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 Post subject: Re: NFL.com October article:Ben Roethlisberger's not a top-1
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:49 am 
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steelmann58 wrote:
Ben got hot just at the correct time


You mean the entire second half of the year?


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 Post subject: Re: NFL.com October article:Ben Roethlisberger's not a top-1
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:37 am 
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All that said, these last 10 games since the JAX debacle have been as good as any 10-game stretch I've seen in Ben's entire career - first ballot HOFer Ben nearly every play, nearly every week in that span.


Starting at the Titans game and up through now, I think he's probably playing the best football of his career.


Hell, he had that stretch of 3 straight games where he was mediocre against CHI and BAL, and bad (more unlucky) against JAX....the rest of the season he's played at an MVP level pretty much every game (except DET).

2:1 TD/INT ratio would be historically quite good, but fairly average in today's NFL. JJ's catch is ruled a TD against NE and I think Ben would deserve the MVP. And forget the passes he missed the first half of the year, think what his numbers would be if the receivers got half of what they missed those games.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL.com October article:Ben Roethlisberger's not a top-1
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:42 am 
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Really no reason to listen to anything Schein says. He is a typical reactionary sensationalist sports show loser, with a giant grouper fish mouth.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL.com October article:Ben Roethlisberger's not a top-1
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Still gotta wonder why such an incredible player got off to such a shitty start.

He flat-out didn't look very engaged. Not sure if he was fighting with Haley, his wife or what, but Ben looked very, very out of it early in the season.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL.com October article:Ben Roethlisberger's not a top-1
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:29 am 
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 Post subject: Re: NFL.com October article:Ben Roethlisberger's not a top-1
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 Post subject: Re: NFL.com October article:Ben Roethlisberger's not a top-1
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:19 pm 
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Still gotta wonder why such an incredible player got off to such a shitty start.

He flat-out didn't look very engaged. Not sure if he was fighting with Haley, his wife or what, but Ben looked very, very out of it early in the season.


He was put in a shitty system, in my view

We opened up the offense and Ben and the offense came alive. Not a surprise to me.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL.com October article:Ben Roethlisberger's not a top-1
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At the start of the regular season, look at his targets:

AB double and triple teamed, literally.
Bryant hadn't played in a year and seemed to have forgotten how to play the position.
Bell hadn't practiced in months and looked a bit off doing everything he normally does really well.
JuJu was a rookie who'd never played in an NFL game.
Hunter had the dropsies.
Eli Rogers was running bad routes, not getting his hands ready to catch the ball, and generally being invisible.

Add to that a byzantine, asinine U shaped play card and grab bag garbage like 5 screens on the first 6 plays in Chicago... are we wondering why Ben got off to a mediocre start?

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 Post subject: Re: NFL.com October article:Ben Roethlisberger's not a top-1
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:43 pm 
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At the start of the regular season, look at his targets:

AB double and triple teamed, literally.
Bryant hadn't played in a year and seemed to have forgotten how to play the position.
Bell hadn't practiced in months and looked a bit off doing everything he normally does really well.
JuJu was a rookie who'd never played in an NFL game.
Hunter had the dropsies.
Eli Rogers was running bad routes, not getting his hands ready to catch the ball, and generally being invisible.

Add to that a byzantine, asinine U shaped play card and grab bag garbage like 5 screens on the first 6 plays in Chicago... are we wondering why Ben got off to a mediocre start?


^^ Spot on


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 Post subject: Re: NFL.com October article:Ben Roethlisberger's not a top-1
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Hinestuff wrote:
steelmann58 wrote:
Ben got hot just at the correct time


You mean the entire second half of the year?

Second half of the colts game exactly


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