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 Post subject: Re: Black Monday
PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:24 pm 
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Hmmmmmmm

- Browns - 1-31 over the last 2 years
- Bungles - 2nd straight losing season and no playoff wins in Lewis' 15 years
- Ravens - Missed playoffs 3 years straight and 4 of the last 5

Combined those three teams had a record of 10-36 this when not playing each other and all three are bringing back their coaches. :roll:

Works for me :D


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 Post subject: Re: Black Monday
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Stillerz Bar wrote:
Hmmmmmmm

- Browns - 1-31 over the last 2 years
- Bungles - 2nd straight losing season and no playoff wins in Lewis' 15 years
- Ravens - Missed playoffs 3 years straight and 4 of the last 5

Combined those three teams had a record of 10-36 this when not playing each other and all three are bringing back their coaches. :roll:

Works for me :D


And weirdly enough we've only swept the division THIS YEAR and 2008 in Tomlin's tenure


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 Post subject: Re: Black Monday
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I’m not the biggest Tomlin fan in the world, but imagine the bidding war for him if the Steelers ever cut him loose.


And the Steelers will be smart and find someone like the rams coach


Don't be so sure. When's the last time the franchise had to hire a new coach without Dan Rooney's input?

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 Post subject: Re: Black Monday
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
Stillerz Bar wrote:
Hmmmmmmm

- Browns - 1-31 over the last 2 years
- Bungles - 2nd straight losing season and no playoff wins in Lewis' 15 years
- Ravens - Missed playoffs 3 years straight and 4 of the last 5

Combined those three teams had a record of 10-36 this when not playing each other and all three are bringing back their coaches. :roll:

Works for me :D


And weirdly enough we've only swept the division THIS YEAR and 2008 in Tomlin's tenure


Willing to bet that since Tomlin became HC no team has swept their division more than twice.

I believe the Pats have only done it three times since Brady was drafted and the AFCE is supposed by many to be a dumpster fire.

I think Manning Colts only did it three times.

So maybe it is not weird at all?

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 Post subject: Re: Black Monday
PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:40 am 
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Well, for me, this playoff run is all about the legacy of Ben, Brown and Bell. The Killer B's finally all together and ready to put their collective hand around New England's throat and saying enough is enough.

But it isn't like that trio has to do it alone, you have Bryant, you have JuJu, you have Vance McDonald. Too many times over the last few seasons against NE we have had multiple pieces missing from the offense, either Bell was out, or Brown and Bryant were missing, or this season you had Brown leave early and Vance McDonald was out. I can't wait to see what this offense can do with EVERYBODY able to play against NE. With all of those players how does Belichick stop them? It was easy when there were injuries, when either Bell or Brown was out and you could double up on the last remaining big gun. But now? Now the Steelers should be so much better to crush NE. Try to take away Brown and JuJu and Bryant will make you pay. By some miracle if you take away that trio of WRs, then we should be able to kill NE with the short underneath routes to Bell and McDonald
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I want to see this offense just refuse to play small ball, to instead say, hey, try and keep up Brady.

I see no reason why this team can't put over 40 points on New England's defense. And if the offense has Brady playing from behind, it lets the defense play loose and be opportunistic with turnovers.


Scunge.
That is absolutely how they should game plan the offense.
The type of game plan that gives Ben the keys and allows him to use all his weapons.
Find the open man. Incorporate the TE's.
Its what they did from Thursday night vs. Tennessee when they put up 40.............thru three quarters against the Pats.

And then Tomlin and Haley took the foot off the pedal.

So yes, what you describe is how we should play it.
All the weapons are there.
The OL should be 100%.
With Ben pretty healthy and a week of rest.
AB should be 80-90%.......with JuJu, Bryant, Bell, McDonald and James all contributing.

The only X=factor is.
Will the coaching staff think the same.
Or will they go back into playoff safe mode and look to hand the ball to Bell 35-38 times...........settle for 3's.
Turning many pass attempts into critical 3rd down pass plays.

