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Big business is about image and brand

He's the most recognizable face with the institution that is Florida State University these days

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Big business is about image and brand

He's the most recognizable face with the institution that is Florida State University these days


Nobody says you have to like it. But at some point you'll need to accept it


I don't think him yelling that would reduce the attendance or lower the TV ratings come Saturday, I don't think anybody is giving away their tickets or cancelling their tail gate parties either. Just a bunch of Pharassies, hypochrites who pretend they are pious, but really full of shit.


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I'm not trying to stir up shit, but does anyone in this thread understand what a university is? And if you do, in what universe is what he did ok?

Ok, so this took 5 seconds to google:

http://srr.fsu.edu/About-Us/Mission-Statement

Mission Statement
The Florida State University Office of Student Rights and Responsibilities (SRR) mission is to facilitate student learning and development regarding community standards by balancing individual and community rights. SRR supports a safe and inclusive environment that enhances academic pursuits and student success. Institutional core values of the Seminole Creed and Responsible Freedom guide our conduct and inform policy and decisions.
Florida State University Civility Statement: Uphold the Garnet & Gold
Respect, Responsibility, Reflect
• Demonstrating respect for ourselves and others
• Taking responsibility for yourself and those around you
• Reflecting the values of Florida State
The Florida State University is a diverse community with a longstanding tradition of respect for the dignity and worth of each person. We recognize the importance of disagreement and informed debate for a dynamic learning environment, we also expect each member of our community to embrace the values of civility and ethical conduct and share in the responsibility to promote these values. Uphold the Garnet and Gold by demonstrating respect for ourselves and others, taking responsibility for yourself and those around you, and reflecting the values of Florida State

Gees, why oh why I wonder was he disciplined?

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 Post subject: Re: Jameis Winston suspended for a half vs Clemson
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:02 pm 
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Still Lit wrote:
I'm not trying to stir up shit, but does anyone in this thread understand what a university is? And if you do, in what universe is what he did ok?

Ok, so this took 5 seconds to google:

http://srr.fsu.edu/About-Us/Mission-Statement

Mission Statement
The Florida State University Office of Student Rights and Responsibilities (SRR) mission is to facilitate student learning and development regarding community standards by balancing individual and community rights. SRR supports a safe and inclusive environment that enhances academic pursuits and student success. Institutional core values of the Seminole Creed and Responsible Freedom guide our conduct and inform policy and decisions.
Florida State University Civility Statement: Uphold the Garnet & Gold
Respect, Responsibility, Reflect
• Demonstrating respect for ourselves and others
• Taking responsibility for yourself and those around you
• Reflecting the values of Florida State
The Florida State University is a diverse community with a longstanding tradition of respect for the dignity and worth of each person. We recognize the importance of disagreement and informed debate for a dynamic learning environment, we also expect each member of our community to embrace the values of civility and ethical conduct and share in the responsibility to promote these values. Uphold the Garnet and Gold by demonstrating respect for ourselves and others, taking responsibility for yourself and those around you, and reflecting the values of Florida State

Gees, why oh why I wonder was he disciplined?

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Point taken

The University lawmakers are educators, not football coaches

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 Post subject: Re: Jameis Winston suspended for a half vs Clemson
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Iron_City wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
I'm not trying to stir up shit, but does anyone in this thread understand what a university is? And if you do, in what universe is what he did ok?

Ok, so this took 5 seconds to google:

http://srr.fsu.edu/About-Us/Mission-Statement

Mission Statement
The Florida State University Office of Student Rights and Responsibilities (SRR) mission is to facilitate student learning and development regarding community standards by balancing individual and community rights. SRR supports a safe and inclusive environment that enhances academic pursuits and student success. Institutional core values of the Seminole Creed and Responsible Freedom guide our conduct and inform policy and decisions.
Florida State University Civility Statement: Uphold the Garnet & Gold
Respect, Responsibility, Reflect
• Demonstrating respect for ourselves and others
• Taking responsibility for yourself and those around you
• Reflecting the values of Florida State
The Florida State University is a diverse community with a longstanding tradition of respect for the dignity and worth of each person. We recognize the importance of disagreement and informed debate for a dynamic learning environment, we also expect each member of our community to embrace the values of civility and ethical conduct and share in the responsibility to promote these values. Uphold the Garnet and Gold by demonstrating respect for ourselves and others, taking responsibility for yourself and those around you, and reflecting the values of Florida State

Gees, why oh why I wonder was he disciplined?

