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 Post subject: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Browns
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:35 pm 
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The Steelers are expected to hold Ben Roethlisberger and Le'Veon Bell out for Sunday's finale.

The word came from teammate Marcus Gilbert in a Thursday radio interview. The Steelers apparently don't expect the Jets to give the Patriots a game, which would be the only way Pittsburgh could improve from the No. 2 seed. It also means the 0-15 Browns will have a much greater shot at avoiding 0-16. Landry Jones will be under center for Pittsburgh. 35-year-old Roethlisberger will be working on two weeks rest in the Divisional Round.

Source: Joe Rutter on Twitter Dec 28 - 4:12 PM


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:38 pm 
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I don’t like it.

I could see LB with his heavy workload and injury history, in fact I love THAT move but Ben, he should at least play the first half. 3 weeks without the big guy playing at game speed? Not a fan


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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I don’t like it.

I could see LB with his heavy workload and injury history, in fact I love THAT move but Ben, he should at least play the first half. 3 weeks without the big guy playing at game speed? Not a fan


I tend to agree. I definitely sit Bell, given he's being hit on every carry. I think Ben, at his position, is better able to avoid injury...play him a half.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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swissvale72 wrote:
Hinestuff wrote:
I don’t like it.

I could see LB with his heavy workload and injury history, in fact I love THAT move but Ben, he should at least play the first half. 3 weeks without the big guy playing at game speed? Not a fan


I tend to agree. I definitely sit Bell, given he's being hit on every carry. I think Ben, at his position, is better able to avoid injury...play him a half.


THIS

Bell needs to be held out at all costs


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:52 pm 
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Wow! I get the injury history with Ben and Bell, but there is a chance that the Steelers get home field advantage. Imagine if the Pats lose, and then Landry tosses a pick-6 to give Cleveland the win.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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I can see the arguments either way but I'd be inclined to play to win.

What happens if the Jets are up on the Pats late (or even halftime) and the Steelers are behind? Does Ben enter to try to win the game assuming he's in uniform?


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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I wonder if the Jets are giving NE a game if Ben wouldn't relieve Laundry.

Otherwise, I tend to agree with having a week off that Ben should play a half. But can you really risk Ben getting hurt (sometimes the guy just can't help himself trying to extend a play)? Very low chance NE loses to the Jets, and PIT can beat NE with Laundry.

But I definitely lean toward playing Ben a half, and then see what kind of game NE is having. The flipside is if Ben got dinged and had to miss a few series in a playoff game, the reps here for Laundry could be critical.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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FWIW, it's being reported the Gilbert is the one who spilled the beans about BR and LB not playing. However, Gilbert is denying that he said it. So....you know. Steelers shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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I'm fine sitting bell. Give him two weeks off to rest up. I'd prefer to play ben for a half to keep him sharp. Granted it's usually due to injury but he's had issues after sitting for an extended period of time


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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Kodiak wrote:
I wonder if the Jets are giving NE a game if Ben wouldn't relieve Laundry.

Otherwise, I tend to agree with having a week off that Ben should play a half. But can you really risk Ben getting hurt (sometimes the guy just can't help himself trying to extend a play)? Very low chance NE loses to the Jets, and PIT can beat NE with Laundry.

But I definitely lean toward playing Ben a half, and then see what kind of game NE is having. The flipside is if Ben got dinged and had to miss a few series in a playoff game, the reps here for Laundry could be critical.


That's what I think should happen. It sounds like ass-backwards thinking, but go in assuming Patriots will win. If it looks like they could lose, then play Ben...AND maybe Bell. Sounds like Pouncey might sit as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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Ben needs another half to develop more rapport with the WR's, not named Antonio Brown.

Resting Ben for nearly three weeks is a mistake, by an ultra conservative coaching staff.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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Stillchest wrote:
Ben needs another half to develop more rapport with the WR's, not named Antonio Brown.

Resting Ben for nearly three weeks is a mistake, by an ultra conservative coaching staff.


Yes. Great point about the WR group.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:30 pm 
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Sit em!
I don’t want to watch another playoff game without a Killer B.
We are not even sure AB will be back 100%

Patriots are not going to lose to Bryce Petty.

I can live with a playoff loss from being rusty.
I can’t live with a playoff loss from Ben or Bell being injured or banged up from playing in a meaningless game.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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Big mistake.

I seriously do not understand our coaches' thinking at times.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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Right call on Bell. We’ve seen how bad the depth chart is behind him and he’s missed too much playoff time in the past. I’d have given Ben a half, but go ahead and give him 2 weeks to get ready for those Jags. Still worried AB won’t be 100%


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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I'm surprised since the season is not over.

And as others have mentioned, our receiving group minus AB could use more reps as a group. AB's status going forward is uncertain.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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swissvale72 wrote:
Hinestuff wrote:
I don’t like it.

I could see LB with his heavy workload and injury history, in fact I love THAT move but Ben, he should at least play the first half. 3 weeks without the big guy playing at game speed? Not a fan


I tend to agree. I definitely sit Bell, given he's being hit on every carry. I think Ben, at his position, is better able to avoid injury...play him a half.

agree...don't like ben idle that long.seems to gather rust..unless he has a nagging injury id rather he play a half to keep in routine.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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Was going to say the same thing Perch, sept I hope to see Bell and Ben both the first half. Then sit them.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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We need to win on the off chance the Jets win. Go Laundry! Besides, making the Browns 0-16 would be fun.


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 Post subject: No Ben or Bell vs Browns
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[quoteJoe Rutter



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 Post subject: Re: No Ben or Bell vs Browns
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Kind of odd with a theoretical shot at the #1 seed still on the table, isn't it?

I mean, I don't expect the Jets to beat NE anymore than anyone else...but stranger things have happened.


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 Post subject: Re: No Ben or Bell vs Browns
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Look forward to seein Jones and Ridley.


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 Post subject: Re: No Ben or Bell vs Browns
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Lynch wrote:
Look forward to seein Jones and Ridley.


Hahaha!


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:24 pm 
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Laundry’s show

If the Jets are winning in 2nd half ( <1% chance) you put your studs in

Won’t happen though

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers are expected to hold Ben and Bell out vs. Brown
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SP wrote:
Right call on Bell. We’ve seen how bad the depth chart is behind him and he’s missed too much playoff time in the past. I’d have given Ben a half, but go ahead and give him 2 weeks to get ready for those Jags. Still worried AB won’t be 100%


Agreed.

The Patriots aren't losing at home to a Jets team playing for nothing. And if we can't beat an 0-15 Browns team without Ben at home then fuck, we don't deserve it anyways. I don't think AB is going to be right until SB time, so I just hope we're still playing. I'd sit Ben in full though. I remember him getting carted off the field against the Browns late in the season a few years back that hurt us for a potential playoff run.

As for Bell needing a few yards to get the rushing title... it's like Tomlin told Willie Parker, he doesn't walk past six rushing titles each morning, it's six Lombardi's. Who gives a shit. Wrap him up until the playoffs.

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