The offense should be the reason we go get #7.
Give the defense a lead. Take some pressure off those guys.

Can't wait for Sunday the 14th.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Monday
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Stosh-67 wrote:
Scunge wrote:
Well, for me, this playoff run is all about the legacy of Ben, Brown and Bell. The Killer B's finally all together and ready to put their collective hand around New England's throat and saying enough is enough.

But it isn't like that trio has to do it alone, you have Bryant, you have JuJu, you have Vance McDonald. Too many times over the last few seasons against NE we have had multiple pieces missing from the offense, either Bell was out, or Brown and Bryant were missing, or this season you had Brown leave early and Vance McDonald was out. I can't wait to see what this offense can do with EVERYBODY able to play against NE. With all of those players how does Belichick stop them? It was easy when there were injuries, when either Bell or Brown was out and you could double up on the last remaining big gun. But now? Now the Steelers should be so much better to crush NE. Try to take away Brown and JuJu and Bryant will make you pay. By some miracle if you take away that trio of WRs, then we should be able to kill NE with the short underneath routes to Bell and McDonald
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I want to see this offense just refuse to play small ball, to instead say, hey, try and keep up Brady.

I see no reason why this team can't put over 40 points on New England's defense. And if the offense has Brady playing from behind, it lets the defense play loose and be opportunistic with turnovers.


Scunge.
That is absolutely how they should game plan the offense.
The type of game plan that gives Ben the keys and allows him to use all his weapons.
Find the open man. Incorporate the TE's.
Its what they did from Thursday night vs. Tennessee when they put up 40.............thru three quarters against the Pats.

And then Tomlin and Haley took the foot off the pedal.

So yes, what you describe is how we should play it.
All the weapons are there.
The OL should be 100%.
With Ben pretty healthy and a week of rest.
AB should be 80-90%.......with JuJu, Bryant, Bell, McDonald and James all contributing.

The only X=factor is.
Will the coaching staff think the same.
Or will they go back into playoff safe mode and look to hand the ball to Bell 35-38 times...........settle for 3's.
Turning many pass attempts into critical 3rd down pass plays.

The offense should be the reason we go get #7.
Give the defense a lead. Take some pressure off those guys.

Can't wait for Sunday the 14th.


Go back and look at the play calling in the 3rd Q...e1 just talks about the turtling in the 4th, which was obvious and not shocking, but in the 3rd Q as well, they played very conservative to say the least. Ben only threw a couple passes for a couple yards...nothing aggressive and down the field. It was ridiculous.

NE did open up 3rd Q with long drive that chewed up clock tho.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Monday
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The only time to take the foot off the pedal is when there's a comfortable lead. What's comfortable with Pats? mmm, hard to tell, but if its snowing, run that ball and chew up the clock. We would all scream if a turnover occurred that put them back into quickly. If it is just cold, no crazy winds, just keep using the whole playbook until the clock is at 0.

Can't forget 28-3 come back with two two point conversions.


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The only time to take the foot off the pedal is when there's a comfortable lead. What's comfortable with Pats? mmm, hard to tell, but if its snowing, run that ball and chew up the clock. We would all scream if a turnover occurred that put them back into quickly. If it is just cold, no crazy winds, just keep using the whole playbook until the clock is at 0.

Can't forget 28-3 come back with two two point conversions.


My point is, Ben destroyed them in the first half only to not be given the chance in the 2nd half.


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Keep the pedal all the way through all 4 quarters and if they lead at the end ben should disconnect his microphone


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 Post subject: Re: Black Monday
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Hinestuff wrote:
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The only time to take the foot off the pedal is when there's a comfortable lead. What's comfortable with Pats? mmm, hard to tell, but if its snowing, run that ball and chew up the clock. We would all scream if a turnover occurred that put them back into quickly. If it is just cold, no crazy winds, just keep using the whole playbook until the clock is at 0.