:roll: :roll: :roll:


Point taken

The University lawmakers are educators, not football coaches


Actually they're administrators who often don't know shit about educating anyone. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Jameis Winston suspended for a half vs Clemson
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:14 pm 
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This is why I HATE the modern USA! A guy curses, doesn't commit a crime, doesn't do drugs, doesn't hit a precious woman, doesn't drive drunk, he say's a couple BAD WORDS-whoop-de-doo, so THAT ALONE is enough to ruin his future earnings potential? Give me a break, and FCK any country that thinks like this! God Bless Europe- a place where they'd laugh this off as a non-issue! A place where they LAUGH AT U.S. culture, deservedly so!


I get what you're saying, but three distinct points:

1. "Fuck her right in the pussy" is probably not someone who was (and is, I think) subject to a rape investigation should be yelling in public.
2. Maybe it wasn't that bad, in the grand scheme, but schools still want their high profile members, such as athletes, to reflect well on the school.
3. Shouldn't this be part of the beauty of America? No one stopped Jameis from saying it. He's not in jail. But freedom of speech isn't freedom from all repercussions.


Exactly. I've never been around a head coach or an AD wouldnt wouldn't get pissed off if one of their players stood up on a table in front of hundreds of other students and strangers in a PUBLIC area and screamed "fuck her in the pussy". That doesn't represent the team the way any coach or athletic department would want.

On what planet are people surprised he was disciplined? Student athletes are held to a higher standard and have much more to lose than Joey Jagoff down the hall in the dorm.

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 Post subject: Re: Jameis Winston suspended for a half vs Clemson
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:31 pm 
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This is why I HATE the modern USA! A guy curses, doesn't commit a crime, doesn't do drugs, doesn't hit a precious woman, doesn't drive drunk, he say's a couple BAD WORDS-whoop-de-doo, so THAT ALONE is enough to ruin his future earnings potential? Give me a break, and FCK any country that thinks like this! God Bless Europe- a place where they'd laugh this off as a non-issue! A place where they LAUGH AT U.S. culture, deservedly so!


I get what you're saying, but three distinct points:

1. "Fuck her right in the pussy" is probably not someone who was (and is, I think) subject to a rape investigation should be yelling in public.
2. Maybe it wasn't that bad, in the grand scheme, but schools still want their high profile members, such as athletes, to reflect well on the school.
3. Shouldn't this be part of the beauty of America? No one stopped Jameis from saying it. He's not in jail. But freedom of speech isn't freedom from all repercussions.


Exactly. I've never been around a head coach or an AD wouldnt wouldn't get pissed off if one of their players stood up on a table in front of hundreds of other students and strangers in a PUBLIC area and screamed "fuck her in the pussy". That doesn't represent the team the way any coach or athletic department would want.

On what planet are people surprised he was disciplined? Student athletes are held to a higher standard and have much more to lose than Joey Jagoff down the hall in the dorm.

Especially a Heisman Trophy QB, who is not just the face of the football team, but the face of the university, and the face of college football. Add the bad choices and other indiscretions, and it most certainly sets of warning bells.

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 Post subject: Re: Jameis Winston suspended for a half vs Clemson
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:24 am 
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Mission Statement
The Free Seafood University Office of Student Rights and Responsibilities (SRR) mission is to facilitate student learning and development regarding community standards by balancing individual and community rights. SRR supports a safe and inclusive environment that enhances academic pursuits and student success. Institutional core values of the Seminole Creed and Responsible Freedom guide our conduct and inform policy and decisions.
Free Seafood University Civility Statement: Uphold the Garnet & Gold
Respect, Responsibility, Reflect
• Demonstrating respect for ourselves and others
• Taking responsibility for yourself and those around you
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 Post subject: Re: Jameis Winston suspended for a half vs Clemson
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:37 am 
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Still Lit wrote:
Mission Statement
The Free Seafood University Office of Student Rights and Responsibilities (SRR) mission is to facilitate student learning and development regarding community standards by balancing individual and community rights. SRR supports a safe and inclusive environment that enhances academic pursuits and student success. Institutional core values of the Seminole Creed and Responsible Freedom guide our conduct and inform policy and decisions.
Free Seafood University Civility Statement: Uphold the Garnet & Gold
Respect, Responsibility, Reflect
• Demonstrating respect for ourselves and others
• Taking responsibility for yourself and those around you
• Reflecting the values of Florida State


Fixed it for you.


Had to google reference. Was he benched for that? It happened off campus so he was functionally neither student nor student athlete. I imagine he was disciplined for screaming about pussy because at the time he was on campus and functionally a student. This guy is a winner on and off the field!

