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 Post subject: Re: Extremely detailed article on Steelers thoughts on NFL c
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you need to rephrase the OP line. Say Mike Mitchell

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BethlehemSteel wrote:
you need to rephrase the OP line. Say Mike Mitchell



They do also interview Dupree, Wilcox, and Lloyd

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 Post subject: Re: Extremely detailed article on Steelers thoughts on NFL c
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RooneyTunes wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:
you need to rephrase the OP line. Say Mike Mitchell



They do also interview Dupree, Wilcox, and Lloyd


Sorry i quit reading after i saw whiny Mitchell crying

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 Post subject: Re: Extremely detailed article on Steelers thoughts on NFL c
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Man to see real journalism on Bleacher Report makes me yearn for the days when some high school kid tried to edit my story for using AP Style that he wasn't familiar with.

I could've been in Minnesota writing for Yahoo and Bleacher Report and making no money if I had just known they'd become legit someday.

Anyway, as for the article. Mitchell is right except when he blames the rules for Shazier not knowing how to tackle properly.

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 Post subject: Re: Extremely detailed article on Steelers thoughts on NFL c
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fortythree wrote:
Man to see real journalism on Bleacher Report makes me yearn for the days when some high school kid tried to edit my story for using AP Style that he wasn't familiar with.

I could've been in Minnesota writing for Yahoo and Bleacher Report and making no money if I had just known they'd become legit someday.

Anyway, as for the article. Mitchell is right except when he blames the rules for Shazier not knowing how to tackle properly.


Fortythree - That guy who writes for SCI - Jon Ledyard - his style is born of message ramblings. I can't make myself read anything he writes. It's a shame because I really enjoy Jim Wexell's writing.

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 Post subject: Re: Extremely detailed article on Steelers thoughts on NFL c
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Anyway, as for the article. Mitchell is right except when he blames the rules for Shazier not knowing how to tackle properly.
I didn't read it that way. I think he's suggesting the rules make defenders tackle low. Shazier collided with the runner's thigh or knee, I think. It was a fluke. Not everybody will make a "proper" tackle 100% of the time. Troy P tackled like Shazier his whole career. I suppose he never learned to tackle properly either?

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fortythree wrote:
Man to see real journalism on Bleacher Report makes me yearn for the days when some high school kid tried to edit my story for using AP Style that he wasn't familiar with.

I could've been in Minnesota writing for Yahoo and Bleacher Report and making no money if I had just known they'd become legit someday.

Anyway, as for the article. Mitchell is right except when he blames the rules for Shazier not knowing how to tackle properly.


Fortythree - That guy who writes for SCI - Jon Ledyard - his style is born of message ramblings. I can't make myself read anything he writes. It's a shame because I really enjoy Jim Wexell's writing.


I love Ledyard. He knows his shit. Great on Twitter and great on radio hits. Never read his long form stuff though.

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 Post subject: Re: Extremely detailed article on Steelers thoughts on NFL c
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You hit it Beth. I swear he's auditioning for an announcers job.

BethlehemSteel wrote:
RooneyTunes wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:
you need to rephrase the OP line. Say Mike Mitchell



They do also interview Dupree, Wilcox, and Lloyd


Sorry i quit reading after i saw whiny Mitchell crying


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 Post subject: Re: Extremely detailed article on Steelers thoughts on NFL c
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Anyway, as for the article. Mitchell is right except when he blames the rules for Shazier not knowing how to tackle properly.
I didn't read it that way. I think he's suggesting the rules make defenders tackle low. Shazier collided with the runner's thigh or knee, I think. It was a fluke. Not everybody will make a "proper" tackle 100% of the time. Troy P tackled like Shazier his whole career. I suppose he never learned to tackle properly either?


Shazier wasn't avoiding a headshot. He launched himself upward toward a player still in the air and the crown of his helmet hit the guy first.

To say it was due to Shaz trying to avoid a penalty is demonstrably false.

