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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:23 am 
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Any updates on DBs appreciated, as I'm at work until 330. Thanks en avance!


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Ice wrote:
Any updates on DBs appreciated, as I'm at work until 330. Thanks en avance!


No excuse. I'm watching at work. :lol:

I'll post some updates later, they are just getting going.


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Charles Demarr wrote:
Ice wrote:
Any updates on DBs appreciated, as I'm at work until 330. Thanks en avance!


No excuse. I'm watching at work. :lol:

I'll post some updates later, they are just getting going.


Haha awesome. I'm thinking my students might notice the distraction. Plus, I'd probably end up discussing how Fleance's three-cone agility and KEI composite allowed him to elude Macbeth's assassins in Act III, scene 3, despite his small frame and wrist circumference.


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Ice wrote:
Charles Demarr wrote:
Ice wrote:
Any updates on DBs appreciated, as I'm at work until 330. Thanks en avance!


No excuse. I'm watching at work. :lol:

I'll post some updates later, they are just getting going.


Haha awesome. I'm thinking my students might notice the distraction. Plus, I'd probably end up discussing how Fleance's three-cone agility and KEI composite allowed him to elude Macbeth's assassins in Act III, scene 3, despite his small frame and wrist circumference.


That made me laugh.... :lol:

Donte Jackson 4.32
Denzel Ward 4.32
Parry Nickerson 4.32
Tony Brown 4.37
Jaire Alexander 4.38

Other big names:

Josh Jackson 4.49
Mike Hughes 4.53
Isaiah Oliver 4.51

All unofficial at this point.


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:10 am 
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Damn, Denzel. Jackson tested out about where I thought he would, but I figured Ward for 4.40 or so. With the buildup yesterday on Hughes' speed, that 4.5 seems pretty disappointing. That could be the fault of the buildup more than the player, though.


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https://www.landof10.com/penn-state/pen ... on-sanders


Apke ran a 4.35 Deion insinuates that he's surprised a white boy ran that fast......nobody blinks an eye. Ham-n-Egger he will be labeled.

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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R S wrote:
https://www.landof10.com/penn-state/penn-state-troy-apke-nfl-combine-draft-40-yard-dash-time-deion-sanders


Apke ran a 4.35 Deion insinuates that he's surprised a white boy ran that fast......nobody blinks an eye. Ham-n-Egger he will be labeled.

Apke is not a ham-n-egger, he’s a track guy who refuses to hit anyone and never once showed on tape using that speed downhill to make a tackle or click and close. He’s really fuckin straight line fast in shorts, though. Wow.

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Damn, Denzel. Jackson tested out about where I thought he would, but I figured Ward for 4.40 or so. With the buildup yesterday on Hughes' speed, that 4.5 seems pretty disappointing. That could be the fault of the buildup more than the player, though.

Having watched it live and replay, I think Donte Jackson stumbled at the start and pulled up with a cramp on his last step, meaning... not way to know for sure, but I’m thinking he could run sub 4.3 if he put it together.

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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I didn't get to watch the 40 drills, did Marcus Allen come up lame in his first attempt or something, or just refuse to run?

I so wanted to finally get a slow 40 time on him so people could shut up about him being a second round pick and that we would draft him. I say he is a 4.65 guy at best and want no part of him in any round. That and no hands or ballskills, 1 INT in 52 games? No thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Damn, Denzel. Jackson tested out about where I thought he would, but I figured Ward for 4.40 or so. With the buildup yesterday on Hughes' speed, that 4.5 seems pretty disappointing. That could be the fault of the buildup more than the player, though.

Having watched it live and replay, I think Donte Jackson stumbled at the start and pulled up with a cramp on his last step, meaning... not way to know for sure, but I’m thinking he could run sub 4.3 if he put it together.


I was looking at Josh, but duly noted. As mentioned, I was at work.