Can't forget 28-3 come back with two two point conversions.


My point is, Ben destroyed them in the first half only to not be given the chance in the 2nd half.

Yup.

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First Half.
15-19 183 yds - 2 TD
6 first down passes out of 16 first down plays in first half.

Second Half ( before last drive in which pass was a must )
5-7 27 yds
1 first down pass out of 11 first down plays.
safe short passes.
I think every pass in the 4th quarter was short of stick? ( sans last drive )

Their last 8 first down plays were runs, good for 19 yards
The last 4 went for a total of 4 yards.

Throw in the 2nd & 23 run.

they had a combined 19 first and 2nd down plays in the second half. 17 were runs.

they were comfortable in their approach.
embraced it...if you will.
Don't live in their fears.

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Keep the pedal all the way through all 4 quarters and if they lead at the end ben should disconnect his microphone


Love it, that made me chuckle. Imagine that actually happening :-)


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VASteelerGuy wrote:
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Keep the pedal all the way through all 4 quarters and if they lead at the end ben should disconnect his microphone


Love it, that made me chuckle. Imagine that actually happening :-)


Amen.

Dilly dilly!

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 Post subject: Re: Black Monday
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Still Lit wrote:
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Hmmmmmmm

- Browns - 1-31 over the last 2 years
- Bungles - 2nd straight losing season and no playoff wins in Lewis' 15 years
- Ravens - Missed playoffs 3 years straight and 4 of the last 5

Combined those three teams had a record of 10-36 this when not playing each other and all three are bringing back their coaches. :roll:

Works for me :D


And weirdly enough we've only swept the division THIS YEAR and 2008 in Tomlin's tenure


Willing to bet that since Tomlin became HC no team has swept their division more than twice.

I believe the Pats have only done it three times since Brady was drafted and the AFCE is supposed by many to be a dumpster fire.

I think Manning Colts only did it three times.

So maybe it is not weird at all?


It was more to the point of those who scream: OUR DIVISION IS SOOOOO TOUGH that they give whatever pass they can to Tomlin for not AT LEAST securing the #2 seed more than one time in his tenure.


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It was more to the point of those who scream: OUR DIVISION IS SOOOOO TOUGH that they give whatever pass they can to Tomlin for not AT LEAST securing the #2 seed more than one time in his tenure.

This will be the third time: 2008, 2010, and now 2017

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I also think you need to trust Ben in bad weather (snow, wind, ice, rain)

He has always played in nothing but bad weather throughout his football career...college, pros.

But look what he did that first half against NE? Why not do the same in Q 3?

What has been really mind boggling is how little he gets to throw on 1st down. I can't understand this. How much more explosive could we be if we ran P/A on 1st down OR just looked to get one on one matchups with our top 3 WR and threw them the ball?

I always remember one of my favorites, Dan Marino in an interview talking about 1st and 10 being the best time to throw the ball. In the current NFL it's a no-brainer.


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Fire John Harbaugh, I mean when was the last time he even made the playoffs?

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Then, if Tomlin fails to reach the Super Bowl, it will be the perfect opportunity to dump Tomlin, hire Harbaugh and satisfy a large contingent of Steeler fans. Steelers problems solved.

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Fuck that crying little bitch John Whinebaugh. Fuck his brother too.


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Stosh-67 wrote:
Hinestuff wrote:
VASteelerGuy wrote:
The only time to take the foot off the pedal is when there's a comfortable lead. What's comfortable with Pats? mmm, hard to tell, but if its snowing, run that ball and chew up the clock. We would all scream if a turnover occurred that put them back into quickly. If it is just cold, no crazy winds, just keep using the whole playbook until the clock is at 0.

Can't forget 28-3 come back with two two point conversions.


My point is, Ben destroyed them in the first half only to not be given the chance in the 2nd half.

