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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:00 am 
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Orlando Brown cost himself a lot of money

10 yard split of 2 seconds!!!!!

14 bench

19 VJ Are you kidding me !!

6'10 BJ

He has shown zero explosiveness. Worst combine numbers by any OT

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:32 am 
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I understand the athleticism is implied but we and analyst's I think expect a lot from those big guys. As big as they are they can still out run people half their weight. Brown is 6'8 345 pounds. How athletic does he really have to be? If his job is to block then I think he's fine. If he's having to chase someone and actually apply the split or run after someone down field then something is very wrong. He be one of those combine losers that eventually develops into and becomes a NFL winner. AB did it. His combine wasn't anything to write home about and look where he is today. On the flip side how many "athletes" have we seen blow up the combine only to be a flash in the pan come game days? Too early to tell what Brown's career will look like. I think he may fall in the draft a bit because scouts/teams put a lot of stock in the underwear olympics unfortunately. It helped the Steelers land AB. Helped the cheats land marsha.


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:20 am 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
I understand the athleticism is implied but we and analyst's I think expect a lot from those big guys. As big as they are they can still out run people half their weight. Brown is 6'8 345 pounds. How athletic does he really have to be? If his job is to block then I think he's fine. If he's having to chase someone and actually apply the split or run after someone down field then something is very wrong. He be one of those combine losers that eventually develops into and becomes a NFL winner. AB did it. His combine wasn't anything to write home about and look where he is today. On the flip side how many "athletes" have we seen blow up the combine only to be a flash in the pan come game days? Too early to tell what Brown's career will look like. I think he may fall in the draft a bit because scouts/teams put a lot of stock in the underwear olympics unfortunately. It helped the Steelers land AB. Helped the cheats land marsha.


Jarvis Jones says hello.

Lets be clear. Orlando Brown Jr was THE WORST OT AT THE COMBINE!!! At all levels. This is from an OT that was in the running for best OT in his draft class. There are reasons that the combine tests do not change year to year. It is to compare with previous years.

I am not saying he becomes a DND but I think he falls to day 3. His Pro day is now the most important day in his life.

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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ouch... bad red flag for Chase Litton

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bucs/2018/03/01/stalking-injunction-part-of-ex-wharton-marshall-qb-chase-littons-nfl-draft-file/
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As NFL teams perform their due diligence in researching former Wharton High and Marshall quarterback Chase Litton before April's draft, they will see stories detailing his arrest as a high school sophomore on burglary and theft charges.

They also have learned of a yearlong stalking injunction obtained by a former girlfriend at Wharton after nude photos of her were posted on social media in May 2014, something that has not been previously reported publicly.

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Sounds like talking heads are finally catching on to Desean Hamilton. He’s a great route runner with very good hands. No way should he go in the 5th round like I’ve seen him projected to.


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Understandable brick. Just too early to write a 20 something off is all I'm saying.

Allen Lazard did himself a favor testing today. 17 lifts and a 4.55 official 40 @ 227 pounds. Want to see his SS, 3 cone. Vert, and long jump because one of the negatives on Lazard is lack of explosiveness. Looked to have good solid hands catching today. I believe he was ranked 5th RND also. He could move way up bottom of the 3rd? 6'4 and change, 32 1/4" arms, 9 3/4" hands....


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Could Michael Gallup sneak into the first round? WR class is not great and he has good size, looks smooth, makes catching the ball look easy.


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Steelafan77 wrote:
Understandable brick. Just too early to write a 20 something off is all I'm saying.

Allen Lazard did himself a favor testing today. 17 lifts and a 4.55 official 40 @ 227 pounds. Want to see his SS, 3 cone. Looked to have good solid hands catching today. I believe he was ranked 5th RND also. He could move way up bottom of the 3rd? 6'4 and change, 32 1/4" arms, 9 3/4" hands....

Man did he look slow coming out of his break in the WR sideline drill.


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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He did. That's one of the hits on him. Lack of explosiveness. Just edited my post to include that. Interested in his vert and broad jumps.