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 Post subject: Re: Extremely detailed article on Steelers thoughts on NFL c
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Anyway, as for the article. Mitchell is right except when he blames the rules for Shazier not knowing how to tackle properly.
I didn't read it that way. I think he's suggesting the rules make defenders tackle low. Shazier collided with the runner's thigh or knee, I think. It was a fluke. Not everybody will make a "proper" tackle 100% of the time. Troy P tackled like Shazier his whole career. I suppose he never learned to tackle properly either?


Shazier wasn't avoiding a headshot. He launched himself upward toward a player still in the air and the crown of his helmet hit the guy first.

To say it was due to Shaz trying to avoid a penalty is demonstrably false.
Neither Mitchell nor I are suggesting he was trying to avoid a penalty. Blaming shaz for his injury would also be demonstably false.

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Blaming shaz for his injury would also be demonstably false.


How do you figure? He tackles with his head down constantly and eventually gets a major spinal cord injury because of it.

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fortythree wrote:
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Blaming shaz for his injury would also be demonstably false.


How do you figure? He tackles with his head down constantly and eventually gets a major spinal cord injury because of it.


I believe Polamalu had better technique than Ryan Shazier, even tho both were(are - his career may not be over) wreckless players. Not because of his injury. Just instinctually Troy was better, along with his agility.


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 Post subject: Re: Extremely detailed article on Steelers thoughts on NFL c
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Good article. Thanks for posting. Thought the writer did a good job balancing the issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Extremely detailed article on Steelers thoughts on NFL c
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fortythree wrote:
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Blaming shaz for his injury would also be demonstably false.


How do you figure? He tackles with his head down constantly and eventually gets a major spinal cord injury because of it.

That's how I interpret the Shaz injury too - he has to own this based on his history of tackling with his head down.


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Blaming shaz for his injury would also be demonstably false.


How do you figure? He tackles with his head down constantly and eventually gets a major spinal cord injury because of it.

That's how I interpret the Shaz injury too - he has to own this based on his history of tackling with his head down.
So the whole discussion of laying a strong hit is moot. That's no longer football. Heads up tackling means there is no "hit." Just a soft, wrap your arms around the runner and let him drag you for 5 -10 more yards. This is exactly what Mitchell is talking about. I'm guessing he's looking to lay a hit with his shoulder. Look at mitchell's last hit on the brownie receiver that let the ball go through his hands. A moving target doesn't allow you to micro manage your trajectory. You take your chances. I'm not denying shaz has speared. But that kind of hit happens thousands of times each sunday. The angle of the body, spinal cord, and a moving target makes it a risky proposition. And that's what Mitchell is talking about. it's a violent sport that can result in injury.

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COR-TEN...what the hell are you talking about?

“See what you hit” has been a mantra of good tackling instruction for ages...long before hard hits were legislated out of football.

You can use proper form with tackling and still hit hard.

Leading with the head has never been the way to go.

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 Post subject: Re: Extremely detailed article on Steelers thoughts on NFL c
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Jeemie wrote:
COR-TEN...what the hell are you talking about?

“See what you hit” has been a mantra of good tackling instruction for ages...long before hard hits were legislated out of football.

You can use proper form with tackling and still hit hard.

Leading with the head has never been the way to go.


That's what Jeems was always taught at Blue Band practice!!

LOL....sorry Jeems....couldn't resist....just kidding.


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 Post subject: Re: Extremely detailed article on Steelers thoughts on NFL c
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Jeemie wrote:
COR-TEN...what the hell are you talking about?

“See what you hit” has been a mantra of good tackling instruction for ages...long before hard hits were legislated out of football.

You can use proper form with tackling and still hit hard.

Leading with the head has never been the way to go.


That's what Jeems was always taught at Blue Band practice!!

LOL....sorry Jeems....couldn't resist....just kidding.


Being in the Blue Band got me some connections to the Penn State football program...I got a lot more behind the scenes info on the 1985-86 Nittany Lions I wouldn't have gotten otherwise.

I also covered our football team for the school newspaper, and our local football conference for a regional newspaper when I was in high school.

Not to mention Ton Donahoe was my driving instructor, and many of my lessons consisted of driving to the Steelers’ offices in Three Rivers Stadium.

Laugh all you want!

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