Yup.

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First Half.
15-19 183 yds - 2 TD
6 first down passes out of 16 first down plays in first half.

Second Half ( before last drive in which pass was a must )
5-7 27 yds
1 first down pass out of 11 first down plays.
safe short passes.
I think every pass in the 4th quarter was short of stick? ( sans last drive )

Their last 8 first down plays were runs, good for 19 yards
The last 4 went for a total of 4 yards.

Throw in the 2nd & 23 run.

they had a combined 19 first and 2nd down plays in the second half. 17 were runs.

they were comfortable in their approach.
embraced it...if you will.
Don't live in their fears.


This is great info. Honestly i didn't have a problem with it until the 2nd to last drive.

IMO on the drive that started on the 5 we were 1 holding penalty from Villanueva from a 95 yd drive - all on the ground. Steelers were absolutely trucking them on that drive until 2nd and 1 became 1st and 20.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Monday
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Stosh-67 wrote:
Hinestuff wrote:
VASteelerGuy wrote:
The only time to take the foot off the pedal is when there's a comfortable lead. What's comfortable with Pats? mmm, hard to tell, but if its snowing, run that ball and chew up the clock. We would all scream if a turnover occurred that put them back into quickly. If it is just cold, no crazy winds, just keep using the whole playbook until the clock is at 0.

Can't forget 28-3 come back with two two point conversions.


My point is, Ben destroyed them in the first half only to not be given the chance in the 2nd half.

Yup.

Ben
First Half.
15-19 183 yds - 2 TD
6 first down passes out of 16 first down plays in first half.

Second Half ( before last drive in which pass was a must )
5-7 27 yds
1 first down pass out of 11 first down plays.
safe short passes.
I think every pass in the 4th quarter was short of stick? ( sans last drive )

Their last 8 first down plays were runs, good for 19 yards
The last 4 went for a total of 4 yards.

Throw in the 2nd & 23 run.

they had a combined 19 first and 2nd down plays in the second half. 17 were runs.

they were comfortable in their approach.
embraced it...if you will.
Don't live in their fears.


Great stuff Stosh. And maddening. All but ensured NE plays at home all playoffs yet again.


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Also I think Kevin Greene is currently coaching OLB with the Jets of New York.


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Stosh-67 wrote:
Hinestuff wrote:
VASteelerGuy wrote:
The only time to take the foot off the pedal is when there's a comfortable lead. What's comfortable with Pats? mmm, hard to tell, but if its snowing, run that ball and chew up the clock. We would all scream if a turnover occurred that put them back into quickly. If it is just cold, no crazy winds, just keep using the whole playbook until the clock is at 0.

Can't forget 28-3 come back with two two point conversions.


My point is, Ben destroyed them in the first half only to not be given the chance in the 2nd half.

Yup.

Ben
First Half.
15-19 183 yds - 2 TD
6 first down passes out of 16 first down plays in first half.

Second Half ( before last drive in which pass was a must )
5-7 27 yds
1 first down pass out of 11 first down plays.
safe short passes.
I think every pass in the 4th quarter was short of stick? ( sans last drive )

Their last 8 first down plays were runs, good for 19 yards
The last 4 went for a total of 4 yards.

Throw in the 2nd & 23 run.

they had a combined 19 first and 2nd down plays in the second half. 17 were runs.

they were comfortable in their approach.
embraced it...if you will.
Don't live in their fears.


I'll endorse Lifelong's post from the previous page, Stosh. Running on first down on the Steelers first two possessions of the 2nd half (there were 5 possessions total) was not a problem. In fact, the first drive stalled when the Steelers STOPPED running on first down. And, stated on previous OPs, I didn't have a big problem with first down run to Bell with 4 minutes left. The 1st & 20 run, the 2nd & 23 draw...those were problematic. That was a BIG possession.


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Anyone else expecting this to be an utter and colossal failure for the Raiduhs?

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