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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seabs926 wrote:
Could Michael Gallup sneak into the first round? WR class is not great and he has good size, looks smooth, makes catching the ball look easy.


He runs good routes. i think his explosiveness numbers will tell the tale. I thought he was the 2nd best WR in the draft.

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Dallas Goedert 23 lifts and Mike Gesicki 22 lifts bench press...

Note: This was the analysis of WR Ka'raun White. Before the 24 lifts bench press. Underdeveloped frame with thin arms. Play strength needs to get much better... https://www.nfl.com/prospects/ka'raun-w ... 8bb70e64a5


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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23 for Goedert is an eye-popping result.

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Neither one ran... Hmmm....


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Shaquem Griffin is going to bench press. I’ll be watching. :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Shaquem Griffin is going to bench press. I’ll be watching. :shock:

Kid is totally unfazed and game to do whatever. He screams core ST player and maybe better.

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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Shaquem Griffin is going to bench press. I’ll be watching. :shock:

Kid is totally unfazed and game to do whatever. He screams core ST player and maybe better.

Hands team for sure


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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Shaquem Griffin is going to bench press. I’ll be watching. :shock:

Kid is totally unfazed and game to do whatever. He screams core ST player and maybe better.


I think he will be a special teams demon.

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Both wideouts I like in this draft ran slooooooow....... Damn.

Wieneke ran a 4.68
Ateman ran a 4.62

The WO Steelers already "met" with at the combine, [Washington] ran a 4.49....


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This may cost him to drop.

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Michigan DT Maurice Hurst, projected as a potential first-round pick, was diagnosed today with a heart condition, league sources told ESPN. Hurst will not go through combine drills and will undergo further testing this week. https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... 0901530629


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Gesicki tested well in the 3 cone 6.76s, and the 20 yard Shuttle 4.10s, and the 60 yard Shuttle 11.33s, Broad Jump 129" or 10' 9"....


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Steelafan77 wrote:
Gesicki tested well in the 3 cone 6.76s, and the 20 yard Shuttle 4.10s, and the 60 yard Shuttle 11.33s, Broad Jump 129" or 10' 9"....


He’s an athlete like Gronk. At this point he doesn’t separate like he should. Blocking sucks. Amazing athlete, good hands, red zone threat but isn’t the sum of his talents yet.


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Gesicki tested well in the 3 cone 6.76s, and the 20 yard Shuttle 4.10s, and the 60 yard Shuttle 11.33s, Broad Jump 129" or 10' 9"....


He’s an athlete like Gronk. At this point he doesn’t separate like he should. Blocking sucks. Amazing athlete, good hands, red zone threat but isn’t the sum of his talents yet.




i remember a while back Dulac tweeted that the Steelers love him and hed be our 1st rnd pick


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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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Steelafan77 wrote:
Gesicki tested well in the 3 cone 6.76s, and the 20 yard Shuttle 4.10s, and the 60 yard Shuttle 11.33s, Broad Jump 129" or 10' 9"....


He’s an athlete like Gronk. At this point he doesn’t separate like he should. Blocking sucks. Amazing athlete, good hands, red zone threat but isn’t the sum of his talents yet.




i remember a while back Dulac tweeted that the Steelers love him and hed be our 1st rnd pick

Gesicki??? If he’s the 1st round pick, I’ll go to Lowe’s, buy a 2x4, drive to Pittsburgh and smack Colbert across the back of the noggin with it...

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 Post subject: Re: Combine risers
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SP wrote:
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Gesicki tested well in the 3 cone 6.76s, and the 20 yard Shuttle 4.10s, and the 60 yard Shuttle 11.33s, Broad Jump 129" or 10' 9"....


He’s an athlete like Gronk. At this point he doesn’t separate like he should. Blocking sucks. Amazing athlete, good hands, red zone threat but isn’t the sum of his talents yet.

He is the fastest awkward guy who can't run that I can recall seeing. He runs like a hunched over Smoky Burgess, yet he's really agile. It's the damnedest thing.

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Harrison Phillips 42 bench reps
Vita Veta 41

Phillips is the best interior player in the draft from a technique standpoint...He could end up top 10

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