a championship squad but this team also has some flaws that can undermine it, and that sounds so typical of Mike Tomlin the man.

Ben is playing the best football of his career he's got more weapons than we have probably ever had in the garage and the defense has some damn good players, some tough kids and should be good enough to win. But this is a Tomlin team. We had home field in the palm of our hands and we lost it not by something the other team did but by what we failed to do. That is not a championship squad as we defined it according to Noll but maybe that's a championship squad as we will define it according to Tomlin. We cut a player who is a legend and created an epic public relations failure and may or may not have improved the roster of our chief rival for the AFC berth in the Super Bowl. Again, Noll would not have done this but this is a Tomlin team and we don't know if that was a good thing or a bad thing or nothing.

One thing we know for certain if Mike can pull it off and win the Super Bowl then he deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Noll. Right now he still several bricks shy of having Noll's status.

There is something that we can't define going on with the league and with the Patriots. It has odor, corruption and unholiness written all over it. There is an illogical disconnect creating a dissonance, catches that are not catches, touchdowns that aren't touchdowns, holding and facemasks infractions that aren't holding and facemask infractions, and the craziest one of them all. Pure unadulterated alpha males being manipulated into being beta social justice warriors. Even the league is off its axis.

I hope Mike pulls it off.


Great post. I hope he does, too. In fact, I WANT to mention Tomlin's name up there with Chuck Noll. There's no way I can right now.

By the way, I'm not so sure the Patriots have been dominant this decade as the VA guy says. They have been with the Steelers, but the two Super Bowls they've won this decade were because of idiotic coaching/decision making on both Seattle and Atlanta. I may be down on Tomlin, but I would take him over Carroll or Quinn. The Patriots can be had. Tom Coughlin knows how to do it. So does John Harbaugh. Hell, even Gary Kubiak, John Fox and Rex Ryan did it. Why can't Tomlin figure it out? That's my question.

He hasn't had the players to do it, but I think he does this year.

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He hasn't had the players to do it, but I think he does this year.


We'll see. I hope you're right. Not so sure I agree he hasn't had the players to do it in the past, but I'll not argue the point.

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The Patriots can be had. Tom Coughlin knows how to do it. So does John Harbaugh. Hell, even Gary Kubiak, John Fox and Rex Ryan did it. Why can't Tomlin figure it out? That's my question.

Simple...attrition football. You must attack the Pats, on both sides of the ball, from opening kick til final gun. If you get a chance, you must bury them. With Belicheck on the sidelines, Tomma on 5he field, and Ernie lurking in the shadows, they’re eventually going to figure you out. If you leave the door open they are going to come barging through. Tomlin hasn’t been able to figure that out...
Not having the players is just another bullshit excuse for Tomlin’s failures against the Pats. Tomlin had and has very good players...BB just has him in the bag.

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I don't care about comparisions at this point just win their home game go up to NE and let Ben do his thing and win in Minny


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Not having the players is just another bullshit excuse for Tomlin’s failures against the Pats.

No it's not.

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74-64=10

Being good at numbers like this example paved the way for a career in accounting


But did you ever work in a bank?


Might be the best thing ever from this group as a whole. Just amazing. Up there with William Pitt the Elder.


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