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 Post subject: Re: Jameis Winston suspended for a half vs Clemson
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Still Lit wrote:
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Still Lit wrote:
Mission Statement
The Free Seafood University Office of Student Rights and Responsibilities (SRR) mission is to facilitate student learning and development regarding community standards by balancing individual and community rights. SRR supports a safe and inclusive environment that enhances academic pursuits and student success. Institutional core values of the Seminole Creed and Responsible Freedom guide our conduct and inform policy and decisions.
Free Seafood University Civility Statement: Uphold the Garnet & Gold
Respect, Responsibility, Reflect
• Demonstrating respect for ourselves and others
• Taking responsibility for yourself and those around you
• Reflecting the values of Florida State


Fixed it for you.


Had to google reference. Was he benched for that? It happened off campus so he was functionally neither student nor student athlete. I imagine he was disciplined for screaming about pussy because at the time he was on campus and functionally a student. This guy is a winner on and off the field!

I might be wrong, but I think he was suspended from the baseball team for the seafood shoplifting. Not sure about the free soft drink debacle. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Jameis Winston suspended for a half vs Clemson
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:29 pm 
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I'm not trying to stir up shit, but does anyone in this thread understand what a university is? And if you do, in what universe is what he did ok?

Ok, so this took 5 seconds to google:

http://srr.fsu.edu/About-Us/Mission-Statement

Mission Statement
The Florida State University Office of Student Rights and Responsibilities (SRR) mission is to facilitate student learning and development regarding community standards by balancing individual and community rights. SRR supports a safe and inclusive environment that enhances academic pursuits and student success. Institutional core values of the Seminole Creed and Responsible Freedom guide our conduct and inform policy and decisions.
Florida State University Civility Statement: Uphold the Garnet & Gold
Respect, Responsibility, Reflect
• Demonstrating respect for ourselves and others
• Taking responsibility for yourself and those around you
• Reflecting the values of Florida State
The Florida State University is a diverse community with a longstanding tradition of respect for the dignity and worth of each person. We recognize the importance of disagreement and informed debate for a dynamic learning environment, we also expect each member of our community to embrace the values of civility and ethical conduct and share in the responsibility to promote these values. Uphold the Garnet and Gold by demonstrating respect for ourselves and others, taking responsibility for yourself and those around you, and reflecting the values of Florida State

Gees, why oh why I wonder was he disciplined?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

1. It was satire
2. It was in a cafeteria, not the classroom.

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 Post subject: Re: Jameis Winston suspended for a half vs Clemson
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Good!! Either suspend him for a game or don't suspend him. This half-game bullshit it just that...bullshit.


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 Post subject: Re: Jameis Winston suspended for a half vs Clemson
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 Post subject: Re: Jameis Winston suspended for a half vs Clemson
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Still Lit wrote:
I'm not trying to stir up shit, but does anyone in this thread understand what a university is? And if you do, in what universe is what he did ok?

Ok, so this took 5 seconds to google:

http://srr.fsu.edu/About-Us/Mission-Statement

Mission Statement
The Florida State University Office of Student Rights and Responsibilities (SRR) mission is to facilitate student learning and development regarding community standards by balancing individual and community rights. SRR supports a safe and inclusive environment that enhances academic pursuits and student success. Institutional core values of the Seminole Creed and Responsible Freedom guide our conduct and inform policy and decisions.
Florida State University Civility Statement: Uphold the Garnet & Gold
Respect, Responsibility, Reflect
• Demonstrating respect for ourselves and others
• Taking responsibility for yourself and those around you
• Reflecting the values of Florida State
The Florida State University is a diverse community with a longstanding tradition of respect for the dignity and worth of each person. We recognize the importance of disagreement and informed debate for a dynamic learning environment, we also expect each member of our community to embrace the values of civility and ethical conduct and share in the responsibility to promote these values. Uphold the Garnet and Gold by demonstrating respect for ourselves and others, taking responsibility for yourself and those around you, and reflecting the values of Florida State

Gees, why oh why I wonder was he disciplined?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

1. It was satire.
2. It was in a cafeteria, not the classroom.


It was on campus. Look at the mission statement. He's lucky this is all that happened. Defend him all you like.

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 Post subject: Re: Jameis Winston suspended for a half vs Clemson
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I'm not trying to stir up shit, but does anyone in this thread understand what a university is? And if you do, in what universe is what he did ok?


A University is a tax-exempt business that exploits young adults out of hundreds of thousands of dollars for a piece of paper. Meanwhile they are profiting millions of dollars from their high profile student athletes while not paying them or allowing them to work. The University then profits from any item sold with the likeness of the athletes, again without having to pay them a dime. They then can punish these athletes if they accept a free bagel with cream cheese or eat too much free pasta per rules under the NCAA.