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Allen didn't run the 40, 3 cone or the 60 Yd Shuttle Scunge. He did participate in some of the other drills. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/marcus-al ... 6a128fa16f

Bench Press 15.0, Vertical Jump 37.0, Broad Jump 127.0, 20 Yd Shuttle 4.32

FWIW, Zierlein has him going in the 4th RND. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/ ... id=2559941


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Compare Brian Allen to anybody in this draft. Safety/Corner.... Tell me where you think he'd be drafted.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/brian-all ... 0932b4a487


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Compare Brian Allen to anybody in this draft. Safety/Corner.... Tell me where you think he'd be drafted.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/brian-all ... 0932b4a487


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
R S wrote:
https://www.landof10.com/penn-state/penn-state-troy-apke-nfl-combine-draft-40-yard-dash-time-deion-sanders


Apke ran a 4.35 Deion insinuates that he's surprised a white boy ran that fast......nobody blinks an eye. Ham-n-Egger he will be labeled.

Apke is not a ham-n-egger, he’s a track guy who refuses to hit anyone and never once showed on tape using that speed downhill to make a tackle or click and close. He’s really fuckin straight line fast in shorts, though. Wow.


He also jumped out of the building. He's raw. New to the position. Only one year of tape. He fills fast against the run but misses too many tackles. Probably due to his background as a WR. Probably a solid Teamer in the NFL.

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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R S wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
R S wrote:
https://www.landof10.com/penn-state/penn-state-troy-apke-nfl-combine-draft-40-yard-dash-time-deion-sanders


Apke ran a 4.35 Deion insinuates that he's surprised a white boy ran that fast......nobody blinks an eye. Ham-n-Egger he will be labeled.

Apke is not a ham-n-egger, he’s a track guy who refuses to hit anyone and never once showed on tape using that speed downhill to make a tackle or click and close. He’s really fuckin straight line fast in shorts, though. Wow.


He also jumped out of the building. He's raw. New to the position. Only one year of tape. He fills fast against the run but misses too many tackles. Probably due to his background as a WR. Probably a solid Teamer in the NFL.

I couldn't trust him on teams yet-- he doesn't hit anyone. Ever. He is willing to tackle but he's all arm and olé. He actually goes out of his way to avoid making body contact. I don't think he's mentally soft, I just think he's a great athlete who's not a football player right now. Undrafted practice squad guy, maybe, but he'd have a hard time making it through an NFL training camp.

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Avonte Maddox....nice showing. THoughts?

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Avonte Maddox....nice showing. THoughts?

Solid. Good in drills.

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Steelafan77 wrote:
Compare Brian Allen to anybody in this draft. Safety/Corner.... Tell me where you think he'd be drafted.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/brian-all ... 0932b4a487

Not sure about this year, but size and athletically, he's almost Harrison Smith's twin. If he has half his FB IQ I don't know why he's not in the main conversation to play FS. The Vike's Zimmer would probably have Allen playing like a top FS in the league inside of two years. We do what we do, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Tim Settle had a bad combine. Messed up a drill as well.

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Tim Settle had a bad combine. Messed up a drill as well.

He looked like a very young 19.
DaShawn Hand looked like a very mature 19.
Nathan Shepherd looked like that middle school basketball kid with a full beard and receding hairline.

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
jebrick wrote:
Tim Settle had a bad combine. Messed up a drill as well.

He looked like a very young 19.
DaShawn Hand looked like a very mature 19.
Nathan Shepherd looked like that middle school basketball kid with a full beard and receding hairline.


Tim Settle is a fatter Cam Thomas. You’ll have to ask how I really feel about him some time.


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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SP wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
jebrick wrote:
Tim Settle had a bad combine. Messed up a drill as well.

He looked like a very young 19.
DaShawn Hand looked like a very mature 19.
Nathan Shepherd looked like that middle school basketball kid with a full beard and receding hairline.


Tim Settle is a fatter Cam Thomas. You’ll have to ask how I really feel about him some time.

I’m no fan...wouldn’t draft him before day 3. If then...
I don’t think he’s an NFL talent...but what do I know?

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Settle's tape is actually flashes of brilliance. Plays really low at times and makes great plays. Long ways to go.

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John Kelly is a really good player.


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