What Jameis Winston did was an artistic expression. The "her" in his poetry piece was simply the modern collegiate athlete, while the NCAA was the one fucking him, and "pussy" was referring to the pocketbook.. Now how can you punish the young man for this?

And for the record, that mission statement is nothing but mindless drivel. Do you know what the average college student does in a week? Yelling a popular catch phrase in a student union might rank near the tamest of things.


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I'm not trying to stir up shit, but does anyone in this thread understand what a university is? And if you do, in what universe is what he did ok?


A University is a tax-exempt business that exploits young adults out of hundreds of thousands of dollars for a piece of paper. Meanwhile they are profiting millions of dollars from their high profile student athletes while not paying them or allowing them to work. The University then profits from any item sold with the likeness of the athletes, again without having to pay them a dime. They then can punish these athletes if they accept a free bagel with cream cheese or eat too much free pasta per rules under the NCAA.

What Jameis Winston did was an artistic expression. The "her" in his poetry piece was simply the modern collegiate athlete, while the NCAA was the one fucking him, and "pussy" was referring to the pocketbook.. Now how can you punish the young man for this?


To be fair, they don't proft like that from the other 65,000 kids on campus.

Are you suggesting a different set of rules for everyone?

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To be fair, they don't proft like that from the other 65,000 kids on campus.

Are you suggesting a different set of rules for everyone?


$70,000 tuition for the average student. The kid (what's he, 20 now?) said a bad word on campus. Probably 75% of my professors in college swore in class on occasion. Who gives a shit? And honestly, if Joe Blow did the same thing they probably would have asked him to stop and that would have been the end of it.


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I'm not trying to stir up shit, but does anyone in this thread understand what a university is? And if you do, in what universe is what he did ok?


A University is a tax-exempt business that exploits young adults out of hundreds of thousands of dollars for a piece of paper. Meanwhile they are profiting millions of dollars from their high profile student athletes while not paying them or allowing them to work. The University then profits from any item sold with the likeness of the athletes, again without having to pay them a dime. They then can punish these athletes if they accept a free bagel with cream cheese or eat too much free pasta per rules under the NCAA.

What Jameis Winston did was an artistic expression. The "her" in his poetry piece was simply the modern collegiate athlete, while the NCAA was the one fucking him, and "pussy" was referring to the pocketbook.. Now how can you punish the young man for this?

And for the record, that mission statement is nothing but mindless drivel. Do you know what the average college student does in a week? Yelling a popular catch phrase in a student union might rank near the tamest of things.


Perch, neither you nor B2B are saying or thinking stupid things. I'm sympathetic. The mission statement is vague. I concede all of it. But you see why he was disciplined. Any student would have been, including joe blow. Joe blow isn't famous and so media doesn't report on it. And for the record, trust me, I am very intimate with of the mind and habits of the avg college student. I offered an explanation of why the Uni disciplined. It would have been shocking had he not. Universities want to maintain a certain culture and he clearly violated that. Defend Jameis all you like. I won't. The amount of drinking and sexual assault on campuses is mind boggling. Those caught are dealt with appropriately if nobodies. Sometimes not due to bad publicity it would cause. Sometimes if it's a high profile athlete the Uni tries to sweep it under the rug. Disgusting. I've seen it happen. Just because terrible behavior is not punished because not caught doesn't mean what Jameis did was appropriate or ok on a university campus. Even if the Uni is hypocritical for failing to punish other stuff.

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Agreed, I do shit like that all the time, I yell way worse shit while watching a Steelers game with the back door open so the neighbors hear it, I a usually drunk, havin consumed at least 8-10 beers at the time. I am sick of FUCKING DUMBASS "OUTRAGE" USA... every little fucking thing, the PUSSIES of America fly into an OUTRAGE MODE, glad I'm getting old and lived most of my life before it's come to the current PUSSIFIED world.


Here's the thing. Nobody gives a fuck if you live or die. You don't represent shit except a minority percentage of the overbearing part of the middle class. You could end up on a milk carton tomorrow and the only ones that would give a shit live within the confines of your 4 walls.

JW is a cash cow. He plays by a totally different set of rules than your irrelevant self


So what did he do that was so bad, he cursed! OMG! This is why I HATE the modern USA! A guy curses, doesn't commit a crime, doesn't do drugs, doesn't hit a precious woman, doesn't drive drunk, he say's a couple BAD WORDS-whoop-de-doo, so THAT ALONE is enough to ruin his future earnings potential? Give me a break, and FCK any country that thinks like this! God Bless Europe- a place where they'd laugh this off as a non-issue! A place where they LAUGH AT U.S. culture, deservedly so!


So renounce your citizenship and move to Europe.

I also find it interesting that every disciplinary action in sports is an indictment on global society.


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